I just had my first visit with Angelica last week and I walked out of the office with a huge smile on my face. She was so wonderful and addressed my concerns with such a warm and professional manner. Tamar joined us and was equally as wonderful. The wait time was minimal and everyone in the office was extremely efficient and friendly. I have already scheduled my next visit!!! Thank you everyone at Ava MD!!! read more

I had almost completed two packages of the LipLase treatment with Monica Masterson, NP when during my last session, she unexpectedly turned to me and said: "So my understanding is that even though you have smaller lips, you still don't want something more intensive like filler?" I was in shock. My full, ample, voluptuous lips are one of those features I always treasured and cherished receiving admiration for. I was so surprised to hear someone could actually find them to be small, my mind did briefly go to "OMG, DO I need filler?" and I started asking her all about filler. Of course, then I remembered they're a business and that's exactly what they wanted--or else they would NEVER make a comment that's so far from the gorgeous reality that is me. She then made it worse by talking about how she doesn't care about money and never pushes fillers on people--which of course made me wonder, is she saying it because it's *true* then?? After several therapy sessions, I am happy to say I am back to the level of confidence I had before this comment was made--so now that I'm stronger, I'm speaking up for myself. It was so startling and frightening to go in for what I thought would be a normal, caring, professional treatment and instead receive criticism of my body, completely out of the blue, not asked for, and non-consensual. It felt like a real violation of patient boundaries. I was here to receive a service, not an evaluation of my looks. This is a recent photo of me, BTW--taken months before I received their services at all. I am absolutely gorgeous just the way I am. As I am a model and adult star, I sometimes undergo non-invasive treatments to look even better, but that does not entitle anyone to invade my personal space and make unwanted comments about my body. If *I* somehow have "smaller lips," how many women have any hope of having normal lips?!? Businesses like this need to understand that, yes, in a way, they are profiting off people's insecurities--but if they *encourage* those very insecurities, it will backfire and they will lose business. People come here to gain confidence, not lose it. And customers, please know: No matter how much self-hatred businesses try to instill in you, love is so much greater than hate and as long as you have self-love, that will prevail. You can always choose self-love. They can never really hurt you. read more

Ava MD - Dermatologists Near Me - Santa Monica, California

was highly recommended to Dr. Ava Shamban by Dr. John Joseph one of my best doctors who recently retired. Dr. Joseph was an amazing doctor and researcher for decades with vast knowledge and expertise including being amazing with things like Sculptra and all the injectable rejuvenation products, Obviously Dr. Ava must be great if he recommended her however my experience in trying to see Dr. Shamban was a huge disappointment. The receptionist informed me that Dr. Ava charges a $500 consultation fee before she will even see you.This I believe is the height of arrogance and believing your own press. After years of having been a patient of some of the best in the business, this was the first time I ever heard of this kind of outrageous fee not to mention when I asked about pricing Dr. Shamban for is way above fair pricing coming in at $1550 for one vial of Sculptra. Ok people will say if you are going to the best then of course you are going to pay a premium however many people who are doing well in CA, Los Angeles ,and want to go to good Doctors are not millionaires with vast sums of disposable income, so premium is on thing , making your practice only for 1 percenters is another. I recommend Dr. Rebecca Fitzgerald in Larchmont Village , she has a much bigger reputation throughout the industry as one of the best and she still hasn't decided that she is soooo great that she will gouge you for $500 to feed her ego and her bank account. That said I was really looking forward to going to Dr. Shamban because I live on the westside and getting over to Larchmont isn't always convenient, however after the first bad impression from Dr. Ava Shamban's office the extra drive will be well worth it read more

