I love this gym! I am only paying about 24 bucks a month for me and I can bring a guest for free. This is totally the place if you need a buddy to keep you accountable and go with you to work out. I like that there are plenty of tv monitors near the cardio area with local channels like ABC, NBC, CNN, etc. and you can hook into the audio of them with your earbuds. There are so many cardio machines, I've never had to wait for one. They have a variety of weight machines, too. The thing that makes this place stand out over other gyms is that they also have a watr massage chairs, regular massage chairs, and tanning booths. What? Yep, you read correctly. If you get the highest membership (which is what I have) you can use those, too. There is a time limit on them but it's still pretty cool. They keep the place fairly clean and have sprays and napkins for users to wipe down their machines when they are done with them. I also really appreciate that they emphasize that this is a no judgement zone...all people and all bodies are welcome! The people working here will help you figure a machine out if you don't know how to use one, too. You won't find any aerobics here but I used to be a member of LA Fitness and they never had classes that I wanted at the right times. Anyway, check this place out! read more

Planet Fitness - Planet fitness gym - Gyms Near Me - Austin, Texas

Gym is full of old people and teenagers who sit around chatting. Theres sometimes a line of people waiting for the hydromassage chairs because the old people want to sit together and get massaged. You get what you pay for here. At least the bathrooms are clean? read more

I like this location. The equipment is spaced out enough for plenty of people to do rotation without having to wait for a machine. The staff is nice and knowledgeable, and it's not expensive to be a black card member with so many perks! My favorite perk is the Hydromassage chairs. After a long work week and not feeling the best, this was the perfect end to it all. read more

Planet Fitness - Hydromassage - Gyms Near Me - Austin, Texas

100000000 times better than Crunch Fitness because they don't allow ice agents in their building via a memo. They have lots of equipment and I throughly enjoy this gym. read more

Really nice planet fitness, the gym is clean and well maintained. I don't know if this is a newer planet fitness but it is nice and still looks new. I do have to say the hydro massage had a weird smell so I'll leave it at that and hopefully I'll be honest next time. Much better than Albuquerque New Mexico which had broken showers except for 1. read more

Planet Fitness - Fitness area - Gyms Near Me - Austin, Texas

There are a lot of friendly people who work there. I am handicap and they got rid of machines I could use!! I wish they would consider! It!!! Please! Help me out soon. read more

If you care about decent customer service, DO NOT GET A MEMBERSHIP at Planet Fitness, especially at the Slaughter location. If you are just into SOLO workouts on a very affordable monthly pricing, with no communication with the folks working at the front counter, and you're OK with being on a year commitment to a contract, then, PF is for you. On 03/25, I signed up for the PF Black Card membership (2 days ago from the day I write this review) and the first training class I signed up for, Stretching, on 03/26, did not happen. Apparently, the trainer was unaware than I signed up for this. After 15 minutes of waiting for him to appear at the front desk, he showed up with a look of annoyance and asked me to reschedule for the next day (03/27) at the specific time that he stated was his only availability, and behold, the very next day, the day of my rescheduled stretching class, I received an automatic system email informing me that both training classes I had signed up were abruptly cancelled with no explanation. I called PF customer service and inquired of the cancellation process. I was told that I am able to cancel within a 72 hour grace period with no penalty and full refund. I immediately drove to PF and requested to cancel my membership. There were two people at the front desk, one seemed like a new employee receiving training from the other employee. It wasn't until I spoke up and clarified that I was on a 72 hour grace period and expected a full refund that I was met with expressions of confusion. The manager was called to the front desk and finally took care of it. The online Twitter drama is not the reason PF is losing customers, they are doing it all on their own. read more

Waited at the counter for 10 minutes for someone to show up only to find out once again that they only have 1 working tanning booth and it is booked. Don't count on this "benefit" being readily available at Slaughter lane because that is rarely the case. Went in today Feb 18 at 9:30 to tan and EVERY tanning bed was down because of a wifi issue. I asked Aleyssa to cancel my membership and she did with the promise of no cancelation charges or fees. This is easily the worst ran fitness gym I have ever seen. No apologies or concerns that none if their tanning beds are usable. read more

Planet Fitness - Avoid this location at all costs and do not sign any contract for this gum - Gyms Near Me - Austin, Texas

