[[HIGHLIGHT]]Beautiful covered outdoor patio tasting experience![[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] Relaxed, unpretentious and fair prices for both tasting, food and retail wines. Just the right amount of guests and tasting servers to make the experience pleasant, relaxed, informative and enjoyable. read more

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[[HIGHLIGHT]]The first time I came here was around 2022, when Covid practices were still prevalent and these guys had a pleasant outdoor tasting area.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] I specifically came back here with my friends to enjoy some wine and a great outdoor experience with hopefully the same hospitality we got last time. We arrived and we were seated...it is still beautiful, but it seemed like the person who took care of our tastings just appeared to be very distracted and not so into the wine pours...we got small explanations of what we were getting and probably got the smallest tasting pours I have ever encountered anywhere...in which we got five. I thought the price tag of 30pp they would not be so stingy...and we did purchase a few bottles but there was no discount on the tastings even for that. I would highly encourage you to go elsewhere if you want to get a proper tasting. This place is just not the same as it was....what a pity. read more

Balletto Vineyards - Beautiful outdoor area - Wineries Near Me - Santa Rosa, California

I have been to Balletto SEVERAL times and absolutely LOVE their wine and most of the time the service is SUPERB!! However, the last time I was there, our server Jeff was very abrasive. From dropping menus/pens off aggressively and almost throwing them to glaring at my guests to not even giving us water to asking one of my guests using the bathroom "what are you doing here?" (we were all Latino), it was VERY weird and not my usual positive experience, so I'm extremely put off. We were even asked to close out our bill while we were halfway through a bottle we purchased, which was NEVER happened to me when visiting EVER, and after I had made it abundantly clear I was taking some wine home. It was EXTREMELY uncomfortable, off-putting and unwelcoming - the diametric opposite of what a wine tasting should feel like. read more

Balletto Vineyards - lounge area with the comfiest couches! - Wineries Near Me - Santa Rosa, California

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They had some snacks menu the prices were absolutely great. I couldn't believe how reasonable they were. We totally lucked out. The weather was perfect, our server was great, Victoria was our server and we had so many laughs and good conversations Victoria was wonderful, We had a great tasting. The Reds were lovely, and the price was extremely reasonable, which seems a rarity nowadays. [[HIGHLIGHT]]Sit outside under the pergola and enjoy the view. There is enough space between each other and feel like your conversation is still private.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] [[HIGHLIGHT]]It was relaxing and delicious, excellent visit[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] Cheers, my friends and SYOY 09/30/25 read more

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[[HIGHLIGHT]]they offer walk in tastings on their patio.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] liked the pinot noir and took a bottle home. read more

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Made a reservation on Tock due to potential holiday craziness. Took a couple minutes to check in and get our reservation sorted; however Rob was an absolute pleasure to converse with throughout our tasting. Would be nice to see them craft the charcuterie boards instead of everything being wrapped in packaging and brought to the table. [[HIGHLIGHT]]Overall, the atmosphere and rose of Pinot Noir on offer did not disappoint.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] read more

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Came to Balletto for their cellar tour and tasting. The normal tastings are $20-$30 and the tour is $40 which seemed reasonable. It was cool to see the cellars and learn about the winery and their sustainability practices but if you've been to other vineyards, you have likely seen some of the same things. Still a fun experience and our guide was knowledgeable and answered all our questions. The 11 am tour on Saturday morning was just our group of 3 so we ended up getting a private tour. I do think the tram tour (only offered in summer and $50) sounds better and wished we could have seen more of the grounds especially when grapes were growing. [[HIGHLIGHT]]The winery is dog friendly and family friendly.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] [[HIGHLIGHT]]By the time we moved to the wine tasting around noon after the tour, the outdoor tasting area was mostly full.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] They also had some kind of cheese festival or tour going on. The four stars is more about the wine itself. It was okay but I didn't love it. They mostly produce pinot noir and chardonnay so some of it was maybe personal preference but even the zinfandel, which is a wine I usually like, was underwhelming. In the past when I've gone wine tasting, there's at least 1 bottle I feel is worth buying but I didn't find any here. Again, this is obviously a personal thing and I'm definitely no wine expert. The charcuterie and cheese that you can purchase for an additional cost was delicious but you can also bring your own food and enjoy it on the grounds. [[HIGHLIGHT]]I think Balletto is best if you want a chill experience in a nice setting where you can bring family or pets as well as food.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] They do grow a lot of wine and also produce a bunch for other people. read more