Taya first began treating my face when I was in my mid-20s, and over the years she provided consistent, thoughtful care as my face naturally changed. What always set her apart was that she never chased trends or pushed the "latest thing." Instead, she approached my face with a long-term, individualized treatment plan grounded in science, tissue behavior, and restraint. Her work was never about fads it was about my face. She does not over-treat, does not chase volume, and does not "do more" simply because she can. That protective approach is something she clearly takes pride in, and for good reason. In my late 30s, trying to save money, I made the mistake of going to a cheaper med spa that did not share this level of knowledge. They followed trends, overtreated, and failed to understand tissue integrity. Unfortunately, my face became severely disfigured. I became reclusive. I stopped going out. It affected my personal life, my family life, my professional confidence, and my ability to even look at myself in the mirror. I sought help everywhere. Multiple med spas refused to treat me. No one wanted their name associated with such a difficult case. Even a well-known physician who specializes in corrective work told me it was the worst filler situation he had ever seen. Eventually, I returned to Taya fully expecting to be turned away. Instead, she approached my case with honesty, compassion, and ethical clarity. She was upfront that without surgery, my face could never be restored 100%. She did not make promises she couldn't keep. She did not upsell. She did not exploit my vulnerability. She was protective not only of my outcome, but of my tissue, my finances, and my long-term well-being. What she did do was work carefully, conservatively, and skillfully to give me something I never thought I'd have again: recognition of myself. I can look in the mirror again. I recognize my face. Friends have asked if this means I'll finally start going out again, networking again, living again, and the answer is yes. That alone speaks volumes. Taya practices with restraint, integrity, and deep scientific understanding. She protects her patients rather than chasing trends or profit, and she treats faces as living tissue not as a canvas for whatever is popular that year. I cried that day, because for the first time in years, I saw me again. For that, I will forever be grateful. If you are considering aesthetic treatment, especially if you are young and tempted by cheaper, trend-driven options please hear this as a warning and a testament: faces are not trends, and tissue remembers everything. Skill, ethics, and science matter. Taya is exceptional. Ava Md is fortunate to have her. read more

I love my visits to Ava MD. I have been coming here to have skin treatments for decades. I would never go anywhere else. The atmosphere is warm and friendly and most importantly professional. My skin has been kept beautiful through the years under the care of Christine and Dr. Ava. I have had skin cancers in my late 20's and have been cancer free under the care and treatments I have received here. I cannot say enough about how grateful I am to have found Ava MD. Kate B read more

I have no complaints about the doctor or the nurses or the receptionists. I am always treated well and Dr. Simzar does excellent Mohs surgery. What bothers me is this: after the surgery has been performed on the skin, patients are required to dress their own wounds at home. Ava MD has no affiliation with home wound nurse facilities. I have gotten three infections as a result of having to dress my own wound. It's ridiculous for a surgeon to expect a patient to dress a wound competently. read more

Angelica did an unbelievable job giving me a treatment to remove pre-cancerous cells. It's a great office.

I had my first visit with Angelica at AVA MD yesterday and just received a follow up phone call to see how I was doing. Had some skin issues that concerned me and didn't know what to expect as I'd never visited a dermatologist before. Wow, was I impressed. The entire staff was welcoming and friendly. Angelica and her team (Sienna and Maddie) were really fantastic. Super knowledgeable. Every step was explained in terms that I could easily understand, my comfort was checked on repeatedly and any reservations I may have had about the process were promptly dispelled. I couldn't give them a higher recommendation. I'm actually looking forward to my follow up appointment. read more

I rarely write reviews but I compelled to write about my experience at Ava MD. The last few months have been life changing for me as I have had to relocate due to the Palisade's fire. So naturally I have been feeling of my comfort zone for the last 5 months. But coming into the office felt like a warm hug that I have not experienced in a long time at a doctor's office. The front desk, especially Heidi, was extremely efficient, warm and knowledgeable and I could tell that she takes pride in giving all of her patients her time and a listening ear. I got a facial by Tanya. She made me feel new and rejuvenated! Definitely will be going back, no matter where I live. read more

DO NOT! They misdiagnosed my skin cancer and assured me it was just a little red mark they could zap away with lasers and micro needling. After thousands of dollars spent the red mark was still there so I went to a renowned dermatologist who instantly knew it was skin cancer. SHAME ON THIS OFFICE!!!!! read more

My skin journey began with my mom taking me to every single doctor. Nothing worked until I met @MOJGANMOR of @DrAvaSays I started seeing Mojan once a month (maybe more) and with her help of facials, lasers, and nutrition my skin slowly started to heal. I started drinking a green juice every morning before breakfast and sticking to her skin regimen for my skin . My acne journey has been a long one to say the least. In my early 20s I endured so much stress and hormonal changes that all of a sudden I had some serious cystic adult acne. It wasn't just all over my face but also my body. I was completely miserable. I would barely go out & embarrassed & would cry all the time . I am so so so grateful for my skin journey, still seeing my favorite esthetician Mojan, and sticking to a skin routine so it doesn't happen again. HIGHLY REC!! read more