I've been working out at this planet fitness for years and the facilities are pretty good in my opinion. They have a nice lineup of 3 or 4 smith machines in the corner which are my favorite, plus a large assortment of other individual machines. They have a fleet of treadmills, even at busy times I have never had to wait to use a treadmill. Lots of stationary bikes too, a full free weight area with several benches, and a timed exercise area where you can get in on a weight/machine in the circle and you go to the next one when the light changes. If you are the primary subscriber they give you tokens to use the fluid massage bed or the massage chairs too. Locker room is also spacious and reasonably clean; I have never used the shower though. Overall I think planet fitness has a good set up. I loved their prior $10/month full access subscriptions, it was a bummer when they raised the price but it's still a good gym. read more

This post centers around the issue of crime. To any individuals considering joining a new gym, I STRONGLY ADVISE AGAINST GETTING A MEMBERSHIP at Planet Fitness, particularly at this location. Similarly, for current members of this gym, I URGE YOU TO REASSESS YOUR MEMBERSHIP at Planet Fitness and specifically at this location. If there was a way to give zero or negative stars for Planet Fitness as a company and this particular location, I would give it without question. I've been a member at this Planet Fitness location for just three months. Up until this past Saturday, I've had a positive experience overall. However, on Saturday, I experienced theft on the premises. It's important to note that this theft wasn't carried out by another member or an Planet Fitness employee but by an external individual - and suspected criminal - who should never have had access beyond check in to members only space in the first place. This person trespassed onto the premises by slipping past Planet Fitness staff at the front entrance check-in in broad daylight during a non-busy day and time at the gym, as captured on security cameras and confirmed by the club manager. They entered the men's locker room, stole personal belongings in the form of a wallet and car key, and left undetected by the same staff responsible for enforcing security protocols to ensure only paying members have access to the gym floor and locker rooms. That day, I forgot to bring my lock to the locker room, which is something that can happen to anyone. There was a low number of people in the gym - as indicated by Planet Fitness's own app - and I decided to store my bag in a locker for a workout for this one-time occurrence. Other members have stored their belongings in similar ways. Upon my return, I discovered that my wallet and keychain, containing my car and house keys, had been stolen from my bag in the locker room. While my car remained untouched in the parking lot, the thief proceeded to make fraudulent purchases in the Menchaca Rd. area using my credit/debit cards. Fortunately, I quickly received alerts about the unauthorized transactions and promptly closed the compromised cards. That night, for the sake of safety and security, I had to re-key my entire home. Additionally, I'll need to re-key and re-program my vehicle because the suspected criminal now has access to a compromised key, which should never have fallen into their hands had they not been allowed entry into Planet Fitness in the first place. Following the incident, I filed a police report with the Austin Police Department. I included a photo of the suspect, provided by one of the businesses affected by the fraudulent spending. I reached out to Planet Fitness Global HQ to report the crime and to request cooperation with the APD's investigation. While a case number was assigned by member services for escalation, there has been no progress toward a suitable resolution at the global HQ level from the executive team. This lack of action and suitable remedy is astounding given that Planet Fitness had failed to uphold its agreement to ensure that only authorized individuals enter the gym premises. The club manager and Austin regional club manager have shifted all blame onto me via email. In response to the crime, the resulting psychological distress, and the subsequent financial burdens incurred, I was offered a mere three months of free membership, valued at $32.50 including tax. This offer fails to address the severity of the situation -- a crime that could have been prevented had Planet Fitness fulfilled its responsibility and prevented the unauthorized entry of a non-member whose sole intent was to trespass and commit further crimes. The cost of re-keying my home amounts to $180, while re-keying my car totals $1635. These consequential expenses highlight the inadequacy of the remedy offered (1.8% of the costs). I am still waiting for a suitable resolution regarding Planet Fitness's negligence in upholding security protocols leading to this crime - a major concern for customer and property safety. In the meantime, I cannot - in good faith or conscience - recommend Planet Fitness as a company or gym provider to any prospective future customer or current customer. It is a major risk to visit any Planet Fitness and they will not do anything to accept their responsibility in preventing crimes from being committed - even if it is entirely within their scope - or help in finding the appropriate solutions to restore member trust and confidence in their integrity at any level of the company's hierarchy. Please beware and please look elsewhere so you do not undergo the same resulting stress, denial of wrongdoing, and process of being cast aside as I have gone through with Planet Fitness and its embrace of incompetence leading to crimes - especially this one that was entirely within its control of being prevented. read more