We visited Balletto Vineyards during Memorial Day Weekend, having made a reservation in advance. The Reserve Tasting was only $25/person, which was very reasonable. When we arrived, our friendly hostess Charmaine sat us immediately. The (dog friendly) patio was fully covered in the area with tables, but also had a sunny portion with lawn games and Adirondack chairs. Charmaine also brought over water and a treat for my dog, which was so sweet! The Reserve Tasting included five wines, and took about an hour. The pours were pretty light, but we got to taste a few extra wines, which was exciting. Charmaine walked us through each wine and was very informative in her descriptions, in a totally unpretentious way. I enjoyed most of the wines and there were definitely some unique ones in the mix. My favorite was the Zinfandel, and I ended up ordering a glass after the tasting. Overall, a very pleasant experience! read more

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Well they could or be more accommodating. Victoria was very knowledgeable and nice! [[HIGHLIGHT]]Love the outdoor seating area with our little name tag for our reservation.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] Had a gift certificate from a few years back and they still honored it. They had a nice menu of cheeses and charcuterie although we didn't order anything but will definitely do so the next time we stop in! Wines were lovely! Great sparkling and yummy Pinots. read more

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The first winery we visited on our first ever trip to Sonoma was this one and it didn't disappoint! Service was great... [[HIGHLIGHT]]The venue is quite nice...[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] The wines are pretty good too! Our wine educator was very helpful and knowledgeable. We ended up leaving with a couple of cases and a membership here. Definitely worth visiting! read more

Balletto Vineyards is a local family owned winery located in the Russian River Valley of Sonoma County. With over 900 acres of lands across 22 vineyards, they are renowned for their high-quality Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. Wine tasters love the welcoming, comforting atmosphere and opportunity to taste a range of varietals crafted with care. Their wines are known for their balance, elegance, and expression of the tannins of the Russian River Valley. All offering a delightful experience worth savoring! Whether you're a seasoned wine lover or new to exploring Sonoma County wines, Balletto Vineyards is the place to go! read more

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We recently had ten family members visit from out of state. One day, we decided to take the crew wine tasting. One of those stops along the way was Balletto. My wife and I had been here once before with friends, so we were somewhat familiar with the winery. Upon arrival, we were greeted by Debbie (I believe) and our group of 13 was escorted to an indoor tasting area already set up. Debbie was an outstanding hostess/server throughout our journey of sampling their excellent wines. She was very informative and we all learned so much about the winery and wines offered. She also dealt with our crazy group admirably. Bravo!! I do believe this was everyone's favorite stop for the day. I based that on, two of us signed up to become club members. The 2012 Pinot Noir she brought out for us to sample was the clincher. If you want a non-pretentious winery that serves up excellent wine in a casual setting, his is your place. The wines are reasonably priced and the staff is outstanding. read more

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Friendly winery in between Sebastopol and Healdsburg, walk-ins welcome, very reasonable tasting fees for both their regular ($20/person) and reserved ($30/personal) wines. Famous for their Chardonnay and Pinot Noir but we ended up liking their Zinfandel more :) read more

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Balletto Winery was our first stop of the day. Balletto has a lengthy history of making award winning wines. The property is quaint, and drew me in right away. The wine tasting experience here was excellent. Our server walked us through Balletto's Estate tasting. We enjoyed tastings the 2022 Sauvignon Blanc, 2022 Rose of Pinot Noir, and 2020 Russian River Pinot Noir and 2020 Zinfandel. As we toured, the vineyard we also discovering the sustainable methods that Balletto uses to make their wines. I'd like to be back to attend one of their summer events. See my TikTok about the experience: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTREFDhkp/?t=2 Cheers! read more

