Our one year old pug, Doug, LOVES going to daycare at Doggie Goddess! I was nervous to use a daycare thinking our dog wouldn't be treated well, but I've been so impressed by Traci and the whole team. They clearly love the dogs like their own and play with them all day long! The whole team provides personable, professional and caring service. In addition to daycare we've also done grooming services which is an awesome add on!! It's so nice to get everything done at once and have a sleepy clean pup for pickup! read more

Doggie Goddess Pet Services - Doug making friends of all sizes at daycare! - Pet Boarding Near Me - Los Angeles, California

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Both my dog, Finley, and I have separation anxiety being apart from one another. So much so that I have been too afraid to have him boarded all throughout his 6 years of life! I saw that so many people recommended Doggie Goddess on Reddit when I was scouring the internet to find the most trustworthy boarding facilities. So, I took a leap of faith and brought Finley all the way from Santa Barbara to be boarded with them for a week while I was in London. My first impression of the owner, Traci, was over the phone and immediately, it was clear how committed she was to providing the utmost love, comfort, and fun to the dogs in her care. Doggie Goddess posts photos and videos on their social media every day so that you can see firsthand throughout the day how much your furry loved one is being cared for, along with the other dogs that they make friends with and play with. You will quickly notice why so many individuals have recommended their services so highly: all the lovely women who make this place so special. Finley thrived with Doggie Goddess, and I will, without a doubt, only be taking him here for all future daycare and boarding services. Thank you again to Traci and her team of incredible women who gave Finley such an amazing first boarding experience!! I am so grateful to have found them. read more

Doggie Goddess Pet Services - Finley thriving during his boarding stay - Pet Boarding Near Me - Los Angeles, California

Traci, Yadira and the rest of the team are the absolute best!!! My fur baby Ally loves going to Doggie Goddess. She is so eager and happy to arrive and just as happy when I pick her up. I have followed Doggie Goddess for the past 3.5 years even when the location moved out of my route to work. There are probably dozens of doggie day cares that may be more convenient for me but there is no where else I would ever go. Traci and team are our Pack! Highly recommend for daycare, boarding and grooming. read more

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We are happy clients! Traci is so dedicated to her work and taking care of our beloved Poppy. Our review is well overdue. We feel she deserves a 10 stars! Overcoming all the obstacles over the last year have proven her 100% commitment to our fur babies and her team. Our Poppy is always engaged and enjoys her playtime with her "friends". We always get back one tired girl. Thank you to all the Doggie Goddesses who love and play with our babies while we are off doing what we need to, it's invaluable peace of mind. read more

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The whole team at Doggie Goddess is the absolute best! Our rowdy 1-year-old rescue puppy gets so excited every time we drop her off and always comes home exhausted. The instagram page is also amazing to check in while out of town :) read more

Doggie Goddess Pet Services - Happy puppy - Pet Boarding Near Me - Los Angeles, California

We started going to Traci when she was at La Brea, and so it is appropriate to say how proud of her we are that she is growing! She had some reservations at first about our dog because well, we have a difficult dog (who is requiring training BTW!). She and her staff are well versed in doggy language and behavior. Our dog Tibet has fallen in love with Traci (probably misses her house TBH!) and of course Stephanie and Yadira! The "tough love" they showed our dog was amazing and there are certainly no more reservations from them about "handling" our rambunkeous (sp??) dog! read more

This is loooong overdue. Where do I begin!?! Well, like all other pet parents (in my case pet grandparent who has gladly taken over the care of my beloved grand-dog), I was in search of a doggie daycare. After searching and trying out other cage free doggie daycares, I knew that Doggie Goddess was special. Once I spoke to the Assistant Manager, Yadira, and the Owner, Traci, I knew this is where my dog needed to be. My dog, a Covid rescue, definitely had issues. Although he absolutely loves dogs, people, on the other hand, not so much. It has been no small feat to win the trust and affection of my dog. The staff at Doggie Goddess made it look easy. Not only do I love this place but my grand-dog loves it more! He literally loses his mind with excitement when we pull up!! Doggie Goddess is truly the Harvard of doggie daycares. read more