The membership is affordable and there's a lot of perks too. Like massage chairs, tanning, being able to bring a guest, and I can go to other planet fitness gyms when I'm traveling. I also LOVE how there's so many squat racks at the Austin (Slaughter Lane), TX location. read more

Back in the day my husband and I were members of Planet Fitness in Rosenberg, Texas but now we are members in South Austin. It's a very clean workout facility. EVERYONE, I mean everyone wipes down the machines, working out areas like clockwork. Very respectful individuals exercise here. There is absolutely NO judgment vibes coming from anyone, as well. I love that. FYI: we love the Assistant Manager. She helped us BIG TIME with fixing our old account. We are now indebted to her. The other staff always greets us with a smile and wishes us a GOOD WORKOUT. Love the added personal touch. I requested assistance with the tanning booth and after a quick tutorial, I felt better about it. The parking is never an issue and the monthly fee is amazing! Go sign up today! read more

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this gym is located at 183 and Lamar in Austin. this summer when temps outside were over 100 they had NO AIR CONDITIONING!! All summer long it was out!! Now the bathrooms are out and they have portables that are never restocked or serviced!! DO NOT JOIN THIS LOCATION!! No one seems in a hurry to get anything fixed. Bathrooms have not been worked on in over a month. Without a way to wash your hands you would think the hand sanitizers would be filled. read more

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The staff is always friendly. The machines and locker rooms are clean and well maintained.

I am extremely disappointed in how Planet Fitness handled a man taking my photo. I gave them the exact time and date that it happened to review their cameras. I left my information twice without a single call or any follow up from management. Do better. read more

I've come to this location three different Sunday's now to work out with a friend. Two out of the three times, there was nobody there for the 7:00 opening until 8. It's bad enough that the gym isn't open 24 hours on the weekends but it's deflating to get yourself to the gym only to turn around and have to go elsewhere for an hour. read more

I would not recommend this gym location. About a month ago, I accidentally left my headphones at the front desk. After searching for them at home for a week and a half without success, I tracked their last location and found out it was at Planet Fitness. When I called, the person on the line acknowledged that they had my headphones, which are valued at $500, and mentioned how expensive they were. After checking, however, she told me they were gone. I couldn't understand how that was possible if they were supposed to be in the lost and found. It seems likely that a staff member took them. A friend who works there informed me that employees were "calling dibs" on my headphones, which is incredibly frustrating considering they are my property. I also learned that the last person to handle them was the assistant manager, who plugged them in to charge and then found them missing upon returning. This situation is very disappointing and reflects poorly on the gym's integrity. I would advise against visiting this Planet Fitness or any other location in the chain. read more

Very clean and well maintained. The staff is friendly and the club members are considerate towards each other. Also it is not overcrowded so you can get on a machine when you need to without having to wait. The BEST part is that hardly anyone is sitting on machines scrolling through their phones while others are waiting. read more

I loved this gym and been a member for several years. After the coronavirus, we decided to freeze or cancel our membership until a later time and until we feel comfortable. I sent an email to PF and the reply was to either send them a certified letter by mail or go in person to the gym to fill out a form. Both options defeat the purpose of trying to avoid exposure. Is this their way of strong-arming members into staying? Are they that desperate? read more