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***3.5 Stars*** Delicious Pinot Gris and Gewurtztraminer for the win! Balletto exposed me to some seriously tasty summertime wines that I've been dreaming about as of late. Our tasting didn't start off of the right foot, but Dante really saved the day and the tasting for us. My friend and I made reservations for tastings here in the late afternoon. When we arrived, we were greeted by the hostess and seated on their patio. Their indoor space was closed due to COVID, but their patio space is really charming. Rob was our host for the first part of our tasting. While he was cordial, he seemed to be pretty disengaged during our tasting. We did the reserve tasting which includes a pre-poured flight of 5 tastes from their current reserve wine selections. Tastings are $20 and are waived with a 2 bottle purchase. Also, no outside food is allowed but I'm not sure if they offer food (didn't see any food menus around). I'm generally not a fan of pre-poured wine flights at wineries as I feel like you lose the engagement piece of the sommeliers. However, I've had some excellent experiences with very engaging sommeliers even though the flights are pre-poured. Rob did not offer a very engaging experience for us. He poured our flights, gave us very little information on the wines, and didn't check on us much during our tasting. In fact, he never even came back to tell us that he was leaving. Instead, his replacement, Dante, came by to let us know that he would be taking over for the rest of the tasting. And thank goodness that he did because I was already low key unimpressed with Rob's service AND with the reserve wine flight. Dante literally saved the day. The wines for the reserve tasting were not at all up to par. The white wines in the flight were overly oaked and the reds were very earthy/funky. It was almost as if they'd been open for too long and had been sitting out. When it came time for us to pay for our tasting, Dante asked us if we'd like to buy any bottles to waive the fee. We were honest with him and told him that we didn't really enjoy any of the wines that we had. He understood and offered to pour us some other wines off of their wine list to try to find some that we liked. So noble of him! And guess what?! We both fell in love with their white wines. Their Pinot Gris, Rosé, Sauvignon Blanc, and Gewürztraminer were all top notch! The crazy thing is, all of these wines were extremely reasonable in price (all $20 each) and they all tasted a hell of a lot better then their "reserve" line wines. THESE are the wines that they should be showcasing - not those others. Or, maybe they do for their regular flight?! Either way, we were so grateful that Dante took care of us and allowed up to delve deeper in to their white wines to find something that we liked. We took home a bottle of each of the white wines that we tried. After all, $20 for these incredibly refreshing summertime whites is an absolute steal. I've since finished them all and have been dreaming of about their Pinot Gris and Gewürztraminer (my two faves that I tried). So even though things started off a bit rocky, I'm excited to come back again to refill my summer white wine stash. I'm hoping that we'll get hosted by Dante again next time too because he was awesome! read more

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Balletto Vineyards is a family-owned winery that believes in crafting quality wines. They are known for Russian River Valley and West Sonoma Coast wines. They source their own grapes from their vineyards and focus on producing consistent wines year after year. When tasting in Balletto you have two tasting options including an Estate Tasting Experience and the Reserve Tasting Experience. The Estate Tasting Experience includes 4 wines and is only $15 per person. The Reserve Tasting Experience includes 5 wines and is $20 per person. During my last visit, I enjoyed the Reserve Tasting Experience, which included: - 2021 Unoaked Chardonnay - 2018 Cider Ridge Chardonnay - 2018 Winery Block Pinot Noir - 2018 Cider Ridge Pinot Noir - 2017 BCD Syrah I greatly enjoyed all of the wines during the tasting! They sure do have a wide selection of wines to satisfy any palate. The white wines are very refreshing and perfect for summer days. The red wines have a good balance. They also have a beautiful wine tasting area, which feels very relaxing and peaceful. There are tranquil fountains, succulents on each table and beautiful flowers. The whole tasting room area feels like one big community. The staff is always very knowledgeable about the wines and very friendly too. This is one of my favorite winery recommendations to friends and family! read more