Traci, Yadira and team always take such great care of my baby Chicharron! We've been bringing him here for daycare and he always is so excited once he realizes where he's going. Just picked him up from boarding at Doggie Goddess for what was supposed to be a 6 day trip but our flight was cancelled and Traci was so understanding and flexible with watching him one more day. She put our worries at ease and also posted pictures and videos of him daily on her IG. So happy that Cheech was able to have as much fun on his vacation as we did! He's beyond happy and so tired from getting to play so much! Thank you Traci and team! read more

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This review is long overdue!!! Our initially shy goldendoodle has been coming to doggie goddess since he was only 10 months old in Oct 2022 for both their daycare and boarding services. We wanted him to grow out of his shell and have an indoor/outdoor play space. He is now almost 1.5yrs old and he just THRIVES at doggie goddess!!!! He loves it and gets so excited before we even pull up to the building. He has become so much more confident and playful and loves the "pack" mentality. He is so socially content after his days there! I love the instagram pictures and videos the staff post to see him playing with his friends. I can't express enough how much love the staff (Traci, Yadira, Taylor, Stefany) give to our dog and all dogs there. They know everyone by name and really get to know the personality of each dog to ensure their safety and comfort. This place is honestly amazing and I highly recommend. They have amazing hours and great rates too with packages you can purchase in advance. We love DG!!! It's our pups home away from home! read more

Doggie Goddess Pet Services - All smiles at Doggie Goddess! - Pet Boarding Near Me - Los Angeles, California

My dog LOVES this place. He gets so excited when we approach the building and RUNS in to play with his friends! They announce his arrival and the other pups bark like he's a rock star. He's exhausted and happy from playing all day. The staff is knowledgeable and friendly. I often get updates on how he "did at school today" from Yadira (his primary teacher). Traci, the owner.. gives stellar tips to help with various questions I've had over the past few months of his going here. Can't recommend this place enough. They post pics on their IG account daily so you can see your pup in action. read more

Doggie Goddess Pet Services - My pup is the one staring straight into the camera. They likely caught him on a Wrestle-mania break with a buddy. - Pet Boarding Near Me - Los Angeles, California

This is a long overdue review. I can not say enough positive things about Doggie Goddess. We've been taking Stevie there since July 2022. Traci and her team came highly recommended from a dog group I belong in. We were looking for boarding and I didn't feel comfortable with another day care we were taking Stevie to at the time (that's a whole other post). They are all so welcoming and loving. As soon as we go inside Stevie runs in to play with his fiends. He still has a hard time sleeping away from home and they still love on him when he's running around in the middle of the night. When he comes home he is exhausted, which means he had a great time playing. Stevie was recently attacked at a dog park and the pack leaders all made sure he was comfortable with his friends and wasn't scared. They post videos and pictures of all the dogs having the best time. I wish I could give more than 5 stars. I'm so happy we found Doggie Goddess read more

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I've moved four times in the last few years, so I've had to find doggy daycare in several cities. Some are better than others, but Traci and her team are truly the best we've found. They're knowledgeable, accommodating and the animals really love them. (My beagle on her second visit sprinted towards Traci ... always a great sign!) I've been to places where they don't remember the dog, constantly ask a lot of repetitive questions or simply give off the vibe they don't care. The Doggie Goddess team is always attentive and knows exactly what they're doing to make the process quick, simple and fun for the dogs. (They noticed my pup could use a nail trim and texted a pic and an offer to trim them, no charge. I happily paid because that's a level of service worth paying for). read more

LISTEN Y'ALL!!! Doggie Goddess is *THE* place. Stop looking for other daycares, and ESPECIALLY stop looking for overpriced boarding that just keeps your dog in a crate all night. This is your sign! There is no other person you would want to take care of your fur baby other than Traci and her staff! They make you feel as if they've known your baby since the day you got them, and your baby is a part of their family too-not just a day at the job. My little man, Duke, has aggression towards certain people, so leaving him with a stranger that I never met really made me nervous. But after his 3 night stay, it looked like he had a smile on his face for 72 hours straight (you can just tell when your bub is happy). She even called on the first night just to reassure me that he is doing great. What other place can you say takes their time out to be personable with you? I moved an hour away and I still chose to make that drive the last time I went out of town because that's how much I believe in her small (but oh so mighty) business. It was Dukes birthday yesterday and I dropped him off for the night so he can have fun with all his friends (yes, that how great she her business is) and they took a video of them singing happy birthday to him. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! (it's on their instagram if you want to see the cuteness) Anyway, you probably already get the point with how long this review is but if you want your pup to have a great time with great people, and come home happy and exhausted, look no further. read more

