Well it's definitely in the middle of nowhere!! I went on a Friday and absolutely nobody was there…read more I was told to drive back past the downed willow tree where it says clothing optional past this point! However you have to walk across the creek to actually get to that side. Once you get there all the paths are covered in weeds and there really isn't many places to go. I walked down what appears to be the main trail abs found a sign that something about a sexual circle but it was about 100 sq feet of weeds, walked further and just a cliff on one side leading to a creek and a big hill to climb, once you climb the hill it's you will see just a bunch of trees and weeds up to your knees. Looked like no one ever goes there anymore. However it was kinda nice walking around naked and it's possible there is more there that I just didn't see in my hour long walk. Plus side I got in for free and only like 5 or 10 dollars to go.