[[HIGHLIGHT]]Beautiful outdoor patio; they have corn hole to keep kids occupied.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] We got the Estate tasting, so a it was a nice mix of white, rosé, and red. Jeff was great, love that he told us what each wine would pair nicely with. Jeff also went the extra mile to get an answer to a bizarre question I had regarding a cleaning solution he used to wipe a table down with. Balletto is a great stop to make on your Sonoma Valley trip. read more

Sometimes I have to suppress a yawn when interacting with winery personnel. The "wine babble" that gets relayed when wine is being poured and sipped can bore me to tears and it worsens when pretension is added to the equation. Balletto Vineyards though? The wine babble here is the polar opposite of that described above. Balletto staff has interesting and amusing tales to tell, not so much about the wine as about the interesting history of their winery. Without giving much away I'll just say that I was interested to learn that Balletto's origins are in vegetable farming. As drought made that enterprise more dicey the vegetables were sacrificed and grapes planted in their place. Many of the workers who originally farmed the vegetable fields made the transition to grapes and remain with the Balletto family today, making 100% estate-grown wine. Balletto sells most of their grapes to other winemakers saving only a small portion for bottling under their own label. It's those bottles you'll sample here and since they make adequate bank on selling grapes, the wine they do sell here is priced extremely reasonably. Their web site promises wine that "overdelivers" and I concur; Balletto's excellent wine is priced so reasonably that you won't have any hesitation purchasing 2 bottles to waive the $20 tasting fee. It's not often one can say that in this area. Balletto Vineyards is casual, without pretense. The patio set-up looks out onto vineyards but it is not any sort of awe-inspiring view. Still, I enjoyed everything about my Balletto Vineyards experience on a weekday afternoon. As much as I like to try new things, I'd definitely make time for a return visit when I again find myself in the area. read more

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Great anytime ! [[HIGHLIGHT]]Family and dog friendly, lots of parking, great wine and entertainment and best of all you can bring your own picnic or charcuterie board which a lot of wineries will no longer allow; they also offer them for sale[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]]. [[HIGHLIGHT]]It's very low key and super friendly![[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] They have chargers Tesla users read more

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Recently attended a barrel tasting here, and had an exquisite time! The winemakers, owners, and assorted staff were sampling out the wine. We learned we don't know anything about wine but all we need to know is...do you like it? The answer was a resounding yes across the board. Again, because we know nothing about wine, we'd scarfed a bag of flamin' hot cheetos and wasabi almonds on the way to the tasting. As I was nodding and discussing gopher mitigation strategies with the vintners, I couldn't help scribble in the tasting notes how well a $50 bottle of wine pairs with junk food. The staff were incredibly friendly and relaxed, making for an overall great time. read more

Stopped by early on a Sunday for a tasting. Because they were having a "Club Appreciation" event, two different tasting areas denied us a tasting as we were not members and had just "walked in". Sign outside saying "Walk Ins Welcome" is not always the case. There was literally no one else on the entire property. They could easily have welcomed us and provided a $30 tasting as we were also prepared to purchase a couple bottles. We walked away & will never go back. Drove to Sonoma to another winery where we were welcomed and spent our money there. read more

Cute patio. Good wine. They allow outside food and there is plenty of parking. A gentle little fountain bubbled and fell near our seat that really added to the ambiance. The hosts were engaging and knowledgeable. I'll be back again. read more

Balletto Vineyards - Wine tasting - Wineries Near Me - Santa Rosa, California

Took some out of state visitors here on a recent day of wine tasting. I made a reservation in advance but found we were running late. I emailed and received a prompt response saying we could arrive 30 minutes late. Upon arrival several parties were finishing up and we were greeted and served by Ian. Ian was friendly, professional and knowledgeable. He was kind enough to offer wine tastes to suit our individual tastes. I prefer Zinfandel (and they have delicious luxurious tasting zinfandels). My guests preferred white and sweet wines. Ian had something to offer everyone that allowed each of us to enjoy the experience tailored to our palates. I recommend this winery for an array of wines sure to please everyone from the wine connoisseur to the novice. My guests were particularly happy about this winery after reading the family stories on the website. read more

