This business does the heartbreaking work for you. Just trust in them. [[HIGHLIGHT]]Our sweet girl passed on Christmas Eve, and once we regained part of our minds and dried our eyes, we thought no one would be open. They were open and told us to come in, no problem, no appointment needed[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]]. [[HIGHLIGHT]]Megan was absolutely a pro and so empathetic. She was so sweet and answered all of our questions regarding this unique process.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] We left our girl in her care and we got her back less than two weeks later without complications. The process is not too expensive and seriously, for what you get and the care your loved one receives, the cost is not bad. I also love that they put up an ofrenda the entire month of October and highlight all the good girls and boys who passed that year. Seriously touching. read more

I had to reach out to Resting Waters via email to get some information about where my sweet boy was laid to rest 2 years ago. [[HIGHLIGHT]]Megan replied promptly and was so kind in her response.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] They really are a beautiful company to work with. read more

My first pet and favorite little hamster, Sonic, passed away in November 2024, while I was away on business. [[HIGHLIGHT]]As soon as I landed back in Seattle, I made a call to Resting Waters, and they made an appointment for me the same day in the evening.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] [[HIGHLIGHT]]Throughout, the staff were kind, caring, and very understanding of what we were going through.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] When we arrived at Resting Waters, we were given an hour long appointment, and shown to a seating area/room where we could lay our beloved Sonic on a pet bed at the front of the room and hold a small funeral. I didn't expect for them to provide a space to grieve, but this was incredibly thoughtful and we used up most of the hour to talk about him and share our memories before saying goodbye for the last time. You don't need to use the entire hour to fill the forms, so most of the time can be spent celebrating your pet's life. The forms allow you to select the type of cremation, the urn, and additional keepsakes such as ink and/or clay paw prints (we chose both). Because he was so small, we were very worried about whether his ashes would get stuck to the urn and be difficult to scatter, so they offered an additional urn option (small glass jar) that was not available on the paperwork. We had him back the following week, as well as the additional keepsakes we ordered. It was hard to trust someone with guiding our little mouse to the afterlife, and I was really nervous the whole time. But after our experience, I would highly recommend trusting Resting Waters with this important decision. read more

I love this company we have used them for both of our dogs Brooklynn we lost him to old age and Chapo had cancer in his leg they treat your animals like they are theirs handle them with care and the details they put into giving you them back didn't go unnoticed thank you so much. [[HIGHLIGHT]]This is one of the hardest things a fur mama has to do it's like losing a kid so thank you for being so caring, compassionate, and gentle.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] read more

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Resting waters is located in West Seattle, and even though we live in Kirkland, this is the only place I will bring my pet when they cross the rainbow bridge. We were out of town when our cat passed away, and we were so distraught that we couldn't be there. Our friend brought her here to Resting Waters since they could keep her refrigerated until we could get home to see her. When we came to see her, they did such a nice job of placing her in a basket for us to spend some time with her body. They had flowers and candles and lots of tissues. I really needed the tissues. After we said our goodbyes, they did the aquamation, which is a process where they use water to cremate the body and prepare the ashes. When we picked up her remains, they had a nice clay pawprint, a vial of her hair, and paperwork certifying her aquamation. The people were so kind and generous of heart, and we really felt comforted that they cared about us and our kitty. Thank you, Resting Waters, for making this traumatic time easier to bear. read more

Thank you Resting waters for taking care of our sweet Keiko. He was our first pet that was with us for 13 years. He passed on 12.11.24. After his death Resting waters provided a safe space for me and my nieces/husband to say our goodbyes with candlelights and a bed to lay him in. He looked so peaceful. We want to thank you Kale for handling Keiko with love and compassion towards his aftercare. We did not think we would get him before Christmas and you made it happen. We highly recommend Resting Waters. [[HIGHLIGHT]]My husband had handled everything with Resting Waters and they were very communicative and explained everything in detail.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] I also purchased a rose gold heart necklace. Thank you for putting his ashes into that heart for me. I felt peace after getting Keiko today. From the bottom of our hearts we thank you. R.i.p Keiko Han Cheng read more

