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    Olde English Outfitters - 50 yard indoor range with 3D targets.

    Olde English Outfitters

    4.3(31 reviews)
    79.7 mi
    $$

    My bow was in need of replacement, so I stopped in to purchase a high end primary and quality…read morebackup crossbow. I'd been using the same bow for years and really wasn't up to speed on what the different manufacturers were offering. Needless to say, I had some questions and wanted to try out a couple models to see how they felt and handled before dropping $3,000+. Hands down, this was the most unfriendly, uptight, and uncomfortable shopping experience I've ever had in my life. I'd called two days prior to see when their range would be less busy and to ensure I could shoot some bows. No problem, is what I was told. I arrived as planned, a couple of shooters were sighting in on the archery range, no customers were in the bow shop, and a heavy set old guy and young man were working the archery counter. I perused the bows for 20 minutes listening to the old guy bitching about something and without being greeted, so I approach the counter where the old guy is sitting on a stool, clearly not wanting to get up or be bothered. I asked for some assistance with crossbows. The old guy pointed toward them, I walk over to them, and the young guy approached and admitted he knows little about them. I'm told they do not allow customers to try out bows (contrary to what they told me on the phone to get me into the store). I discussed what I was told on the phone and the young guy nervously approached the old guy and talked to him about it. You could tell the young guy was on eggshells dealing with the old guy. I asked a question about the specs of two Mission bows, and the old guy tossed a Mission brochure on the counter and told me the exact specs are in it. Reluctantly, the young guy takes me onto the range to test 3 bows, two costing over $2k and one costing $1k. I took a few shots with each and the old guy entered the range, rudely interjected (in front of the others on the range), and said, "Have you decided...we don't want these bows shot?" I was both shocked and embarrassed in front of the other customers for being treated like I was doing something wrong, the young man was obviously uncomfortable as well, and I had a loaded crossbow on the table. The young guy, watching the old guy walk away, cautiously told me to shoot it, made a comment about the old guy's crappy demeanor, then promptly put up the bow and went back behind the counter where I was Ignored and treated dismissively for another 10 minutes. I was told bows are like guns, they all do basically the same thing, just hold one and decide. I have thick skin, but this is absolutely not the way you should treat a customer. I'm not sure if it is because they thought I couldn't afford a bow, because of my skin color, or if they just treat everyone this bad, but I won't ever step foot in Olde English again. In addition to being treated poorly, most everything was overpriced in the store. I didn't mind paying more for the bows because I thought there was value in being able to test them and in getting info from their staff (BOY WAS I WRONG). So if you want poor service, pompous, dismissive, unfriendly staff, and high prices, visit their archery counter. I went elsewhere, bought the same bows for $350 ish less, and got a free arrow and broadhead package.

    We needed some ammo for a sporting afternoon that we planned and given the great ratings we stopped…read moreby. They were great! They knew about each firearm we had and gave us direction as to the right shells for what we were doing. They also had targets and clay pigeons that we bought. The gun, rifle, pistol and knife selection were huge. Oh, if you're looking for bow and arrow equipment or advice this is your place for that too. It gets a strong recommendation from me!

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    Vance Outdoors

    Vance Outdoors

    4.2(6 reviews)
    54.4 mi

    Very helpful sales people from the front door and throughout the store . Products were reasonably…read morepriced . Great deals . Great service.

    Ordered a Suppressor*******(That was complete with factory thread adapter in a sealed product that…read morevoids the warranty if removed according to the manufacturer)***** and did all of my paperwork etc last Saturday. I got my approval a few days later, so I stopped into the shop to pick it up on 9-11 at 4pm. Waited until 430pm until I was actually helped. Salesman I believe his name is Scott helped me. He took my ID and proceeded to get my item. He returns with my item that was in a ripped-up box sleeve that wasn't like that prior to doing my paperwork. We start the transfer paperwork and open the box. ************Someone did the switcharoo on my FFL item that was registered to me per the ATF. This suppressor had a different serial number and was in my box that had the correct serial number. Salesman proceeds to go look for the item and thought it was in the other box which it was not. Thirty minutes pass and we locate my Suppressor which was in the display case. Upon handing me my item I noticed it was missing something(Thread adapter). I inform the sales guy and we compare the one that wasn't mine to mine. It was factory condition and had the factory adapter. The salesman mentioned that in the past two employees got fired for giving two different customers wrong FFL items. Salesman goes and shows is manager while I am waiting, I hear a metal clang in the back room. Then a few minutes later the manager at the gun counter I think his name is Rick(tall young guy, with long hair) comes out holding the one that wasn't mine and mine. He claimed that they were the exact same and mine was as it was from the factory. I disagreed and had him pull a fresh one from the case (Factory condition with factory thread adapter in it). I told him that's how mine was supposed to be and it wasn't. After some arguing he said that he would include a free adapter with it. *******(Someone in your gun department without my knowledge disassembled my paid for product which is a breach of contract)****** I was reluctant to take the offer and the sales manager pressured me into it saying it was already assigned to me and I had to take it. I told him we could just cancel it and he could refund my money. The salesman mentioned that in the past two employees got fired for giving two different customers wrong FFL items. He assured me that the item was not missing anything, so I took it home. I return the next morning with my item because I was unsure that if it was compromised or not and wanted to just return it. I read on the manufacturer's website that if any suppressor has any alterations, they will not warranty it. An aftermarket thread adapter inside a sealed suppressor that the manufacturer says per the manual owner is not to remove any part of the product for any type of cleaning. I arrived at 9am and asked for the manager, which did not disclose his name, and he came out heated as at first. I explained the whole situation to him, and he proceeds to try to tell me that it is factory and that they are all like that. He pulls three out of the case and shows me.(They are all three missing the thread adapters. These employees are illegally modifying suppressors and selling them to people by removing the thread adapter) I had him pull one from the bottom shelf and guess what it had the factory thread adapter which mine was missing. I told him that I do not feel comfortable even attempting to shoot a gun with my product because it could cause bodily harm if it is missing anything else. We had a heated argument, and he acted like I didn't know anything about suppressors. He pulls a completely different suppressor out and tells me mine and that one is different. I know that because his is a different caliber and model than mine. We argue again, because I told him I want my money back or would even accept store credit. He said no because I took the item last night which was like 15 hours prior under the assumption I had to per the previous management. We argue some more and he retrieves my item and paperwork from the back where he took them to. I show him the owner's manual stating the warranty will be voided per and modifying of the product. He disagreed and said it wasn't for my suppressor, so I scrolled up and showed him my model. He pushes my stuff to me and aggressively says "You have to take it up with corporate". I apologized to him for the issue and expressed my concerns. Told him I know it's not his fault but someone there did something to my product.

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