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Oh my goodness we love Doggie Goddess and I am so glad to have found them. You can tell everyone who works there loves the dogs like their own - especially the owner Traci! Her upbeat personality and bright energy will instantly put a smile on your face. I love how excited she gets when she sees me dropping off my dog, Harlow, for boarding. The staff posts photos and videos on Instagram throughout each day and I love looking for my dog and seeing how much fun she's having, which shows by how pooped out she is after every stay. If you're looking for dog boarding or daycare, you can't do wrong with Doggie Goddess. read more

We love The Doggie Goddess! Traci is a dog whisperer and creates a controlled but playful environment whether day care or boarding. We totally trust her with our adult pitti mix. Snoopy runs to the car every morning hoping for a Doggie Goddess day. There's no better recommendation than that! read more

This is THE greatest place to send your fur baby. I don't trust anyone else. Even with my lil problem child, they make it easy. The staff are incredible and the owner Traci is truly like a dog whisperer. They all are. My anxious dog was kissing one of the staff members and that's huge! read more

The first few times with Traci, I have been pleased with the personal care and communication regarding my dog Leo but it seems things have changed recently. I am unsure if the facility is overwhelmed with the capacity of the dogs they take in, and although they have hired assistants I am not confident I will be coming back to use their service again. It is painful for me to leave a less than stellar review for Doggie Goddess since I am always supportive of family-run businesses. When it comes to leaving my dog in the hands of others, I am careful to select someone for obvious reasons. When I didn't receive any updates from Traci, I reached out and because I had just arrived at the airport late Saturday night (10:30 pm) she did not get back to me so I followed up again the next morning. I got an explanation of why her messages were delayed due to her sleeping early and also "sleeping in" on Sunday's. I understand that her life should not revolve around her business 24/7, but all I got regarding my dog is "he is fine, and he says he will see you tomorrow" along with a pic after her rundown of her sleep schedule which I felt was unnecessary. The following day when I came to pick him up, her assistant brought Leo to me and told me how he was so good and how much they loved him. I appreciated her assistant's reassuring words and energy. Traci saw me and waved from a far, which felt a bit impersonal and as if she wanted to avoid me altogether. Maybe I'm wrong, but that is the vibe I got and my mind could have been put at ease if she changed the way she spoke to me. Also, the next couple of days Leo showed signs of stress and seem disoriented when he was home rather than the usual energetic and happy dog he is when I pick him up so that's another red flag I picked up. I guess I will be taking up on my friends' offer to dog sit him in the future, or continue to find a better pet sitting service. **Update and response to Traci: I felt 2 stars were fair and representative of the service I received in the recent stay, as I said. Traci has the right to defend her business and the way she runs it, and as a customer I believe in honestly speaking about my experience and sharing with others. I am candid in how I felt, which I have outlined already and Traci confirmed in her response about our text message exchanges. I didn't get any updates while I was gone, and checked in when I landed since she is aware of how long Leo would be staying. The previous stays Traci would update me voluntarily, or I would check their IG to see if there were any pics of Leo so why would I assume it would be different this time and give instructions to update me. Isn't that protocol at most pet sitting services for extended and overnight stays? In this case, there wasn't any updates or posts until I requested an update via text. To say that she can't seem to please me makes it sound like I'm being demanding when all I asked was how Leo was doing. This review could have also been avoided if Traci communicated to her clients about the well-being of their beloved pets and in a professional manner rather than a long paragraph about her sleep routine on the weekends and 1 sentence about my dog. I am unsure what Leo's experience was like since he cannot talk so I am going off of what signs he is showing, which is not typical of all the other times he's been with Doggie Goddess. As I said, previous stays were pleasant but this recent time was different. I stand by my review and I hope Traci will take the time to assess ways on improving her relationship with her clients with better communication rather than relying on them to tell her how to rectify the situation. It was a good run but I will now have to move on. read more

