Don't purchase from them!!!!! They will scam you. They take your credit card info and run it for more than you authorize. They turn in paperwork to your credit card company to make it look like you authorized it and the credit card company gives them the money because of there documentation. It's stealing and a scam just like them. Fabio is the man's name and talks you into product and tells you your worth it. I doubt that's his name. It's fake like the rest of them and the are a foreign entity. Its credit card scam. I gave them 1 star. Because I had too. They deserve 0. They are inside the paris casino I hope the casino knows what they are supporting. I will never stay there again. read more

Stay away ! High pressure sales of crap products. They scan the crowd for women to put their cream on. It does not work. Their fake and non stop compliments and then tell you how your skin will improve with their overpriced skin care products. It's a sure sign when their sign at the register says NO REFUNDS NO EXCHANGES. read more

Very aggressive sales tactics. I couldn't leave fast enough. They reminded me of time share sales sharks.

Last week we visited Las Vegas and while walking at the shopping area at the Paris hotel , we were stopped by a nice lady offering us a sample for skin care products, we could resist by trying it and ending up buying a full set of products. I'm taking one star off cus the price is a little bit high but the products itself and a service are really really pleasant and as told by a salesperson will last for a long time;) Definitely worth a try!!!! read more

Stay away!! Total scam. Get you inside then give you all kind of compliments to get to purchase. Talked me into buying a hand held device for my face for $1500. When I got it home, it would not charge! They replaced it with a unopened box product and same thing, would not charge. Then sent me a 3rd device of a different brand. This was different that what I purchased and asked for my money back. Back and forth with the Credit Card company for 5 months. FINALLY, credit card company has refunded my money. Total scam and I should have read about it before buying. Would have seen other people had same complaints. Cant believe the Paris Hotel has such a business in their hotel! read more

I was on vacation in Vages looking to buy something for my mom She has very sensitive skin so I was concerned about what should I get her The lady there (her name was Amit) she was so sweet and helping My mom loved it!! Great shopping experience read more

Update: I am adding two stars because I went into the store and the guy in there actually was willing to return the infrared device even though the receipt said no returns. He also offered that if I still wanted the device he would let me refund an earlier purchase of three facial products for $270 but without making me return any the products, even offering a nice Vitamin C cream as an additional perk/bribe. So in the end I got four facial products and the infrared device for $600 plus shipping. Still more money than I ever wanted to spend on my face but I feel less upset than I did when the total was $900. Also, their customer service line did call me back ... repeatedly. I have now received the device and after just the second treatment I have to say it really does seem to be making a rapid difference with my wrinkles and scarring. It also helped my achy knees and my husband's ankle-- and I'm using it to speed up the healing of a few little cuts I have. The other products also seem to be quite nice too, though I agree there is a pretty small amount of product given the price point. I ended up with the anti-wrinkle "syringe", the peel-off mask, the lifting cream, and the vitamin c cream. The only one I probably won't use is the lifting hydration cream since the perfume is quite strong for me and it's a thicker lotion than I like to put on my face. (I'm prone to acne). But the other products are quite nice and I'll be using them for sure. I still disagree with their sales tactics and don't trust a word their sales people say. But if you're feeling ripped off, the company does seem to care about their customers being happy, so call them, or better yet, go back to the store. read more

These people are horrible! They have insulted my mom BOTH in West Yellowstone and Vegas now at the Paris Hotel... she told them off for being so rude- telling her she had sun damage, baggy eyes, lines etc. and they continued to try to get her t try their eye cream! They just want you to buy their scammy products but insulting people is NOT the way to do that. {they did give her a free face wash but honestly after being so rude it was not enough to get a better review} read more

Beware! I was just staying in the Paris hotel here in Vegas and saw these guys. The setup is exactly the same as one I fell for in Los Angeles a few years ago in the Westgate Mall ( in Century City ). They will cajole you/lure you/suck you into coming into the place by offering free samples of stuff. They lured my wife in; I sat outside. 4 minutes later I was getting called in at the request of my wife. They are putting creams under your eyes and in your skin; showing you photographs; telling you they are getting referrals from dermatologists who don't think botox is necessarily the best treatment for every case of wrinkles...etc. All 100% lies. They work you relentlessly as a team and exhaust you until you just want to get out of there. Expensive "masks", creams, etc. Very much, almost identical marketing to "Onson" or "Onsen" cosmetics ( cannot remember the name ). I have seen similar scam artists rent expensive retail space in many malls in other vacation spots. STAY AWAY! Honestly, if you want to buy expensive products, go to a reputable dermatologist...at least the products will work without outlandish BS claims. STAY AWAY from ANY mall or hotel kiosks that have someone standing outside waving free samples or offering free samples or free "test" treatments. Obviously you would assume it's kind of a scam, and it is...but the extent of the scam and the amount of money they will take you for is unbelievable. In the thousands if you have a credit card with enough on your limit. STAY AWAY! read more