I have been coming here for over a month now. I am not a fan of Planet Fitness at all. So you ask, why do I still go here? Well my friends let me give you a brief background of me and my situation. I am a gym rat for over ten plus years. I developed a love for boxing and kickboxing and had an injury last year that meant I had to have surgery on my knee. Worst day ever for me. My knee surgery allowed me in January to go back to the gym but with limitations. I can only do certain cardio machines and lift weights. I decided to freeze my current gym membership at my gym to save a few bucks and also get more equipment at Planet Fitness to workout within my parameters. So what do I get? Pros: - a decent amount of equipment I can use within my physical limitations at the moment. They have elliptical, stair climbs, treadmills, and bikes. Not sure where they hide the row machines and or the arm bike machine (I don't know the technical name but it is the machine where you use pedals for your arms) - a comical routine to watch of people who have no clue how to use cardio or strength training equipment. You can youtube dumba$$ people at the gym to see what I am talking about -they are cheap AF Cons - why the hell does a gym have tootsie rolls everywhere? People will eat them and leave the wrappers EVERYWHERE. I found them in machines, near the AB/stretching mats, bathrooms and even in the parking lots. WTF?!?! - screw the lunk alarm. This alarm is set off when people grunt super loud when lifting weights. I vow to set that off before I leave the gym - Tanning. Who the hell still tans? Ummm..helllo... skin cancer anyone!?!! Horrible thing to promote...but wouldn't expect less in a gym that provides tootsie rolls to their patrons - Hmmm so lets add to the tootsie rolls....pizza and bagels. Yes, this is something you can expect at least 1x a month. -the judgment free zone is a joke. I am judging you at the gym and to be honest almost everyone else is too - The elderly love this place and love to socialize here. I am on the page of the gym is not a social zone. I get in and get out enough said read more

Planet Fitness - Want to set this off!!! - Gyms Near Me - Austin, Texas

Update... the millennials are on their phone constantly!!! When they finish a exercise... they just sit there on their phone. If you say anything, they get pissed and start whining. They don't understand that u use a machine and step off. Ridiculous. Old review...The equip. is good. The employees are pretty good. It's pretty clean. The problem... and it's major... are the members in this area. The demographic is pretty scary. People that are scary that use a machine... and instead of getting up until next set... they sit there on their phone. And if u approach to get in... they want to fight you. Total underdeveloped. Sad. read more

The current staff actually monitors the "30-minute Workout" area to see that it is being used as intended and is not being used as a proprietary workout area by someone that uses that same machine for 10 minutes or longer. Previous staff and other Planet Fitness that I have visited don't do this,....so Kudos! read more

Awesome 24hr facility! I've been coming here for about a month now and the gym has been nothing but excellent. The staff is always friendly and helpful. $20/month for a Black Card lets me take in a guest anytime I want, 1/2 price drinks, and use any gym in the United States. Plus, Unlimited usage of the Massage Chairs & Hydro-bed. There are Rush Hour times when the place gets extremely busy almost too crowded (around 5pm) but other than that, it's pretty chill. I normally come in the morning before work, and the gym is always Spotless Clean. I wanna say it's probably only busy right now because it's the 1st month of the year, same stuff happens at the last gym I used to work out at. Although my perfection complexion doesn't require me to use Tanning beds, but there are 2 horizontal beds and 1 vertical one. :) Restroom Area: Constantly kept clean. read more

I have been absent from the gym due to COVID-19. In that time they swapped out many of the machines. I can't figure out how to select a work out. The front desk was clueless on how to help when I asked last week. The app is worthless on getting the information. In fact I can't even locate anywhere on the app to learn, because it isn't there read more

Everytime I go, I feel like I'm comparing it to the Riverside location, which isn't necessarily fair. There are things that are better than riverside, and things that I don't like as much. Overall, it's still a Planet Fitness - plenty of cardio machines, 30 minute workout, tanning, massage beds, all for an affordable price. Better than riverside: More weights. There are more benches, more free weights, and more space for all of this. There's an actual bench press, which riverside doesn't have. They actually try to remind you that the 30 minute express is for circuit training only ( I don't like the layout though - the boxes are all in a square in the center of the different machines, making it kind of maze-like. Just stick with the most easily accessible box, otherwise you'll waste time trying to go by the numbers) Less creeps here. I primarily stopped going to the Riverside location because one time, a group of four guys was staring at me and another couple of girls while we were all working out in the same area. I am much uglier at the gym than I am in real life, I don't get it. I don't try to look cute at the gym. I want to slave away, with no social interaction, then I want to go home. At the Slaughter location, people seem to be more into their workouts than trying to meet (or stare at) people. There's a juice bar next door. I've been obsessed with green smoothies and juices for a while now, so it's great for right after a long workout. It's darker. I don't know why I like this, but I do. Not as good as riverside: It's not as spacious. I feel like everything is a bit more crammed together. Although the locker rooms have the same features as Riverside, they're not as new. They kind of feel like high school. The front deskers at Riverside are much friendlier. Not necessarily bad, just different. The ab/stretching section is a fraction of what you get at Riverside. Overall, I like both. Now that I've become more serious about weight training and am interested in more classes, I might outgrow Planet Fitness in general and look for a gym with something more to offer than smith machines and group fitness training, but for now, this is great for cardio and basic weight lifting. read more