Ava MD - Before and after - Dermatologists Near Me - Santa Monica, California

This place and so called "doctor" misdiagnosed my boyfriend to sell him on a laser treatment, which costed over $1,500.They told him a spot on his skin was just a scar, but after the "treatment" did nothing to help, he sought a real doctor who diagnosed him with skin cancer. Had this place given him a real diagnosis, rather than trying to sell him on an expensive and useless treatment, he would have caught his skin cancer earlier. After finding out he in fact had skin cancer, he called this place to inform them of their misdiagnosis and they didn't even offer him a reimbursement or any sort of compensation. read more

I would never recommend this physician to anyone that I care about. My wife was advised by one of the top physicians in California that a biopsy should have taken place many years ago. My wife spent several hours at UCLA undergoing a Mohs procedure with plastic surgeon as the basal cell was on her face We are not alone. Another woman and friend told us a recent similar story There are plenty of competent physicians that patients should Consult with. Obtaining another opinion is highly recommended read more

Love getting facials here. Tanya is amazing! Very clean place and everyone is very friendly.

Dr Ava is professional, caring and the best filler injector in town! She can take years off your face with the flick of a wrist!

Spoke to Marie who is the office manager to look into a $250 no show fee for an unconfirmed appointment. Well, I tried to speak to Marie but she was not open to my concerns. After hearing her out and learning that the office can possibly NOT make a mistake I attempted to express my thought... Marie just yelled and said have a nice day and hung up. I don't know why I'm so emotional today but she left me in tears. I have been going to Ava MD since 2015. Such a shame that the person in charge of billing has such nasty behavior. I like to surround myself and spend my money where I'm treated with respect. Zero value for me at the Santa Monica location. My concern is what if this happens again? I was just charged this month for August - 2019. On my last visit to the Santa Monica office was a week after the no show fee. You would think they would charge me at the visit or at least mention the fee. Mistakes happen and maybe the lady who checked me out that day was unaware but I never got a notice of this no show for an unconfirmed appointment so Marie sent my unconfirmed no show appointment fee straight to collections. Moral of the story - spend your hard earned dollars where you are valued as a customer. read more

I have been coming here for 10 years and I cannot say enough wonderful things about this place. Everyone is so nice and professional. I've seen multiple people in the office for different treatments and they are all amazing! read more

I have been going here since 2007/2008 when I developed terrible acne as a 18yr old. I am now 32 and still go to Ava MD. I am just getting back into treatments with the very wonderful, sweet, and talented Mojan! I have to share my skin transformation with you all! I recently have been going through some serious health issues. Issues that keep me from eating, and my skin has taken a hit because of this. The pictures are just one week apart. I'll be back in November to continue rehabbing my skin. I love Ava MD! read more