Run from this place like the plague. The sales people are pushy and their products are a scam. They claim To be giving you an amazing deal but they are selling you crap maybe even dangerous products. They gave me an allergic reaction. Plus there is a no refund policy and no real way of contacting anybody. You are better pff spending your money at a reputable name brand store. If only I could turn back time I never would have even looked their way. read more

've been visiting at this store the other week. Must say that the staff was very attentive and polite. They recommend me their eye cream.. fell in love with it. No more dark circles ! this one is a rock star! Definitely gonna visit there soon!!!! Highly recommended! read more

I purchased their full range of products while in Vegas, quite a large sum of money was spent. As I was checking out the young lady that helped me asked for my email address as she would send me instructions on how and when to use the products. I'm still waiting for the email. I can figure out for myself how to use them but wish she had done as she promised. I left the store and was grabbed by another woman offering me a sample of what I had just purchased. still had the bag with me. I declined telling her no thank you. It's free why don't you want it? I pointed to the bag and said I think I have enough at this point, she dropped her free sample in my bag and walked off, saying nothing. Proceeded thru the mall area to try and exit when another young girl grabbed me with another free sample. I told her I had already had the Agora experience pointing to the bag. Her comment was that I should have had them do both sides of my face. Very insulted, I told her both sides were done. Again, she walked away without comment. Based on her comment I was quite concerned about the money I had just spent. The first store was amazing and I felt confident as I left, needless to say the confidence deteriorated as I walked thru the mall. read more

Beware. I felt quite uncomfortable in this store, and felt very pressured into purchasing from them. Luckily from reading the reviews after and googling them I'm glad I didn't. So I thought I'd share my experiences here too. I was walking past this place on Thursday and saw someone stood outside in the corner of my eye trying to get my attention, which I ignored and walked past. Or at least tried to. As I was nearly past, this person shouted across the walkway after me, which made me think maybe I'd dropped something, but they were just calling me over to give me a free sample. Usually I don't take samples, but was a bit off-guard so went to take it and continue walking past, only he didn't let go of the sample. Instead he talked me into coming inside under the premise that he had another sample he wanted to give me. He said he saw me coming a mile away (I'm sure he did..!) He then went onto apply eye cream to one of my eyes. He asked me where I was from, and after I said London he went on to tell me that this brand of skincare is VERY popular in America (false) and that online it's more expensive than in their store (true). He showed me a mirror to see the difference, of which I didn't see any, but for whatever reason I agreed. He told me it retailed for $1000+ He then applied a chemical peel product to my hand, which began to congeal on my hand and look like it was removing dead cells from my hand, but honestly I think it was just the cream reacting with the air. The only difference I saw between the two hands was that the treated hand looked slightly paler than the other. He said this product retailed for $199. He then went on to show me a before and after photo of a man which looked as though it had been photoshoped. I felt quite uncomfortable in the chair as there were too many compliments being made that I just knew to be untrue, as well as pointing out flaws that are "showing my age" but that their products would fix, and just felt like anything was being said to make a sale. Ive flown over 12 hours, am jet lagged AND am in Vegas, so of course my skin is dehydrated and suffering from it all. I think he could sense my discomfort, so he said if I promised not to tell anyone, he'd sell both products to me for $199. After seeing my expression, he then offered to throw in a cleanser for free as well, but that the offer was only open until 4pm as then he had to leave (it was 3.30pm). I asked if he was working tomorrow as I needed to speak to my boyfriend (really I just wanted to leave politely), and he said no, and that only he could offer me that price. He then tried to get me to just buy one of the things, and I said I still needed to speak to my bf as he has my cards (not true, but eanted to leave). He said for me to call him in the store, I said I'd go out to look for him in the casino and then left the shop for good. I felt so pressured the whole time, and felt like everything being said to me was false. I went on to check reviews, and I'm so glad I did as they all line up with my experience. Shockingly (not) I saw him working there the next day! I can't comment fully on the product, however I saw absolutely no difference, and agree with one review that said their eye felt like they'd applied glue to it. I can comment, however, on the service I received and I do not trust their sales staff in the slightest. Therefore I do not trust their product. And so many reviews mention more issues after purchasing, so steer clear of this place entirely to be safe! read more