This is by far THE BEST daycare and boarding for my HIGH ENERGY, 85 lbs, Girl. The owner and her staff really love ALL dogs and it shows in their care. Other daycares told me to medicate my dog or they cage her. Doggie Goddess said "nonsense" to meds and cages - TRUE PROS! They have been a Godsend for me and my Brie! read more

I write this with great sadness as I recently had to put my dog down, but I am happy to say she found great comfort in regularly going to Doggie Goddess during her final months. Traci & her crew are very professional, run a well-oiled machine, and hands down have the best hours of any daycare operation in the Greater Los Angeles area. Viv would always get excited from the front passenger seat as we rolled into the parking lot at 6 a.m. every weekday and would make a beeline to the door with someone always there to greet her. When picking her up, I always felt peace of mind that she was properly cared for, as I'd hear her barks of joy coming from outside the building, knowing it was time to go home for some much-needed rest. I recommend any dog owner take their furry loved one to Doggie Goddess. You will be satisfied. read more

The Doggie Goddess is hands down the best doggie daycare! All I have to do is say "it's time for school," and my dog Pip absolutely loses his mind. He is so excited every morning that he gets to go see Traci, and sulks on the days I don't take him. When we pick him up, he is so exhausted from playing that he sleeps the rest of the night. I am so grateful to have found somewhere that takes such great care of my pet. The staff is incredibly friendly and welcoming. I honestly could not recommend them more. read more

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Doggie Goddess has literally changed our lives! They take such amazing care of our pup Boba, starting from when he was an unruly 6 month old to now, 2 years later! He loves going to daycare and boarding so much that we can leave town knowing that he is in not only safe hands, but that he is thrilled to be there. Traci, the owner, is second to only his parents as his favorite human. read more

The owner, Traci and her wonderful team (Yadira, Stefanie, Taylor and others) have been taking excellent care of my high energy Pit Bull Boxer whenever I travel. Traci was willing to take care of my boy when I first adopted him and he was still working on his manners. She gave me suggestions and feedback that were very helpful in those early days. The facility has a great outdoor space and there are no cages. My dog is so happy to stay there that when I drop him off he doesn't look back and when I picked him up the last time he wanted to stay. I appreciate the regular Instagram posts with photos of him playing with the other dogs. Also I can get text updates whenever I need to. Traci treats my boy like he is her own and this allows me to take vacations without worrying. read more

This was my first time boarding my 9 month old puppy, and i was super nervous of having to leave her my baby for the next three days. Tracie reassured me to not worry one bit, and she actually made me feel really comfortable leaving my puppy with her. When I was away, tracie responded to my texts fairly quickly and also sent me pics and videos of my puppy which i really really appreciated. She was awesome, and i felt so relieved cause i thought she was taking care of my puppy with so much care. She even bathed my puppy before I picked her up! Unfortunately, the day after i picked my baby up, she started throwing up constantly, threw up a 2 inch seed, and started to throw up blood. I immediately contacted my local vet, and texted tracie as well cause i had no idea where my puppy could've ingested that from. She responded quickly, and kept telling me that she has no idea my puppy could've gotten that from either. She searched on google to find what kind of seed it can be after i sent her a picture of what my dog threw up, and she told me it might be a seed that falls off from palm trees. She kept telling me that there are "no palm trees around her area", but keep in mind that my puppy threw up not even a full day after coming back from tracie's place, and i haven't been able to take my dog outside ever since we brought her back home (btw i live in an apartment, so no backyard). It actually makes me sad cause i thought this place could be the place where i can overnight board my puppy when i need to go out of town, but i dont think its worth taking the risk of spending $115 for overnight boarding and then having to spend over $2k on medical bills after bringing my puppy back from boarding. read more

Doggie Goddess Pet Services - What my puppy ingested. - Pet Boarding Near Me - Los Angeles, California

Had to go somewhere for 12 hours on a Sunday and didn't know what to do with my puppy. I called in on Friday and they said they are closed Sundays - BUT - they do a boarding service daily and as long as you drop your doggie off by Saturday before 4pm you can keep your doggie there until Monday morning! I was hesitant to be away from my pup for so long, but I brought him in (with his vet history!) and in about 10 minutes he was all set! I left food for him with the owners and was amazed that they offered to send text photo updates! Definitely made me feel better! After a few hours I received some photos of him running in the backyard of the owners with some other doggies! So cute! Staff: the owners are incredible with my dog and the other dogs. They don't board the dogs at their location on La Brea - they take them via doggie van to their home! So the doggies have tons of space, get to play outdoors - it's incredible. My puppy came back tired and happy! We have since dropped him off for daycare - he loves that too! I will definitely come back - especially if I go away for a weekend and need a place for my puppy to stay! Thank you doggie goddess! read more

Traci and her team are marvelous. Facilities are clean and support proper doggie play and interaction.