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Resting waters is a godsend. They were the only ones that were able to fit me in same day my dog passed. The staff were kind and caring and walked me through the process. I didn't know what aquamation was prior to this. They even had an area where we could have a small funeral. My wife and kids really appreciated that. The pricing was affordable as well, and they have unique services. I know that's the least of your worries at the time. But with all they offer you can tell they truly care about their clients and their pets, and are not trying to rip you off. I wish all places had this level of compassion and empathy. Matter of fact the entire funeral industry (not just pets) could take lessons from here. I've recommended this place to every one I know that has lost a beloved pet. read more

if i can offer any suggestion to someone who knows they are about to lose a pet, it would be to reach out to resting waters ahead of time. [[HIGHLIGHT]]i called to get some information and didn't know if i'd need to make an appt or if it was possible to do it over the phone but from my first interaction with kale, i knew this was the right decision and i knew i had found someone i wanted to care for my dog once he had passed.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] [[HIGHLIGHT]]kale is incredibly gifted in terms of compassion and patience when it comes to death care.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] this was not my first time losing a beloved animal but i had chosen traditional cremation the other times and because of logistics and a changing mindset this time around, i gravitated towards using resting waters. [[HIGHLIGHT]]i took my dog, xochi, to meet kale while he was still alive. it was very special for all of us.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] and i chose to pay ahead of time so all of the paperwork and payment were done and i had nothing to do when the time came but be with my emotions. kale came to pick up at my house (free transport in west seattle) and was beyond loving and respectful of my dog and my loss as i helped him to load xochi into the car. [[HIGHLIGHT]]he asked me if i wanted to know when xochi's aquamation process would start (and explained some people want that information and others don't) but i appreciated the thoughtfulness of asking what my preference was.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] about a week later when i was informed xochi's remains were ready to come home, i decided it was important to me to pick them up when kale was working because i wanted to be able to show my gratitude again for the depth of understanding and compassion i received. i had requested the remains not be pulverized and they are much more "intact" and coarser than traditional cremains but it's ultimately individual choice. i cannot recommend resting waters enough. the services they provide and the quality of care i received show how invested this family run business is in terms of honoring our loved ones from the animal kingdom. [[HIGHLIGHT]]i'm of the opinion that i am especially lucky to have worked with kale although i am sure anyone from resting waters who helps you would be equally as understanding and patient as you navigate an animal loss.[[ENDHIGHLIGHT]] it's never going to be easy but we are truly fortunate to have resting waters to lean on as we say goodbye and start the grieving process. read more

Dear Resting Waters, When I lost my 16 year old Havanese, we brought him to you. He died at home with me and I was distraught at the loss. My husband came with our dog and you made a lovely space for him to say his final goodbyes. You offered words of comfort but let him have space to be alone. When we picked up the ashes of our sweet puppy I cried all the way home. The thoughtful and beautiful way you prepared things for us made it easy to remember and discuss how much we loved our sweet Ollie. The card you enclosed was so beautiful. I wanted to write and say thank you so much for all you did to make this a beautiful experience. read more

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My sweet cat son died unexpectedly on a recent evening. An internet search led me to Resting Waters and I contacted through Yelp. Not hearing anything by the next morning, I decided to call them directly and was able to make an appointment for the next day (they did respond to my Yelp inquiry later in the day). The next day, I waited outside in the small courtyard in the back until it was my time, then walked in. The door opens to the funeral stage, set up for viewing where you can say your goodbyes. From there, a young lady took my cat's body and prepared him while I filled out a form and looked at a catalog to select a vessel for his remains. The atmosphere was respectful and the space was peaceful and clean. She placed my cat in a small bed, along with his favorite toy that I'd brought, and left me to grieve privately. I walked over to the counter when I was ready and was told his remains would be ready for pickup in about a week. Their call came less than a week later. You drive up to the front, park in the designated area, call to announce your arrival, and what looks like a boutique bag is brought out to you straight away. The bag includes your pet's remains in the vessel you've chosen, a certificate of aquamation, a sympathy card and the numbered token that was used for identification. Also included is a packet of herbs, featuring the same scents used to annoint your pet before aquamation, that you can burn in a private ceremony at home. I am so grateful to Resting Waters for fitting me in so quickly. That long, sad, lonely drive to the Kent crematorium is a thing of the past, now that I know about Resting Waters. Although it will take a long time to overcome the grief of losing my boy, Resting Waters is a class act and am grateful they helped my cat cross softly over to the Rainbow Bridge. read more

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Our beloved Dino passed during the night and I left a message at Resting Waters, nearby in West Seattle. Cale (sorry about the spelling of his name) called me back before 10am and was able to get us in at noon the same day. The facility was nicely arranged so we would have privacy during our visit and last goodbye, and he was so kind and empathetic. The cost for what we wanted was reasonable. I would recommend this company, thumbs up. read more