Staying at The Paris and while walking to our room was approached by a very nice looking man wanting to give me a free skin care sample and somehow talked me into entering the store. The people there were very nice...the girl applied a product to one of my eyes that did indeed tighten it up... however, when she, the esthetician, told me they were closing to remodel at 4:00 and that I could only get the great price of 199.00 instead of 1500.00 if I purchased before 4:00 I lost all respect. Did she think I was stupid? You lie...I don't buy!! I was also told the tightening product she put under my eye would last for an entire week making me look 10 yrs younger. It wore off before the next morning....the store was beautiful, and no remodeling took place the entire time we were there.... just say NO! read more

The service is great. Mechelle was kind, understanding and patient. Customer service doesn't get any better. The products arr great as well.

Everybody in here was supper sweet- I have read a lot of reviews about the sales people being pushy- but how else are they going to get us to set down in the chair?? It was totally worth it- their products work AMAZING as in instant results! You won't regret it! read more

Terrible customer service. They were extremely rude and wouldn't help me. I tried to buy a bottle of perfume and the salesman wouldn't come to the counter. I asked for assistance multiple times and they kept saying they'll be over soon. I waited there for 10 minutes and no one would help me check out. read more

So , I visited perfume de Paris around Christmas time, and as everyone else described here, I was offered a sample of a cream and then they offered to come into the store which I refused. But! The same night I tried their cream and it felt really nice, so I came back the day after to buy it. A nice girl welcomed me and patiently explained to me about their products and their LED light machine which I ended up buying. It took a couple of months before I saw the results but after two months I started getting compliments on my skin from everyone I know. Overall great, relaxing and rejuvenating experience, Thank you Perfume De Paris ! read more

I've tried so many products but by far have I found something so great! I give agora products 5 stars and the customer service was very professional they really helped me to get what I needed. I'm so happy I came in. read more

I came to the Paris Hotel and I met a delightful person, who put some interesting mixtures on my face, and now I'm told I look 20 years younger. This person is Fray, who works at Perfume De Paris. If you want to get some high-quality, personal handling, check her out read more

Why isn't there a negative star? This place will have you mortgage your house to buy their skin care line. Run for the hills. Their "customer service" email is fake, customer phone line is a message service. The Bureau of business should keep an eye on them, they have the makings of a con-routine. Run, don't be tricked into going inside or you might not come out financially the same. read more

Pushy rude sales people who insult guests at the Paris Hotel as they pass by. We stayed at the Paris and will not go back because of the insults (With a big smile btw), from the employees of Perfume. We tried to avoid them at all costs. No one should feel that way when paying for a vacation stay at a nice hotel. read more

My husband and I were early to a reservation to Gordon Ramsay Steak and stopped in here so I could buy perfume. I was accosted by Adam at the door who told me I had great soon and asked what I used. I knew it was the start of a sales pitch, but I didn't mind because I could have been talked into trying something new. However, Adam soon pointed out that I was puffy. He did apologize and let me know he wasn't trying to be rude but it was true. I'm sorry, but unless you're my gay bff please don't call me puffy. As he sat me in a chair to try a product on me, he was kind enough to point out that my husband was also puffy. He asked if we had kids and asked if it was by choice. We said yes. He then put on a sales pitch about how having kids means that when one person dies the other person won't be alone because they'll have kids. So in the end I didn't buy anything and left offended. My face felt stiff for the rest of the night as if I had put glue on it. read more

I have bought several different fragrances from them. For this I have received many different samples of products that they sell. They also send many different specials or discounts off of the products that they know that I like. They are a super place to buy from. read more

Had a 130 appt for a facial. I was wearing the collagen and he said their product could help me. Honey, I was wearing your product and it did not erase a forehead line. Backtracking with your stupid italian accent is as fake as your product. read more