I could tell right away after picking my pup up from her weekend visit that she had a great time! Traci was super accommodating and responsive. She sent little updates and pictures throughout the weekend which is a small thing that really goes a long way! It was a relief to know she was in good hands! I will be using Traci in the future no doubt! Thanks Traci! read more

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Our pup absolutely loves it here, she happy-whines every time we turn down the street where Doggie Goddess is located. Traci and her team are extremely knowledgeable and incredibly trustworthy. We are beyond happy with their services. read more

Doggie Goddess is where it's at! Brought my lil' girl in for her first-ever stay and she was immediately raring to go. The on-boarding process was fast (super helpful as I was headed to airport) and Traci was unbelievably accommodating every step of the way. "Bama" had THE best time running, playing and doing her thing during her 5 nights with Traci and team. Couldn't be happier and will be coming back again soon! read more

Our dog is the second generation of canine beneficiaries of Traci's wonderful care. She provides a great environment that our dog loves to visit, and invariably returns happy, healthy and centered. We feel really grateful to be within close driving range of the Doggie Goddess! read more

Traci and her team have embraced our lil pup who used to be nervous around bigger dogs and helped her blossom into a social butterfly!! We've taken her to doggie day care once a week and we love being able to see her playing on the Instagram page, as well as getting personal texts/updates during her first couple day care sessions to let us know how she was doing. We just boarded our puppy with Traci for a weekend and when we came back, we could tell our puppy had the best time hanging out with other dogs, running free in Traci's yard, and being loved on by Traci and her family. Thank you for letting Daisy join the pack, she is thriving and more confident than ever. I was probably more anxious about leaving her at day care than my puppy was, but Traci has maintained amazing communication, compassion, and honesty this whole the time. Can't recommend Doggie Goddess enough! You can tell Traci and her team LOVE animals and we fully trust them, which is hard to find in a busy city like LA! read more

I would give more stars if I could. All dog owners know how hard it is to put their faith and trust in another person to watch out for the well-being of their dog. Traci is patient, thoughtful, and reliable. I am so happy to have found her and I feel like I can actually enjoy going out of town knowing that Miso is with her. Traci has gone above and beyond for me and my dog. My dog needed to make it to an emergency vet appointment when I was scheduled to be out of town and Traci saved the day and took care of drop-off and pick-up. Before I boarded my dog for the first time, Traci knew I was nervous and offered a complimentary day at daycare before we locked into a long overnight boarding stay. She was lovely and supportive and reassuring. I know Miso has soooo much fun with her playing in her backyard! Thank you Traci!! read more

Exceeds expectations. I'll probably give it the 5th star when we go back. I had to take my dog to the vet for an unexpected procedure. The vet is close to my work, but I can not take my dog into a professional office setting so I was hoping to board him at the vet until I could pick him up at lunch. Unfortunately the vet did not take boardings, but recommended we walk down the street to this place. Worked for me! The owner(?) was very nice and accommodating on short notice and the dog seemed to have had a good time. I left him all day, as nobody called me to say he wasn't doing well in a public space after going to the vet. Would recommend. read more

I have been coming here for almost 15 years now with multiple dogs. This place is the best! And Tracie rocks!