I joined the wine club after being invited to attend an event at the winery. I love the family owned winery experience and continue to be amazed and pleased with the service. I enjoy the attention to detail and the way they make wine club members feel valued and appreciated. I've received hand written notes, as well as emails following a visit. They truly create a special experience unlike any other wine club I've joined (and being in Sonoma County, I have joined a variety of different clubs). During the pandemic, they were quick to implement protocols to keep patrons/visitors safe and have really done an excellent job of making shopping easy and convenient. I couldn't be happier with my membership. read more

We had a wonderful experience here! [[HIGHLIGHT]]The ambiance is beautiful[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] and their wines were fantastic! Our favorites were all of their Pinots! I can't remember the lady who served us but she was so nice and accommodating! We'll be back! read more

We stopped by at 4pm on Wednesday afternoon and were so fortunate to have DEBBIE as our hostess/ server. So positive, helpful, and informative about the wines and the history of the winery. You could not ask for anyone better-- ask for Debbie! We had a very nice tasting out on the patio. She gave us plenty of time and lots of info. We were given tastings from the regular list and a few extras. We enjoyed most of the wines we tasted and purchased a few bottles. Definitely recommend stopping by Balletto, a family winery, and asking for Debbie. It's a few miles out of the way but definitely worth it. Tasting fee is reasonable and waived with purchase of 2 bottles. read more

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Connie our server was the best, so attention oriented and sweet to our whole party, even the dog

We enjoyed wine tasting here on the patio. We did not have reservations, but they graciously found a spot for us anyway. They really are a friendly bunch! We bought two bottles of wine. They really focus on Pinos, but I usually prefer Cabernet. Despite that, we'll definitely be back to enjoy a nice glass of wine on the patio. If only we lived closer... read more

My husband LOVES baseball and this winery was advertising an 1800's old fashioned baseball game and wine tasting. So of course I had to purchase tickets. We took the 2 hour drive and made a nice weekend out of. [[HIGHLIGHT]]The venue is quite beautiful.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] Apparently this event was also their members pick-up party. We had a separate check in table with a different colored wristband so they knew we weren't members. There were 4 wine tastings that honestly were damn good! The unfortunate part of this experience for us was we felt the staff was unwelcoming and didn't engage with us. The owner was actually pouting at Station 2 and he looked miserable and not one staff member asked us how we were or what we thought about our time there. The tastings were not explained to us, thankfully we could read lol I wish they improved on their customer service if they want to grow their membership. They made us feel like non-members, not future members. Huge miss for them. read more

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Love this winery! Beautiful out door tasting and the staff is great. I like that instead of just telling us about the wine our host, Heidi, shared with us the history of the winery and how they got their beginnings. Also, where their different grapes are grown and how that affects the wine. Highly recommend you stop in for a tasting. Pro tip: If you want to leave a tip, you need to tell them before they run your card. read more

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I had a lovely Sunday afternoon wine tasting recently at Balletto! The wines were delicious, the service was superb, and their patio was so dreamy. Due to COVID restrictions, my friend made a reservation online. When we arrived, we had to wait a while for our table to be ready. You only have an hour and fifteen minutes for your tasting, so I did feel a bit rushed. We definitely could have spent much longer enjoying their delightful patio! When we got to our table, our tasting was already set up. Each wine I tried was delicious. I feel like the quality of Balletto's wine was the highlight for me. I also thought that their COVID restrictions were quite impressive. It definitely felt like the safest winery I've visited during the pandemic. However, there was a slight sterility to this tasting. Don't expect any bonus pours or off-menu tastings here! The inability to linger was also a bit disappointing. But overall, a solid and safe tasting experience. read more

What a great experience we had here! Our wine expert Ian was knowledgeable and personable and engaged in conversation with my crazy family. We all did a tasting and then shared a bottle of rose'. A second bottle made the drive back to LA with me. The atmosphere is exactly what you want at a winery - beautiful, warm and inviting. read more