What a beautiful boutique! I was offered to try their fragrances and I knew I'm a believer. Personally when I'm shopping, I look for two things: a great product and a great vibe, and what a good feeling to get to know Perfume De Paris! I assure you: once you tried their products, you will look nowhere else period. read more

Great products and extremely knowledgeable employees. Every time i stop by to buy some face products it's always a great experience, highly recommended, they sell great products read more

Pushy sales people and a NO REFUND policy on their products. I purchased product that caused burns to my face and the best I was offered was an exchange. I wouldn't send my worst enemy to this place. Avoid this store at all costs. read more

My mom, and I recently stayed at Paris Las Vegas. The first day we passed Perfume De Paris a sales person came out of store and tried to sell to us we said no thank you. The second day at around 9pm I was walking my mom back to our room holding her up because she was having trouble breathing and a man sales rep again came out of store and age I we said no thank you. He yelled at me and said he was talking to my mom. I again said no thank you. He kept pushing. I asked his name he refused, I said don't mess with me he said oh I'm so scared there's nothing you can do to me. So after I got my mom to room i called a manager and told them. I was told they would call me back. The next night I went downstairs and talked to a manager who was nice and said they've had several complaints and have seen them in action. I was told again someone would call. The next day I did get a call not by Paris but by the Perfume manager who apologized and then tried to sell the product again. We never stepped foot in that store. I'm very disturbed by the way we were treated. read more

November 6, 2018 While vacationing in Las Vegas with my husband, we were walking through The Paris hotel/casino and were ushered into PERFUME DE PARIS by someone handing out samples of a product. I was actually in the market for a new perfume, so we decided to go in. Immediately, a young lady, who later told me her name was FRAY, came up and asked how we were, and told me she could help with the puffiness under my eyes. Interested, and being a little familiar with the science behind the current craze of puffiness reducing eye serums, I decided to let her show me. My husband and I both sat down and she proceeded to apply the serum to one eye on each of us. And sure enough, it worked. She didn't tell me how much it was, she just spoke positively, quickly, and right in my face. She told me how great we both looked and that I only needed to use the serum 3 times/month for the first month and then once a month after that. Next thing I know we have 3 products in hand and a receipt for $433 ($400-products, $33-tax). So after lunch we went back for a promised "free facial." Fray sat us both down and proceeded to show me a video "on their website" (which, by the way, doesn't exist) of this "FDA Approved" infrared facial wand that is "so powerful" that it should be used no more than once a month, and started putting several different lotions (exfoliator, Gold neck cream, some mask and who know what else) on my husband and me, and wiping it off and then using the wand. Her power of suggestion had me actually believing that I was seeing IMMEDIATE changes to our skin!! With the little bit of information I DID know about skin care, she used that to influence me. And she said I needed to use "a year's worth" of these creams with the wand and then I didn't need the creams ever again. Just the wand. Which, by the way, had a LIFETIME GUARANTEE. She said I could even pass it down to my relatives in my will. Totally didn't make sense, but I was in Las Vegas, and in a state of temporary suspension of disbelief. I was on vacation! They count on that! She also wanted my husband to be able to benefit, she "threw in" ANOTHER year's worth of the same lotions/creams. So I looked at my husband and he said go ahead and get it if that's what I wanted. It was going to be around $2500. At that point I was so caught up that I said okay, even though that was a chunk of money. But two years' worth of product and the FDA approved wand with the lifetime guarantee must be worth it. I opted to have the items shipped to my house. I gave the girl my American Express, she ran it through and had me sign a blank line with my finger on an iPad. I didn't ask what the total was or ask to see before I signed. I just signed a blank line on a little iPad. Back at the hotel I decided to look at the products I had bought earlier. I looked at my receipt for the other bigger purchase I had made. She had said the items would be FedEx shipped to me and I wanted to check and see if there was an ETA. As I looked at the receipt I first noticed that none of the items had prices listed. I also noticed that the total price had jumped from the $2500 price to $4830. I was dumbfounded. And it also just listed one final price. No subtotal, no tax, as the first receipt had shown. I immediately called the number listed on the receipt and card Fray had given me. It was an answering service who said they would "pass the message along." Then, to my horror, I noticed at the bottom of the receipt that there were no returns and no refunds. I freaked out and called American Express right away. I told them what had just happened, and that I wanted to dispute the charge on my card. They asked me to please call the merchant and try to work it out with them, which I told him I did. Once I got an email from Federal Express giving me a tracking number, I immediately called Federal Express and told them that I did not want the package delivered to my home. They said that they could cancel the shipment and have it returned to the original location from which it came. So in my mind, it's not even a matter of no returns no refunds. It is simply a canceled purchase. THEY REFUSED THE RETURN OF THEIR PRODUCT THAT WAS NEVER DELIVERED. At this point I had proof that I never received the package and therefore was not responsible for any purchase. This company uses unethical sales tactics, is not transparent at all about their pricing, and they trick you into purchasing products you don't want and you pay way more than what they are worth. What I have a problem with is the company and how they take advantage of vacationers they know will never be able to bring their products back once they get them home. I hope my story helps even one person, but my bigger hope is that the Nevada Attorney General does some digging and puts a stop to their unethical, scam artist sales tactics. read more

