My experience is for attending wedding event two nights main lodge - Lodge Mini-Suite. Rating = 3 without unnecessary staff confrontations.
Positive: great grounds, decent indoor outdoor recreation, great staff, spacious. Lots of potential for world class lodging.
Negative: Excessively over priced for quality provided and gross misuse of the fixed 18% gratuity. Dirty facilities, dingy outdated furniture, outdated dining rules and staff trained to be policeman and work in fear of management. You are blowing it!
1. Lodge Mini-Suite: The photo of this room looks better than the room we actually got. The ventilation system has cooling and heat but in a warm evening with AC at 75 at bedtime, you awake 2 am in 85 to 90 degrees bone dry heat. I woke with a very bad nose bleed and unstoppable headache. They added electronics to switch AC to heat without even a placard letting you know. A nose bleed is serious business when you cannot get back to sleep needed for wedding activities. The bathroom is cramped. Sleep Inn bathroom is 10 times better. Lost shower water pressure to a near dribble from other rooms flushing the toilet. Doors large floor gap so lots of hall noise. Unworthy of the $400+ room price anywhere in the world. King bed was comfortable and plenty of pillows. TV/cable/DVD/VCR acceptable.
2. WiFi very weak. The wedding disc jockey was hampered by it as well. Bring cellular internet with you. Verizon gets you 3 - 4 bar 3G and that was 10 times faster than their wifi when it worked at all. No hotel cannot be without adequate internet these days and expect to attract the young folks with money who get it from being in the technology sector.
3. Staff. Good people who are trained to challenge you in front of your friends and family for something you had no idea would be not allowed. In my case, embarrassed in front of family at lunch after being seated at the table to remove tan plain cap that I need to prevent sunburn. Second time in transporting for bride groom's wedding gift special expensive liquor that needed wrapping. Bottle tops poked its head out of one of our carrying cases so the person helping us unload the car challenged us on bringing it into the hotel with no alternatives offered. Again the wrong use of staff. We embarassingly complied, then, DUH, later brought the gift in undercover. Third time was a breakfast in a reserved part of the dining room wedding party guests. I was escorted to a table & told we had one table full and they then allocated another table for me. Then I proceeded back to get the buffet breakfast in another room. I returned being the only person at the table, I was literally interrogated by the servers. Are you a wedding guest? Are you with the wedding assigned to that table? Did anyone tell you to sit at this table? Well that frosted me. Skytop, no one wants to pay 18% for interrogation and monitoring by staff. Also it is easy to find out that the 18% does not fully go to staff & that staff is fearful of management. Very bad management - you lose potential repeat business brought in via weddings.
4. Wedding 4.5 stars - Was not responsible for wedding. From my perspective, they handled that well, were on top of things & made it work. They do a lot of them & have plenty of room and resources. Food was good. We had their best facility.
5. Grounds - super lake with hiking, that you can visit without staying there BTW. I do not golf, but you can read other's who have commented on that.
6. Facilities. You can have fun there. From the traditional coin games like air hockey to indoor mini golf (needs repairs), pool, TV room, quaint bar room called the tap room, rock climbing, canoeing, swimming, basic exercise room.
7. Maintenance. Room service is good. Carpets are filthy in all the meeting rooms and in our room they were "acceptable" but you want to keep your things off of them. The indoor pool was dirty one day - cloudy you could not see the bottom. Hot tub foamed which means sun oils and such in the water. Men's pool shower - MOLD! tiles & vents. Shower in your room after you shower in the men's pool locker if you know what I mean. One dirty ice machine controlled by bell hop, tastes foul. DO NOT USE THE ICE!
8. Furniture - they have the dumpiest furniture throughout the building and in the rooms. The retro look is nice but needs upgrading to newer furniture, carpets and appointments.
9. Food - nothing special based on 1 lunch + 2 breakfasts. Omelet bar was a plus. Skipped 3 of 6 prepaid meals because I was turned off by the irritating rules, not so special food and tense unhappy dining staff.
10. Antiquated dining rules: Do not plan wearing a cap & reading the morning news in the dining room on your iPad, you will be intimidated by staff to take them back to your room. Skytop: Rethink how to accommodate hats & electronics in the dining area or perish.
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