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The providers here are good; but the front of office and supporting staff are incompetent and rude, after several years as a patient I'm done. Here is what I have experienced: 1. I received a voicemail saying they're switching to an annual fee for all patients. It's $300. Ok so they're moving to a more concierge practice approach I get it. However they don't provide concierge level service from my experience. I am moving this summer because my partner is in the military. I called to see if they'd allow me to do a half year fee of $150, since I know I won't be here for a full year. When I explained that I'll be moving this summer and the annual feel didn't make sense for me I didn't even have the opportunity to ask if I could pay half. The person on the phone said they'll cancel my future appointments and hung up me on. Wow. I was also going to order some more product that I have run out out... so they just lost product sale and a half annual fee and future business. Coming from a family of entrepreneurs, I empathize with small business owners tremendously... but also know the importance of every sale. Three sales were lost in this one action by front of office staff. 2. Speaking of ordering those products... they say you can order products over the phone and have them shipped to you but they aren't set up to follow through. Every time I have done this (half to a dozen times) either they have ...not shopped the items I purchased and I had to call multiple times to have them ship what I paid for. Or they sent the wrong item or left items out. Or all of the above! Don't offer this service if you after staffed or willing to support it. 3. General rudeness. I might be more working class class and gender non conforming than their other clientele -- or maybe this is how they treat everyone -- but with the except of one older woman who typically worked the product area the front of office staff was consistently rude, difficult, and treated me like a nuisance for ...anything. Calling. Arriving for an appt. Etc. 4. Don't be late at all ever or be prepared for intense passive aggression. Once I showed up about 10-15 minutes late (unfortunate I agree) for an appointment. My understanding is it was just a following up check in a mole to see if it had changed. Not something that takes long. I thought it would be ok or they would ask me to reschedule. When I arrived the front desk was very put out and told me it was a big problem that I was late (I had apologized the minute I walked in and said my name and appt time), to the point I felt like I should leave. I asked if I should leave and is reschedule. She said no and go sit down. Then a nurse takes me back to a room. Continuing to lecture me about my tardiness. Gets me into a room - where I'm now supposed to feel comfortable getting undressed - and continues going on about how she doesn't even know if the doctor will be able to see me to which I say ok well should I leave or get undressed? She says it's up to me... to which I say it isn't really this is your office, your room, you are in the position of power and control and making me extremely uncomfortable. If you don't want me to be here and want me to reschedule I have already offered to do that, but please stop with whatever this is. She tells me to get undressed and leaves. At this point I am in tears I'm so frustrated and confused about why I'm being treated this way. My doctor comes in asks me why I'm there (yea seriously) I said I don't even know I'm here as a follow up they asked me to schedule I assume for my moles. They take a look. All is fine. I leave. Appointment ends on time. I'm sure Dr. Ava herself is lovely. The dermatologists, nurse practitioners, aestheticians etc I have encountered were all wonderful but the front of office and supporting staff are incredibly rude and coupled with their incompetence I'm not sure where they get the feeling they can treat people that way. So for $300 a year on top of what you pay for visits, services, and products... I recommend looking elsewhere. read more

Dr AVaMd office is the best. I go every month for the last 20 years to my Mojgan. She keeps me looking young as I get older. It's quite the task. She's an expert at what lasers to use,what peels to do and when you do it and so much more. She does it all and then some. I have sent my children to her and she cleared up their acne. This women is a god send. I am so lucky to have her in my life and recommend her and the AVaMd office. Book her now she is rockstar busy it might take a month to get in but she is worth the wait read more

Ava MD - Dermatologists Near Me - Santa Monica, California

Ava MD is THE place to go if you want quality care and impeccable service. Kim and Angelica are so kind and welcoming reaching beyond the call of duty being Covid cautious and absolutely thorough with all of my dermatological needs. Friendly doesn't even begin to describe the staff who always make you feel welcome. The office is sleek, clean and modern and I love that they have a full time specialist to assist you with any products that you might need to purchase. Robin is the go to girl for all things laser. Just one of her many talents as she confidently waves her magic wand and one feels instantly rejuvenated. Rumor has it that she is the person who all of the doctors go to themselves to for fillers, injections and laser work. That's a powerful endorsement in my book. read more

I used to go to this provider and referred quite a lot of people- I stopped seeing Ava however, for a couple reasons, the filler she was injecting in my cheek became over done, and it looked like I had gained weight. In addition, every single time I would go to her nurse would come in the room and have an awkward conversation saying their prices went up, literally at every single appointment, often these appointments were close together- meaning they were going against their already quoted prices and making them up as they went every single time I went in (mind you she is already incredibly expensive)- After already being an established patient, they would cite a price increase from the manufacturer of product however, I work in the industry and knew this was false, but never said this directly to their face. She also took at least an hour after your appointment time to see you and the most I waited two hours should have walked out. She also has this arrogance about her. It comes across like she thinks she's a celebrity herself, which shouldn't be the case even if she was. read more

I have finally found an esthetician that can deliver!! Rita is a miracle worker. I have suffered with acne and acne scars since I was a teenager. I have gone to dermatologist after dermatologist. I have spent literally thousands on anything that promised results. Well Rita was the best investment I ever made. She has magic hands!! My face is now almost flawless. No breakouts. Scarring has almost vanished. I never thought my skin could be so pretty. I get compliments all the time now. If you are looking for someone who knows what they are doing. Make an appt with Rita. She is warm and welcoming. I'm always excited to sit in her chair. You leave there feeling beautiful and amazing. She's THE BEST!!! read more