This place is amazing ! They have great products and great customer service. I highly recommend!

We were in Las Vegas on vacation. On the main floor of the Paris Hotel is a store called Perfume de Paris. Outside the store, salespeople offering free lotion samples. It was around 10:00 p.m. and I was tired after a long day of activities and unbearable heat, so I happily agreed to come into the store to try out some other products. The salesperson, Chanel, applied Hermetise Yubari King Wrinkle Eraser under my eye. It worked instantly with amazing results! I really liked the product and was genuinely interested since I had been trying to find a product like this for so long. She also applied Hermetise Professional Collagen Peeling Mask, a facial product, on the back of my hand to demonstrate its properties, and I was very pleased with how soft and smooth my skin was afterwards. Chanel was a very good salesperson and I was impressed with the products, so I purchased them. She included an Agora Code de Vie Lifting Eye Cream free with purchase. Since we were leaving Las Vegas the next day, I didn't open the products until I got home. While the packaging appeared to be the same as the product Chanel used, the product in the wrinkle eraser tube definitely wasn't the same. I thought maybe I was applying it incorrectly -- maybe too much or not enough -- so I applied it on 4 or 5 different occasions adjusting the amount of product each time. But nothing I did made any difference. It was not creamy or smooth like the product Chanel applied; rather, it was drying and felt like slightly damp clay, and the results were nothing like the instant results I had in the store. Likewise, when I tried the peeling mask, it did not work the same as it had in the store. It was rather harsh and gritty and the results were no where near the same as in the store. I was very disappointed and quite angry. I thought I had fallen for a bait & switch whereby the legitimate products were tried on my skin in the store but the fake products were placed in my bag yet being charged for the real thing. And since I was now back home, it's not like I could return to the store to complain. Chanel had placed a business card in my bag with an email address to contact if I had any questions or problems. Since I believed everything was now fake, I didn't expect the email address to be legitimate either, but I still wrote a rather heated email and sent it to that address anyhow. And that's where things turned around! Within a day I had a response from a customer service representative named Mechelle. She was absolutely amazing!! Turns out it wasn't a bait & switch but rather a problem with faulty products. Mechelle went above and beyond to regain my trust and confidence. She was an absolute delight to deal with! She gave me the option of a full refund or shipping new products to me. Since I really did like the products that I had tried in the store, I opted for the latter. She shipped out new products to me, free of charge, to replace the faulty products and I received them the following week. I have never had such an amazing customer service experience before! Thank you, Mechelle! I believe this company has several locations in Las Vegas as well as other US cities. My advice to you is: if you like these products when they are applied on you in the store, open the boxes they place in your bag while you're still in the store. Make sure they are the correct products and work as you expect them to. I could have saved myself a ton of headaches if only I had done my due diligence in the store by opening the boxes. Lesson learned! But if you do have any problems with your products, I hope you are fortunate enough to reach Mechelle, cuz she'll definitely fix it for you! read more

If there was a way to rate this shop as a negative star, I would choose this option. To start, the staff is extremely rude and condescending. As I walked past, a representative asked to give me a free sample and I politely declined. At that point - he blatantly called me a "Mary Kay Consultant"!!! When my sister, who was with me, returned and asked to speak to the management - the manager stated that I must have misunderstood his employee's comment. That they call ALL girls "Mary Kate and Ashley" as a term of endearment. So not true!!!! This leads me to believe that management have this prepared statement ready for anybody who complains about this demeaning comment. Very unprofessional and will never get one dime of mine! read more

