Terrible, terrible, terrible training. I use to be a member and trained for years with HVOC (1990's). The trainers who are there now (2011) are only capable or use to working with dogs who do not assert themselves. If you have large dog, working breed, or dominate dog, they are NOT capable of working with dogs of this caliber, nor the owners. The techniques are archaic, chaotic and can provoke aggression which they are not prepared to deal with. Either due to lack of experience, exposure or capabilities on the part of the trainers.
The quality of the training and structure of the classes has significantly dimished over the past 15 or so years; albeit, the prices seem to increase tremendously? While this should be a positive environment for all dogs and all owner/handlers, this is no longer holds true for HVOC. I am afraid that a significant part of the membership at HVOC has lost perspective.
While they do focus on clicker and positive motivation only; they use physical aggression (yanking) for corrections instead of re-direction. For those who are not familiar, this will escalate aggressive tendancies, especially from confident dog(s) who won't accept strangers, let alone a stranger giving (them) a harsh leash correction without first teaching the dog what needs to be done.
Don't get me wrong, marker/clicker training can be a very useful tool, and can be very useful for the right trainer, handler and dog, in the right environment. However, it isn't the only tool that should be in an accomplished trainers toolbox.
While some instructors have man years of experience with handling or training a dog or dogs to a CGC, CD or CDX level many years ago, that does not automatically make that person a qualified trainer for all dogs, all breeds and at all levels or types of training in all venues.
At the introduction/orientation, none of the trainers spoke about the learning phase, the correction phase or the distraction phase in dog training. Trainers or assistants deliberately set dogs up for failure and try physical corrections such as yanking the leash, kneeing dogs in the chest, or feebly attempting an alpha roll on young dogs. Then tell class members "this is what will happen" or "that dog is a liability" or "if you don't listen or do it my way, you can leave." Didn't we learn that we should always "praise in public and reprimand in private?"
Has common decency and respect for other adults and animal lovers
been replaced by ego and authoritative instructors? Should a novice owner/handler be subjugated in public because they don't have the necessary abilities or skill set yet? Afterall, isn't that why they are here in the first place, to learn?
Dog training has evolved just like everything else, computers, cars, cell phones, methods of communication (texting, etc). The trainers have to be open to different methods of training. HVOC should set owners and dogs up for success, NOT FAILURE. Training at HVOC especially at the lower level classes (puppies, beginner 1 & 2) is not a POSITIVE experience if you have a dominant breed of dog.
Also, you can't distinguish between trainers, assistant trainers or other club member who walk around and tell you what to do with your dog(s), they constantly contridict each other. Lastly, no one who is a trainer will state their qualifications such as how many dogs they have trained, what breeds or in what venues. This information is not stated on their website either. Can't HVOC provide a brief one or two paragraph "bio" on their instructors?
I think the classes should be restructured. The first week of class, you should be given an orientation of what is expected. Also, you should get a demonstation of the various instructors ACTUALLY training their dogs, so new owners and handlers will know what to expect. The second week of training should be the first time dogs are present and the instructors should go through a "modified" Volhard's temperment test and after the results, be grouped into cohorts based on dog, breed, age, maturity, level of experience of the handler and temperment and capability of the dog.
All training (present day) are done in groups or teams, dog training should be no different. Instead of having 20-25 dogs in a circle, where only one or two people are getting attention, wouldn't it be better to have 4 or 5 groups of 4-5 dogs in each group?
There is more success at the higher levels of classes because in those classes where people are competing at the UD or UDX level, they are experienced dog handlers with experienced dogs who have been training for many years to be able to be competitive at that level. It is a disservice to the dogs as well as the handers/owners to have such unstructured chaos at the beginning levels of class. Afterall, this is where the foundation for all dog training begins.
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