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    Robin Patin, CFP, CPWA

    4.3 (10 reviews)
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    Bell Investment Advisors - The Women's Roundtable

    Bell Investment Advisors

    (3 reviews)

    Yes. Bell Investment Advisors have helped up tremendously in preparing for retirement. We…read moreappreciate Tiffany helping us with college funding for our two daughters. They have now graduated and working and Tiffany even provides great advice to them as they begin saving and investing.

    The Bell Team is indeed nice, contributing to the community, to music, theater, sports. They are…read morenot as great in their results for your investments. Their "active" investment strategy, the "momentum method," has fallen behind the S&P 500 for at least the past 10 years. Their claim to have beaten the S&P 500 over time is true only for investors who have been with Bell since the time BEFORE the momentum method. In other words, if you had instead been "passively" investing by choosing S&P-like funds (which isn't always easy), you would have done much better. What is "much better"? Well, in 2011, for instance, the S&P 500 had the same value at the end of the year as at the beginning, it gained and lost nothing. A typical Bell account lost at least 10%. Which means that your $1,000,000 portfolio lost $100,000 in 2011, while you friend, passively following the S&P 500, still has his $1,000,000. Why are they not more successful? The momentum method, which is based on data suggesting that up (and down) movements of the market have a certain inertia, they keep going up (or down) for a while. This is a fact one might be able to take advantage of. Bell hasn't been able to. The reason: they have no reliable method to get on the bandwagon in time, and they've left the bandwagon too late too often. These mistakes will not show long in your portfolio because those losers will eventually have been sold and disappeared from your eyes. What stays in your portfolio is, like the grin of the Cheshire Cat, the loss relative to a standard index like the S&P 500. If you are considering Bell as your advisors, ask them in detail (year by year, not annualized over 15 years!) about their performance relative to a certain standard. For instance for 2013. It was a great year for many indexes, Bell did o.k. for me too, but if I had had the patience to go with "passive investment," I would have doubled my gains. Why am I still with them? Lazy. Most people have financial advisors, because they don't want to bother (or can't be) managing their portfolio themselves. In addition, only a minority of money managers - rumor has it at 30% - actually beat the indexes, such as the S&P 500. Bell is safely in the majority.

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    I love The Bach Group and appreciate their flexibility in working with my peculiarities as a…read moreclient. Having been inspired by a best selling book authored by a Bach Family member called, "Smart Women Finish Rich", I was motivated to work with the Bach group professionally. They are fastidious in keeping me notified and updated, I'm able to wire money internationally nearly effortlessly in addition to keeping my unique portfolio stable, producing income and growing.

    I contacted Pam Burk of The Bach Group by phone - upon the recommendation of a friend who has her…read moremoney invested with them. Pam asked me a few questions and asked me to come in to the Orinda, CA office for a free consult. I was instructed to bring tons of financial info. When We had our face to face meeting, she reviewed my documents and was as nice as can be. She said she would review the material and get back to me. I was contacted by phone a few days later and told that my investments were not what they wanted to handle. I asked her why not? I also asked her if I needed a minimum amount of $$ to be a client. At First she said it was because of where I had my money invested in - as the reason for their refusal to take me on as a client. After a few more inquiries, Pam Burk said that Yes, indeed I fell short of the 1/2 a million dollars ($500,000) needed in order to retain the Bach Group as an investment advisor (for a fee of 1% of my portfolio annually). If she had only made that info clear in the initial phone call and or at the meeting, that would have saved me a lot of personal time and effort getting to the office and getting all my financial material ready for her. So, in summation, if you do not have at lease 1/2 a million dollars to invest , stay clear of these folks. I was not happy with their business practice at all!!!

    Robin Patin, CFP, CPWA - financialadvising - Updated July 2026

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