Planet Fitness - This is what gets me to work out twice a day (I swear, it's the background on my phone). I hope it helps someone else too! - Gyms Near Me - Austin, Texas

The Planet Fitness on Slaughter is by far the best location in Austin. The employees are top notch - always welcoming, courteous, and making sure the gym is clean and in order. Their location is the most spacious and has the best selection of equipment. Thank you for allowing me to enjoy my fitness experience even more. Much appreciated. Please keep up the great work read more

Planet Fitness is a great value for the money. Staff are exceptionally personable and courteous. Gym is always clean and well maintained, as are the locker rooms and restrooms. It has enough gear to cover weightlifting essentials and plenty of cardio equipment. Lots of parking available and conveniently located. My experience there has been great so far and I expect the same in the future. read more

I have belonged to other gyms and paid a lot of money each month to not go. I have the 20 dollar a month membership and have been about 20 times in the last month since I joined. I have yet to use the tanning beds (I am kind of pale, I could use SOME color) and I have a massage therapist at home so I don't need the chairs. It can be crowed but go when they aren't as crowded (the provided a little chart of when they are least and most crowded). I don't have a child so I don't have to worry about child care and if I want something to drink they have limited choices but they have water and that is what I drink and with my membership I get half off. The staff is always friendly and the there is always parking. A great gym for a beginner or an experienced gym goer. My husband won't join because he tends to drop weights and grunt because of the weight he lifts so he knows he would be kicked out pretty quick because of the "lunk" alarm. read more

Everything you need in a gym at an excellent price, period. So why the negative reviews? Why, it's the sanctimonious crowd crowing about PF being open in the pandemic. The poor schleps who haven't left their apartment in a year other than cracking the door for the Door Dash guy, who are just about now certifiably insane. I'm hardly an anti-mask-Trump-crowd-idiot, but being in the medical field am crystal clear that if two people are wearing surgical masks (and not inches away from each other), their chances of getting the virus are virtually nonexistent. Sadly these folks' paranoia, fear, fatness, and complete waste of a year binging on Netflix are accentuated when they see others continuing to lead active, fulfilling lives. Well true pandemic or no pandemic. read more

At first i thought this might be one of those millennial "everyone gets a trophy" kind of places But it's not, it's just a "come on in and do your thing" kinda place and I kinda like it Subdued energy, lots of tvs and good music always playing Nice too that you don't see many roid warriors banging shit around and "Bro-ing out" on each other Great cordial staff right on top of everything New well maintained equipment and area Go for the black card membership definitely Free tanning and massage Clean locker room Buckets always filled to the brim with free tootsie rolls! Free Pizza Friday's and Bagel Tuesday's! Vending machines that sell protein bars and shakes Open 24 hours! So no excuses for this fat boy! Only issue I have is that the hot water in the showers doesn't really get that hot but overall I'm impressed and feel that this gym is a great value! read more

I have been attempting to get a customer service member on the phone for over a month now to freeze my membership during the pandemic. I've waited on hold for over an hour when my" wait time is less than 10 minutes". I enter my number to have someone return my call and no one has returned my call...ever! The phone number for all locations is the same. I'm reading now that they require you to cancel membership in person or by certified mail. What?! I had to read this on Yelp because the customer service for Planet Fitness is non-existent by phone. Shame on you, PF! Gyms should be closed now anyway, what is wrong with you? I'm currently on hold with my bank trying to stop my automatic payments to the gym. They're not worth chancing Covid-19. ---------- I just got a call back!! I was able to freeze my membership for 3 months over the phone but also took the additional step of cancelling automatic payments from my bank. I will assess the virus threat on November 9th to see if I want to continue at the gym. Be safe, everyone!! read more

I love coming to PF, the staff are awesome and my Trainer Jorge Fernandez is AMAZING!!! Thank for providing a SAFE AND JUDGEMENT FREE ZONE!!! read more

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Very good place to come workout never really crowded and machines are always working Nice friendly staff The dumb thing about this place is they make you check in twice to use any of their amenities, Which is mainly just an inconvenience to your workout Would give it 5 stars if they can get rid of the double check in procedure read more