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Despicable!!! Please be warned, this business operates with zero customer service and fraudulent billing practices. The first time I went to this business I was informed my insurance was in network and my visit would be covered. I went in for a dry skin patch that was bothering me. The nurse was great, gave me a prescription for a steroid and I was done. They booked me for a follow up appointment so they could check the patch post treatment. When I left that day I was charged for my visit. This charge was far higher than I anticipated given that I have insurance. After a few days the patch cleared, I called to cancel my follow up appointment because I didn't want to needlessly pay another expensive office visit fee to hear that everything was ok. Fast forward, after repeated bills to my home for a late fee, I followed up after each one with a call to dispute this charge. Eventually they told me the charge was removed. Then I receive notice that the amount was sent to collections. I have called this office so many times. Never once did a manager speak to me or return my call. This business practice is inexcusable, unprofessional and criminal. I have spoken to other people in my network who had similar experiences. The fact that they can not even have the courtesy to address the matter or their negligent communication is terrible. In a city with so many lovely businesses and great dermatologists I would say find another one! I have been going to Rappaport dermatology in Beverly Hills and they are amazing. Shame on Ava and her office! read more

Taya Pavlenko is the Best . I am with her almost 6 year. She is nice , friendly, beautiful woman and she knows wwhat she is doing for sure. read more

Ava MD - For beautiful person in Ava T. Pavlenko - Dermatologists Near Me - Santa Monica, California

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Great visit to the dermatologist today. I've been going there for a couple of decades and have never been disappointed with their care. I highly recommend them. I have that pale blonde Irish skin. If it weren't for Ava and her staff, especially people like Angelica, I would have no skin left. Thank you again for the care and the treatment. read more

They told me my insurance wouldn't cover the procedure, so I paid out of pocket. Nearly two years later I suddenly get a bill for a $30 copay. Did they get a payout from insurance, too? Seems they owe me money and not the other way around. Super shady double dipping. read more

I've seen Robin (PA) for many years . She's truly an artist . She provides such great results all the time . This is the best office to go , ask for Robin !!! read more

I had a pleasant experience doing a Cosmelan with Aileen in 2021. I tried to come for another treatment, a facial. I scheduled an appointment and I canceled 48 hours before due to a conflict. I canceled. They can check the phone records. I spoke to the lady and told her I was having Botox somewhere else and therefore could not have a facial. They said ok. Then I got angry calls on the date of the appointment and again I explained that I had canceled. I even emailed Aileen. There was obviously a mishap but it was not my fault, I canceled more than 24 hours in advance. It was 48 hours. Fast forward 6 months and I'm still getting $250 no-show bills. I've called multiple times. I called (800)660-4884 ext 311 to speak with Christina. And I will do so again. She was very friendly but obviously did not solve the problem. I've sent in notes with a bill to cancel this charge. Anything for them to cancel this charge. Nothing. I get the same bill over and over. I wanted to go back to Ava MD. I liked Aileen. I wanted to do another Cosmelan and start getting facials there. But this is insanity. And I see other reviews mentioning the same thing. I work in medical and I can tell you that you do not want to go to an office that doesn't have their billing in order. It's a nightmare. Terrible customer service, an ongoing headache. Not worth coming here. There are so many good places on the westside. read more

I went in last week for a consult for a laser treatment . Upon arrival a receptionist seems put out by my arrival and thaws a little when I tell her I have an appointment. I'm seen by Karen RN who is knowledgeable and professional and we agree upon procedure and pricing. I'm told that I'll be receiving a call next week (Monday or Tuesday) to start on a medication prior to laser treatment that they just need a doctor to prescribe it. On Wednesday since I don't receive a call I call the office to follow up and am told I should hear back in a few hours. I then get a call telling me I have an in-person appointment with a doctor in 30 min. This is news to me. I'm told that the doctor has to see me to write prescription, and that it'll take a few minutes and doctor consult will cost $200. I tell receptionist this is not what Karen told me and she tells me that I probably misunderstood her and forgot I had an appointment. I'm also told that I've been sent reminders of said appointment (I swear I haven't). She continues to tell me I must have had a memory lapse (I'm 41 yo btw) and I tell her I want to cancel procedure. 30 minutes later someone from the office calls to tell me that my medication will be ready to pick up at their affiliated pharmacy and if they can go ahead and charge my credit card. I tell them prior conversation and they pass me along to someone else that tells me they suddenly were able to find a provider to sign off on medication without needing to see me. So basically they would have needlessly charged me $200 for no reason. I canceled procedure because I couldn't trust that in the future they wouldn't try to tack on another fee. I feel like they prey on people's desperation to squeeze money out of them rather than try to build a relationship with them that would be financially beneficial to their business in the long run. Also some of the front of house staff members are unnecessarily condescending, it's like relax we're just here to spend money to get better skin. read more

