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    Rockharbor Church

    Rockharbor Church

    4.2(70 reviews)
    5.2 mi

    1) Don't attend this church if you have a physical disability unless you enjoy being treated like a…read more10 year old child. There is a 30's female that was a volunteer and attended this church for longer than I did, that has a physical disability so she can't drive to church, other than that she's perfectly able, normal, has a full time job, etc. However, once "Hospitality Pastor" Suzan started working there, she started treating this young woman like she had a mental disability or like a 10-year old child. I stood there many times when Suzan would literally come up to her and scold her for being at church past a certain time, as if she were mentally deficient and a child. Suzan also got multiple pastors/leaders to start treating her this same way: Pastors Kit, Ben, Paul, Josh, etc. among others. I can say it was very demeaning and it made me upset just witnessing it. I stood up for her many times, but finally they asked the woman to stop coming to the church, because she was disobedient for standing up for herself and not leaving when they demanded she leave. I also had a discussion later where Pastor Kit literally rolled his eyes and said "come on" when I said "this Woman is in her 30's" as if I should know that he sees her as a 10 year old. RH should consider itself lucky they weren't sued for ADA/discriminatory practices over this matter. There was another man in a wheelchair who had been attending for over a year that stopped coming after Suzan started working there, although I can't say it had anything to do with her, but the timing is a strange coincidence. 2) About 6 months ago, a new "Hospitality Pastor" named Suzan was hired at the church. I put the name in quotes because she is the queen of inhospitality. She is the leader over all the volunteers that greet people at the door and do other tasks. Since she started at least 70% of the volunteers have stopped volunteering or even stopped attending the church altogether (many were longtime members/volunteers of the church). I've heard from dozens of volunteers how overbearing and mean-spirited she is. She always is walking around with a smile on her face while simultaneously saying mean and disparaging remarks about how the volunteers are "doing their jobs wrong". I personally heard many of her comments while standing near the food table or talking to volunteers. 3) The staff and payrolls are extremely bloated. This is a medium sized church of about 2500 I would guess yet they have over 25 people on staff about 15 pastors with a payroll of $2.5 million or $100K a person, but that's the average. Financials are available on their website. I would guess their pastors are making $!50-$200K easily. Pastors work 20 hours a week: 10-3 M-Th (probably an hour lunch) + attend a Sunday service. It's a pretty good gig but doesn't convey the heart of being good stewards over God's resources. While it isn't a sin to collect a big salary, it makes me question the motives behind certain people being on staff at the church....is this a calling from God on their lives or a calling from their personal wallets? Would the still be working here for a more reasonable salary? I've been to similar sized churches on Orange County that had like 4 pastors and an office manager. With this massive staff + salaries you think they would at least be able to have one person available to answer phones (see 4). 4) Church leadership cares about the almighty dollar Much more than its people. Easy to prove this. Try calling the church and you'll get an automated menu with no way to reach a real human being at the church. Just for fun I tried all nine menu options. Guess which option was the only one that rang an actual line? Yup you guessed it "Giving". Everything else goes to a generic voice box that you'll be lucky to get a call back on. I did finally get a callback after leaving two messages, 4 days later, when I finally needed to call the church for the first time in years. You could literally be on the verge of ending your life and calling RH to talk to a "caring pastor" and you'll have to leave a voicemail and hope they call back before you end things. If you have a donation, don't worry someone will be there to offer full assistance. 5) Worship is really good but don't go to this church if you want strong Biblical teaching. It is a very doctrine light church. You'll get the milk every week but meat is not on the menu here. 6) No pastoral accountability. Pastor Kit was behaving un-biblically and I asked to have another pastor get involved and come over and join our conversation that night. Kit refused. There were other pastors there that night so why would you refuse to have another pastor offer his advice on whether this was Biblical or not? He then tells me to leave the church and call him later that week. Finally he calls me 10 days later and after being unable to come to terms, I also asked for the senior pastor call me and Kit refused. Left messages for Glenn and nothing.

    Rockharbor is home. The bible is taught in a way that is convicting and still gravitatingread more

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    Mariners Church - Pathway

    Mariners Church

    4.0(188 reviews)
    8.2 mi

    Love this church, it's so amazing, Eric & the music is outstanding ,, uplifting & spiritual, thank…read moreyou Mariners church

    RE - MARINERS NORTH IRVINE CAMPUS -…read more Short summary - Decent church for families, not the best church for progressive, independent thinking adults and new Christians: To provide context for this review, I'm writing this not in an attempt to embarrass church leadership or be passive aggressive, but rather, to share an authentic, truthful and vulnerable experience that allows others to come to their own conclusions about whether Mariners North Irvine would be a good fit for them. As I write this, I am a female in my thirties, I am relatively new in my Christian journey, not entirely familiar with the Bible, college-educated, and progressive-leaning. I had left a previous church in Irvine that I felt wasn't entirely welcoming, and to this church's credit, I felt very loved, seen, and supported during Rooted and during the coming months. I had objections and doubts about the Bible and the faith, but Pastors Steve and John made themselves available to answer questions and provided enough reassurance for me to believe that I could work through my doubts. I also felt that the leaders of my Rooted group (which later became a life group) were very caring and affirming, and due to everyone's support, I became very committed to Mariners Church and the Christian faith. Unfortunately, my time at Mariners North Irvine did not have a happy ending. Several months after Rooted ended, I started to experience doubts about the faith and issues with the content of sermons or the content of the Bible that I didn't feel could be properly addressed in Life Group meetings, and some objections and frustrations I shared about hard topics (genocide in the Old Testament, LGBTQ+ issues, dangers associated with the Great Commission) were met with dismissive or passive aggressive responses. I realized that the culture at this particular church, or at least the design of their Life Groups may not have been suited for people who were seeking rigorous discussion and answers about challenging issues related to faith and that certain people who the church allowed to lead these groups, even if they were well intentioned, may not have been trained to handle these situations or respond appropriately to a believer's doubts or authenticity. At a prior church I attended (The Village Church of Irvine), one of the leaders of the small group I was in had a degree in apologetics, and they devoted a section of time at the end of group meetings specifically to discussing heavy subjects. Some members of the group genuinely enjoyed discussing these challenging topics and appreciated hard questions. While that church was not perfect, I appreciated that at least there were opportunities to have rigorous discussions for people who wanted to explore the faith at a deeper level or seek guidance from other believers on hard issues without judgment. The population at this church is primarily Asian and family oriented (I can say this because I am Asian myself) and I got the general impression this church would be fine for families and people who are willing to uphold the status quo, but it would not be a friendly place for anyone who is a deeply critical thinker, seeking diversity in a community, needs a better intellectual or deeper understanding of Christianity, single and looking to meet other singles, or is sympathetic to the LGBTQ+ community and their causes. I am not saying that the people and the leaders at this church are not good people, but at the end of the day, I sadly felt that this church could not meet me in my current season of faith, was not a good fit for my intellectual needs or progressive leanings, and could not offer me the kind of diverse community and long term support I may have needed to get through my doubts.

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