Doggie goddess gets 5 stars. They are a wonderful doggie daycare. Tracie is absolutely wonderful and she is so caring towards the dogs.All the dogs from what i have seen, are so happy and absolutely love Tracie. Tracie always, tries to help in every way she can when it comes to the dogs. She knows of the best trainers, she takes dogs home with her on the weekends and my dog , loves her to death. I would highly recommend doggie goddess to anyone that is looking for a really great daycare, for their fur baby! Thank you Tracie for being so great with Guinness and Grace! You are the best! read more

Traci and her staff are fantastic! So communicative and helpful. Like many new dog parents, we were nervous about leaving our dog over a weekend away, but Traci took care of him and loved him like her own. We'll definitely come back to daycare! Our pup is happy and tired :). read more

I LOVE the Doggie Goddess! This is my favorite place to board my pup. Before finding the Doggie Goddess, I tried many other places in LA and I am so happy to have found such a caring place to leave my dog. She has fun while I am away and I don't have to worry about her being bored and cooped up in a kennel. I even started bringing my dog there to daycare once a week when I am working because she loves it so much. She runs to runs to the door when we park and is always SO excited to go. I never thought my dog would be a doggie daycare dog, but it is such a treat for her and she comes home tired and happy. Traci and her staff take such good care of the pups and keep you updated too. Highly recommend! read more

Doggie Goddess Pet Services - She will even post videos of your doggie playing :) - Pet Boarding Near Me - Los Angeles, California

Zuma LOVES coming here! She gets excited as soon as we get to the door. AND, my favorite part is she comes home tired after a fun day of playing! Thanks for keeping my energetic dog busy, Doggie Goddess! read more

I love Doggie Goddess!!! But more importantly our pup Mowgli loves Doggie Goddess. He stands up in the back seat of the car and starts wagging his tail as soon as we are rounding the corner for drop off and then he drags me to the door running off without so much as a goodbye kiss for his momma. Mowgli is an awesome dog and likes play time, but when new to a daycare facility he takes a lot of TLC because he's nervous and overwhelmed to meet so many other new friends. He's like his mom in that way. So nervous in fact that he can come across as aggressive when he's actually not. We have had other daycares that don't give even 5 minutes to work with him and end up throwing him in a kennel for the day. Not acceptable. When we moved to LA and were looking for a new daycare we came across Doggie Goddess and I could just tell before we even brought him in that this was going to be a great fit. The communication with Traci and team was exceptional and high touch. They listened and believed us when we said "we promise he loves other dogs but may not seem like it at first". After all, he went to daycare 5 days a week back home. They told us their plan of action to work with him on his first day and sure enough he was having a ball in no time. He doesn't go 5 days a week because we work from home right now but we take him when we can and he's just always so pleasantly exhausted when he comes home. You won't regret handing your pups over to these fabulous folks! The team is so loving and fun - you can just tell they all love everything about what they do and have such care for the animals. And believe Traci when she says "they don't call me Doggie Goddess for nothing" because she's absolutely right. Take your pups here so they can live their best life when away from home! And by doing so you'll be supporting a small business, a black woman-owned business, and a business run by people that give a sh*t about what they do and that's not easy to find these days. Thank you Doggie Goddess!! read more

Doggie Goddess Pet Services - Mowgli after getting his bath at Doggie Goddess. - Pet Boarding Near Me - Los Angeles, California

I'm a bit annoyed with the negative comments on this page: Traci and Chris are absolutely fantastic. You can't get any better with a doggie daycare service. They don't do crates and offer so much love to the animals. I don't worry about my pup for a second (and I'm a worry wart). Rest assured when I say, as a protective dog mom, that I give this family-owned business an A+ for their love, support, and safety for the animals. I have been going here for months, but will be moving out of LA soon. I will miss them dearly (and so will Zeppelin!). Much love, fam! read more

Some of you leaving long negative reviews seem like exhausting people to begin with, so I can only imagine how it is dealing with you in customer service. That's neither here nor there, but I will say that my fur-baby means the world to me, I've had him for 12.5 years, and there is nothing I'm more particular about than his care. As a matter of fact, I removed my baby from another daycare to come here because Traci was so much more personable, has demonstrated a tremendous passion and care for our babies, takes them into her own HOME (I mean, who does that?) and works very, very hard to make sure everyone is happy. Of course that's impossible, but I've never had a question about my baby's care, treatment, or safety with her. And with a dozen dogs freely roaming, playing, and having a great time -- would anyone really expect them to come home smelling like peonies? If your baby has all his/her shots, they should be just fine. I will definitely be bringing my little guy back, he seems to love the adventure, and Traci! read more