Super friendly staff and you can't find a cheaper gym membership! I just wish they offered a class or two occasionally, like spin or Zumba :( Besides that, it's exactly what I need! read more

I love the motivating messages throughout the gym. The "no judgement" philosophy. The staff is super friendly, knowledgeable and encouraging. The gym is clean. I enjoy doing the "30-minute workout" located at the back of the gym. My favorite is the hydro-massage. read more

I was horrified--but not surprised--to get this email a few days ago: "We've missed you! After careful consideration and guidance from state officials that gyms are able to reopen, Planet Fitness Austin (Slaughter Lane), TX is excited to let you know that we're reopening on May 18. As always, the safety of our team and members is our top priority, and we've been working hard to get ready to welcome you back and provide you with the clean, sanitary, and judgement free workout experience you love. We cannot wait to see you!" CDC guidelines urge states that they need a fourteen-day decline in COVID cases before considering opening businesses. On May 17, Texas had 1,800 new cases--marking the largest single-day increase the state has seen so far. And according to Planet Fitness, that means it's a great time to reopen their Texas locations! Every medical expert is saying the same thing, which is that a second wave is inevitable if we reopen too soon. Unfortunately, this location has chosen to listen to non-medical expert Greg Abbott rather than actual medical experts, because they do not care if we live or die as long as we get back on their crappy purple ellipticals right away. There is no way to offer a sanitary gym experience right now. You are misleading your customers into a false sense of safety. If you are not requiring masks inside the gym, it does *not* matter if you remove a couple of treadmills--people will be breathing heavily in an enclosed space. And simply asking people to stay home if they're having symptoms is B.S. We KNOW that it is possible for COVID patients to be contagious TWO WEEKS without showing symptoms. Putting the burden on individual customers to do the right thing is madness; people don't even wipe down the machines when there *isn't* a pandemic happening! Lots of people are going to get sick thanks to this decision to reopen. Some of them may even die. Reopening now is madness and reeks of corporate greed. I will no longer support this gym, which is prioritizing profit over its customers' lives. read more

It's a great value at $21 or $10 a month with little to no initiation fees. The place is clean, the equipment is new and the staff is very friendly and helpful. There are plenty of tv's so you can watch tv while doing any exercise. At $21 you can use the tanning beds, massage chairs ( regular and hydro), bring guests, visit any location and buy drinks for less than $2 (50% off). When I signed up I got the first month free, $0 initiation fee and a free T-shirt I highly recommend it! read more

I'm not one to rant but let me tell y'all... slaughter was my favorite location, it was always clean & running smoothly plus the staffs customer service was great. Now the place is always dirty with dust & hairs & the staff is always on their phones when I come in so there is no greeting. By the time I scan my barcode is when they notice me. 2 employees were having a full blown conversation in the stretching area. There was a small shaker bottle by them so one of them asked "is that your shaker bottle" "No! That's a baby bottle, I use a real mans shaker bottle" out loud (I heard it I'm sure the guy it belonged to heard it too since we were in the same area) & I didn't like that. Because PF's mottos are "judgement free zone" & "no intimidation's" and then as I'm walking out one of the staff was stuffing their face with food in the front desk. Very Unprofessional. read more

Everyone at PF on Slaughter Lane was so nice. I came in from out of town because of the hurricane and forgot my water and had no credit card on me and the manager on site was so nice to give me a bottled water. That was so nice & thoughtful. I also loved the fact that the temperature was nice & cool in there. My home PF keeps the temp at 70 and it's hard to workout in 70 degree temps. Thank you PF Slaughter Lane for your hospitality. read more

I thought Planet Fitness being terrible was just a meme. It's not just a meme. The whole gym is a sea of elliptical and useless machines. Maybe that's helpful to people who don't really want to work out, but for anyone even remotely serious, the lack of free weights is a problem. The main reason why this is such a bummer is that their membership is so cheap! It costs almost nothing but I was immediately disappointed by the subpar facilities. They have that bizarre tradition of serving pizza in the gym. Also the whole culture of "calling out" people who are working out too hard or whatever is insane. Did they stop to think that maybe encouraging members to humiliate people grunting while working out might actually make the culture WORSE. Really shameful. The lunk alarm is just one giant bodyshaming signal. read more