Beware of the VERY high pressure sales people in this establishment. As you walk by the shop they accost you trying to get you to take samples and they will not take "No Thank You" as a response. Then while my husband was waiting for me, they got him in the store and pressured him into buying almost $300 in product. When I took the product back for a refund, the sales person told my that I was rude and accused me of screaming - which I did not. She made several accusations against me - it was crazy! I thought the customer was always right? She was not nice to me because she lost a $300 sale. Their manipulative hard core sales tactics and lack of good customer service reflect badly on my experience at the Paris Hotel! read more

I just want to share my experience with this place and products. My salesman was Adam. I wasn't planning to buy anything, just to get my daughter who stumbled into this place. This place sells high end skincare products, i mean very expensive, not really for an average Jane like me. Adam definitely knows the product line, Agora and Hermetise, and doesn't give up easily. If sales is your line of work and you need to make that commission to live, then you better be good at it. He was rather entertaining and i actually thought him funny. But truly, I found I couldn't focus on what he was saying due to the fact that I was marveling at how soft my skin felt and seeing my facial lines disappear. I've used alot of different products and never seen instant results like this. Adam has a passion for the Agora and Hermetise skincare lines and I was immediately taken with how good my skin felt with a single use of the products he used on my face! It was definitely surprising and delightful! Also he made us a deal we couldn't refuse, and I'm not kidding! Check out the skincare online website, i was shocked when i saw how much they sell online! I could never afford them and will never be able to buy these products again, but I'm so very grateful for Adam's generous deal. Both my daughter and I are using it and she was suffering with sun spots and has rosacea. Both of our skin feel super soft and look radiant. we both have very sensitive skin and have had no problems. Also my daughter's sun spots are almost gone and its only been 1 1/2 weeks of use. A little goes a long way. The product websites don't give a list if ingredients, which is a shame but perhaps they don't what to give away the formula, who knows. I don't think they would stay in business if the product line was junk. read more

Amazing service! The employees really take the time to match the product that works best for your skin type. My skin is glowing after just one facial treatment!! Friends have also recommended these products to me read more

We bought products on January 10 at the cost of nearly 2K with the assurance my products would be shipped. Now it's February 3 & I and husband have contact the customer service line numerous times with no follow up. I'm now having to take serious action against this company. Their products promised good results but it's definitely not worth the grief we've experienced to TRY to get them read more

I stopped by while on vacation looking for a gift for my mom. The salesperson was so nice! She showed me many perfumes, and took time to find the one I liked. She then gave me at least 10 free samples, So generous. She wasn't pushy and the price reasonable for vegas! read more

My friend and I walked by and said no thank you to a free sample. When we passed again and said no thank you, the young man (who obviously thought he was "it") said to my friend "ok, Mary Kay consultant". I went back to the store to talk to the manager about the rude remark, and a different young man said we must had misunderstood, because whenever they see two blonde women, they respond "ok, Mary Kate and Ashlee". When I said that was not what was said, he said we had misunderstood and said it was not meant to offend. I would never buy from this store, even if it was the greatest skin care on the planet! read more

My husband and I stopped in the store...we were window shopping....and the man there said I had puffy eyes and he had a product that could make the puffiness go away immediately. So he applied it to one eye and it did work! Then he applied it to the other and packaged up a kit for us....My husband (not knowing the cost of cosmetics) paid almost $400.00 for eye cream and they added cleanser and moisturizer...which I didn't need or want... When my husband handed me the bag I was shocked by the price. We said oh well...if it works and it is good.. We left and within 20 minutes were were back because my eyes were burning. I asked the salesman to take off the eye cream he had applied and take back the products. He removed the eye cream and my eyes felt better. However, he said we had to "deal directly with the company" to return the products. I came home from Las Vegas and made THREE attempts before I was able to get someone to actually email me the form that I had to fill out about my experience. I immediately filled it out and faxed it back with the receipts. Tonight I received an email saying that they don't give refunds but I could exchange the products! What a rip off! Typical of the Vegas rip offs that you read about. I am stuck with $400.00 worth of cosmetics that burn my face....and no recourse except to tell everyone that will listen or read...DO NOT GO NEAR THIS PLACE! read more