Ava and her office are true professionals both for the cosmetic side and are an amazing resource for your serious medical dermatology needs as well. I've trusted them not only for myself for over 15 years, but also for my son and husband. read more

Do NOT go here. The visit was a terrible experience, the doctor was too busy to see me, a new patient, and the PA missed my basal cell carcinoma. The follow up has been terrible since then and all they do is send me marketing emails. I read good reviews so made an appointment to go for an annual mole check. A physician's assistant came in and I asked if I was going to see Dr. Shamban. She said that the doctor is way too busy to see every new patient because she is "famous". She then proceeded to rush me through the appointment. It was 15 minutes long. I was worried about a mole on my leg so she recommended that I freeze it off and we did that. But I had a much larger spot on my lower abdomen and she said not to worry. It didn't look like anything to her. Cut to 5 months later and the spot on my abdomen seemed a little bigger and darker. I decided to go to a different dermatologist to get a second opinion. She did a skin biopsy and it came back as basal cell carcinoma. Thank goodness I had an instinct to see someone else. In the meantime, the spot on my leg that had been frozen didn't go away. I called Dr. Shamban's office to mention this and they said that the PA forgot to tell me that I had to come back for a second visit to get it entirely removed. I had already been billed $130 for the first procedure and I was annoyed that the PA didn't tell me it would be as two step procedure. I called Dr. Shamban's office a couple of weeks ago to tell them about the basal cell carcinoma and the woman I spoke with, Joanna, was very nice and assured me that I would be hearing from Dr. Shamban directly to discuss my experience. That has not happened. No one has called me. Having your PA do a mole check and dismiss a large dark spot that turns out to be skin cancer is carelessness in the extreme. If you are too busy to see new patients, you should ensure you hire PAs who are better at their jobs. Then to not care enough to reach out to your patient after finding out this happened reflects an attitude of total disregard for human beings. I am completely shocked and appalled by how I've been treated by this practice and you should be too. read more

This dermatologist's office was first class all the way. they were helpful, friendly, smart and made me feel at ease. i went there on the recommendation of you other yelpers so thanks so much for the hook up. sherri read more

Great experience! Fast, efficient quality care. I saw Dr Van Dyke and he was amazing. The team works in sync and the office is beautiful. Highly recommend! read more

I have a chronic condition that brings me a lot of anxiety due to having horrible past procedures. Angelica is so kind, hilarious, and a real humanitarian that cares about the well-being of her patients emotionally and physically. I couldn't have asked for a better experience with her. All of the staff at Ava MD are so awesome and make it apparent that they care about their patients' needs. read more

Amazing they have everything you need under one roof! Filler, Botox, laser all of it! Beautiful office and lovely staff

Made several calls to find out about their participating in clinical trials that they send out emails for and they never EVER call back. I have even emailed them photos and information as they suggest in their blast email, and they don't even have the courtesy to ever respond back. I can understand that they can't respond back to everyone, however, I have made numerous attempts, sometimes just to find out more details about their studies. When I call and leave a message for the study coordinator they just take a message and say someone will call you back. And it has never happened. Because of this, I would never want to become a patient of this office. read more

The best facial in LA! Tanya has been my go-to for more than a year. She is incredibly bright, caring and so good at her job. I always leave the office and start counting down the days till my next appointment! read more

I cannot say enough positive things about AVA MD. This is the quality you want when seeking out skin care and well-being treatments. I have been going here for years on and off and have never had a bad experience. The team is excellent! Kind, knowledgeable, courteous and most importantly, GREAT at their jobs. It is obvious the passion and devotion the team has to their patients. Thank you! read more

I come here for facials and they are simply amazing. My esthetician of choice is Tanya- she's super diligent, professional, and really gets the job done. I've tried many other places and nothing compares to the effectiveness and price of the facials here. Also, love that they don't try to sell you a million different products. Other esthetician's have pressured me into buying so many products o later regret, so it's nice to know the option is there if I want it but it's not beeping forced. read more