I'd seriously give this place 100 stars if I could. Here are the things I LOVE about Resting Waters: 1. The concept: A respectful, calming, caring, funeral home for pets that doesn't FEEL like a funeral home, but more like a yoga studio. Modern, comfortable, respectful, and zen. To have a place to get closure and say goodbye to your fur-baby is nothing short of special. Not having to live with regrets of feeling like he wasn't treated right or that we didn't get to say goodbye properly is invaluable; living with that regret is a horrible feeling that never really goes away, and for selfish reasons, I'm so glad I don't have to live with that. I attribute that entirely to Resting Waters. Also, aquamation. It felt so much more natural and purer than cremation. I realize this sounds cliche, but it seemed like our pup was entering back into the circle of life as opposed to burning up after it was over. Grim, I know. But also true. 2. The service: Joslin and Darci are just the bee's knees. I don't know how else do describe how wonderful they are; using words like "amazing" and "incredible" doesn't seem to do them justice. They were caring, attentive, helpful, empathetic, supportive, professional, respectful, and present. Everything you'd hope for in someone helping you put your loved one to rest. 3. The presentation: We got to choose a beautiful, non-stereotypical-looking urn for our pup that we will cherish forever. Once aquamated, we were presented with the urn containing our pup's remains with a custom metal tag attached, a gorgeous white mold of our pup's paw print and name written underneath, a Certificate of Aquamation, and a small pretty glass jar containing fur clippings. Everything was so high quality. I (half) jokingly told my mom that I wanted to be aquamated at Resting Waters when I die. Let me tell you, I've had several people pass away in my life and this is by far the most beautiful way I've seen this process go. 4. The care: The level of customer service is impeccable. They were available when we needed them (which, especially during COVID, is a BIG deal) and we knew we could trust them with our beloved 18.5-year-old puppy. I kid you not when I say our dog was like a third child alongside my brother and me. We got him when I was 10 years old, so I've had him for most of my life. To see him go was earth-shattering for my family so being able to trust someone to take care of him meant the entire world. I truly don't know what we would've done without them. Needless to say, I think immensely highly of Resting Waters. I now have two dogs of my own, and wherever in the world I end up by the time they pass I am FOR SURE making my way to West Seattle to have them taken care of by Joslin and Darci. I'm so thankful for them, I know you will be too! read more

This is the kind of place you never want to need, but alas, are glad they are there when you need it. Our sweet girl received a cancer diagnosis that had little hope. I reached out to Resting Waters in preparation to know that her time would come within weeks to months and wanted to make sure they'd be able to take her and when the time came, I knew what to expect with them. Our girl let us know she was ready on one of the really snowy days this past winter. Being north of Seattle by 20 minutes and going through the trauma, I knew I probably wouldn't be able to drive her body there and if I did, I probably wouldn't be able to let it go. They made the process super easy for us and came and got her even in the horrible conditions. They also took her in her favorite blanket which gave me a little comfort knowing her body was with it. She was ready for us quicker than we thought she'd be, and they were so kind in giving us her ashes and others trinkets (paw imprints, fur clippings). They also took beautiful photos of Mercy looking at peace with beautiful flowers surrounding her. I haven't been able to look at them since, but I'm so happy to know that some day I'll be able to have and cherish them and see her body at final peace. We are so happy Resting Waters was able to take care of our beautiful girl and hope you don't ever need them, but know they are there if you do. And some day, when my heart breaks again, we know we'll be back. read more