Balletto Vineyards - We got a great family photo on the patio. And it's pug friendly! - Wineries Near Me - Santa Rosa, California

We love tasting at the nice outdoor patio, with the surrounding lawn and the nearby fountain. The wines are lovely, from the Interesting, delicious Gewürztraminer all the way through other whites to the amazing Pinots, then the Syrah. I have many favorites! Also, very personable, friendly, oenophiles working in the tasting room who help make it a fun experience! Ch read more

Balletto Vineyards - Outside tasting with my dog and friend - Wineries Near Me - Santa Rosa, California

I love Ballettto Pinot Noir and [[HIGHLIGHT]]I loved the way my kids were given space to roam and corn hole to play[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]], but...I did not like the fact it seemed like we were getting generous extra pours, but then we were charged for the fancier tasting without being told or asked. Instead of $20/person, it was $30, I didn't realize what had happened until we were walking out, but I feel like there should be clear communication when you are upselling and not expecting patrons to read the board on the way in. I love their Pinots and the way my kids were treated so much, I may return, but tasters beware of the sneaky upsell. read more

Thank you, Balletto, for offering $.01 shipping for six bottles or more during the COVID crisis. That extra half case of Chardonnay helped me through the last several weeks. And then? I got my spring wine club shipment in the mail last week and stocked up yet again on two kinds of rose, pinot gris and, yes, more chardonnay. I've decided that 2020 is the Year of Chard'ing. read more

Buyer beware on signing up for membership.we loved this place until we decided to cancel membership/aka wine club.After canceling but still visiting every once in awhile,I happened to notice random charges on my original credit card used for previous membership.what I found out was that the winery took it upon themselves to re instate my membership without any authorization from me to do so.when confronted,they said they tried to call to see if we wanted to rejoin and since they were not able to speak to us after 3 tries the just re activated our account (without my authorization remind you).again,buyer beware read more

Balletto Vineyards is a great relaxing place in the Vineyards sipping wine with good conversation with family, friends, or an afternoon date. Their wines range from a sparkling, Chardonnay, Rose, Pinor, and onwards to a shirah and more. Amazing and knowledgeable staff help you journey through their selection of tasty and moderately price of the bottled nectar. Must go to enjoy the view, wine, and atmosphere. We found that calling for reservations can be helpful read more

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Getting lost on a road trip with no service in Sebastopol, my friend and I stumbled upon this gorgeous vineyard and just had to stop to take pictures of it's multi-colored fall leaf varieties. The vineyards were breathtaking and after 30 minutes or so of photoshoots we decided to check out the tasting room and see what these vines could produce. A general tasting was $10 but we split one costing us $5 each and giving us a few sips of 7 different wines. This vineyard is strongest in their Red Wines but also carries a fine Rosè and Zinfadel. My favorite of the tasting actually happened to be the Rosè which was a 2013 Brut Rosè. The 2014 Burnside Pinot Noir was also very intriguing especially because the fires had just passed through NorCal so I had thought that was why the wine tasted smokey. However, this wine was barreled way before the fires took place and just happened to taste that way which is why they named it's location Burnside Lane. The gal working our tasting experience was very kind and somewhat informative. I would've liked to know a little more about what was in the blends and what they best paired with. But for a $5 tasting and an extra taste thrown in there for fun, it was definitely worth the experience. I'm not sure if I'll ever be back but if you live up in this area I would definitely recommend stopping by to see the gorgeous leaves in the Fall and/or if you love red wines you must come try their blends soon. Make sure to check out the baseball field while you're at it and explore the gorgeous vineyards on sight. read more

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I like their outdoor seating area. Service and seating was quick. I was just disappointed in the temperature of the wine flight and my extra order of sparkling rose. Yes it was hot out but I just came from another winery where wine temp was fine. Maybe it's because the wine is all set out for you vs pouring each one individually. Perhaps a Covid precaution? Wine, for the most part tastes good but hard to tell because of the temp. :( read more

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Pleasant and spacious patio with friendly staff. However, the wines were very forgettable esp given the price point and there wasn't much attention at all from our server. read more