First of all, water cremation = aquamation. Who knew such a thing existed?! I'd heard of cremation before, but never this. It's taken me a few months to write this review... I'd never lost a pet before... and I'd been a dog mama of two for 11 years. So you can imagine my confusion when it came time to think about the end of life process for my Kai, 15 year old papillon mix. He was my first ever dog. In November 2019, we unexpectedly lost him while I was away on international travel. My significant other, Scott, found Resting Waters for me and everything about it felt RIGHT. First, it's way better for the environment (I didn't know cremation was bad in the first place). Secondly, it's located in West Seattle... when i first moved here with Kai and Koa, we lived in Alki... so this felt meant to be. I wasn't there during Kai's passing, but got lots of facetime "i-love-you's" in... but i don't know what I would've done without Scott or Resting Waters. They were so incredibly sensitive and empathetic... I couldn't imagine a better place. The pricing (at least for small dogs) is also quite comparable to traditional cremation. This was a relief as it wasn'ts omething we were expecting to have to pay (I honestly believed my Kai Kai would live until 19). He was so energetic and spry up until his final days. Scott brought Kai to Resting Waters the day after he passed away peacefully... the lady said he had a full hour to say goodbye. They have soft fluffy beds for customers to put their pets on. I was there for the pickup of his "aftercare" - the lady who left a voicemail used those words and her voice was so soothing :'). She was so kind upon pickup. Everything is by appointment only to ensure privacy and enough time to say goodbye. Scott surprised me with an imprint of Kai's paws, and included with each aquamation are the fur clippings (surprisingly packaged beautifully in a glass jar with a cork), ink paw prints, and a biodegradable urn (i expected a vase looking thing, but it looks like a tea canister). We're still not ready to spread his ashes, so he has a little corner on our mantle right now. I have to say... when I first saw his fur clipping, I broke down crying (and I usually don't do that). For those of you who are nearing the loss of a pet, or already lost a pet... Resting waters is an incredible place that will lovingly handle the end of life process with your pet. I'd use them again and again. And idk who needs to hear this... but they know you love them, you've done the best you can, and until we meet our loves again, they'll be playing up "there", unburdened by their physical bodies. Thank you Scotty, for finding this place for our Kai kai. Forever grateful. read more

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After losing a pet very suddenly two days before Christmas, I was at a loss for what to do next. Resting Waters being available for full service during the holidays on such short notice was incredible- thank you. We were spoken to with kindness and patience by everyone there which made such a painful process a little bit easier. I am not entirely sure what happened, but an internal miscommunication, lack of communication, or incorrect assumption by an aquamation worker led to a permanent piece of my pet I requested back multiple times being aquamated with him. It was heartbreaking to learn this, but I would like to thank Kale especially for handling and communicating this to me with professionalism, sympathy, and responsibility for the mistake, as well as for his help during the final pickup. Thank you for treating us so well. read more

This unfortunately was the 2nd time I needed the services of Resting waters. Kale who I first talked to on the phone was caring and very understanding. He first stated the conversation with saying I'm so very sorry for your loss. This meant the world to me. Sadly the person that came to pick up my sweet kitty that had passed away couldn't even look me in the eye or offer her condolences on the loss of my kitty. For the fee I paid for someone to come to my home they could of said something to me. Losing a beloved pet is incredibly hard. I know that my kitty will be treated with care and dignity until she is returned to me. read more

My sweet girl passed on 9-18-2021 at home. She was 14.8yrs old and the joy of my world. I wanted to honor her passing in the best way. I'm so happy I decided to explore my options. This is the best way for handling the remains of our loved ones. I hope they do this for humans as well. Its compassionate and good for the environment. The staff was wonderful! Thank-you read more

My rottweiler died in the middle of the night leaving me devastated. I had no idea what to do. I found this service on yelp, and sent a message. They contacted me right when they opened. I spoke with Darci, who is a wonderfully kind soul. When I arrived I was allowed to say good bye to my girl one last time without feeling rushed. The patience and tranquility Darci exuded will forever be appreciated. I would definitely recommend them to anyone needing this service. read more

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We recently let our 18.5 year old cockapoo dog go and Joslin and Darci at Resting Waters were very caring and accommodating. What a heartwarming and comforting service for our loved companions. They treated our dog, Sammy, and my family with warmth and respect and we felt he was in good hands when we left him for the last time. Resting Waters' services and products are top quality from start to finish. We purchase the ceramic urn and a matching vase, along with the clay paw print impression. When we picked up Sammy's ashes everything was wrapped beautifully. Thank you Joslin and Darci for your precious service. We will always return as clients and have highly recommended you to our veterinarian as well. Thank you also to Kit Roth who came with Joslin to meet us late at night when we dropped Sammy off. It meant a lot. read more

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Resting Waters has taken care of 2 of my pets that have crossed the Rainbow Bridge. F**k Donald Trump, I'm glad they don't support a bigot! 14/10 stars read more

I've taken 5 of my pets here, and every time been cared for with nothing but kindness and loving empathetic hearts. Exactly what my family needed. Thank you Resting Waters...and FDT. read more

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So this is our 3rd time using Resting Waters within the past year (3 pets total) and I still love using them for our cremation needs. And while it's hard losing a pet I think they make it a little less hard for the furkid parents. When it comes to our furbabies it important to find a place that meets our family members needs, especially at such an emotional time. My wife had already been doing her homework knowing that our pooch would need this type of service sooner than we expected. What was even better was learning about the aquamation process and how it works vs traditional cremation. Darci was great in understanding what we were experiencing and showed the type of compassion we needed for our dog. Highly re read more

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We just lost our beloved little cat, Baby Stripe, and decided on Resting Waters for aquamation. The way they cared for our sweet boy, and the genuine compassion they showed us, was unlike anything I've experienced. These people truly understand that animals are family, and they treat the loss as significantly as the loss of a human. They made a very painful time, a bit easier to bear. It meant everything to this Mamas heart, to know my baby was surrounded by love, and treated with respect. I cannot recommend Testing Waters highly enough. We are forever grateful to the entire staff. read more

Resting Waters Aquamation - Our Baby Stripe - Pet Cremation Services Near Me - Seattle, Washington

When we had to say goodbye to our beloved Cat Dr.Evil we knew we wanted to give him a worthy sendoff. A normal cremation wasn't our favorite, as it's not good for the environment. Thanks to the public work of Caitlin​ Doughty I have had heard about Aquamation before, so we searched the internet for eco-friendly​y solutions. Our vet (Urban Animal) partners with Resting Waters, which made the whole process super easy for us. We could fill out all the paperwork at the vet and just needed to wait for a call that told us when we could come over to collect the urn and paw prints (clay and on paper) and pay for their service. Everyone was very friendly and the packaging was very nicely done. I'm thankful for their work in such emotional troubling times. read more

Our beloved dog died a few weeks ago. Darci drove all the way out to Snoqualmie to pick our dear boy up. She was so kind to us and so respectful with his body. When we picked up the remains today, they were lovingly packed and accompanied by his collar. The quiet professionalism shown by Resting Waters gave us one less thing to worry about in a time of grief. I cannot recommend Resting Waters highly enough. read more

We were overwhelmed by their caring, efficient, and tremendous effort to meet our schedule for our sweet cat. We approached them at the last minute and they fit us in for our needs. The memory package of a paw print and fur was beautifully done and wrapped with even a lovely card included. I almost started crying when we opened it. Resting Waters goes above and beyond, and for a very reasonable price, to meet your needs, and to be better for the environment. If there was a rating of 10, they would receive that from us. Thank you for making our difficult time nicer. read more

I haven't picked up my loved one yet, but these people have been nothing but kind and considerate. I couldn't wish anything better than these folks for my best friend in his passing. The compassion you receive from the owners and staff is outstanding. If it weren't still Covid, I would give them a huge hug. They go out of their way to make sure you feel comfortable. Highly recommend! read more

Lost our sweet pup a couple months ago and brought him to Resting Waters. They were so empathetic throughout the whole process and made it easy to handle a difficult situation. read more

Our Jack Russell passed the day after Christmas and in the midsts of a snow storm, Resting Waters was the only place we could find that was available and thankfully had an opening! The person who answered was extremely helpful and so patient. When we showed up, they explained everything, showed so much compassion and made us feel so welcomed. The place itself is very clean and well kept. We had absolutely no concern with trusting them with our loved one. We're so thankful for Resting Waters. Would recommend to anyone. read more

They are so kind and caring and really took care of me and my girl on the hardest day when I had to say goodbye. She was my whole world and I felt good knowing they were there to help me treat her remains with respect. They have my undying gratitude. read more

Our 16 year old Cat Komet had succumbed to kidney disease and we had a loving caring Vet (see other reviews) come to our house and put him to sleep. They were followed by the quiet respectful arrival of Joslin from Resting Waters. She came in asked if we wanted her to take her shoes off, sat next to Komet and talked quietly with us and explained everything. She asked if she could take him, wrapped him up in a baby blanket and left his face out, put him in a basket and told us we could pay for everything when we picked him up, and quietly left. We picked his remains up 3 days later and the container is biodegradable, had his tag, the micro chip. I highly recommend this caring service for one of a pet owners hardest days. read more

We knew the time was coming for our old girl. We didn't know it would happen on a holiday. The ladies in This place are absolutely amazing. They returned my call on New Year's and got us in that evening. I was shocked at how clean and beautiful it was inside. It was very relaxing and made saying our final goodbye to our almost 17 year old girl very comfortable. Darcy was very helpful with details prior to our arrival. It went exactly as expected. I wish I wasn't such a blubbering mess to have been able to thank her for all her help. Upon picking up our remains it was a very smooth process and the gift bag was absolutely beautiful. I loved the paw print impression with sparkles in it just like our girl would love. The ink print is perfect and will help me remember my girl forever. I highly recommend Resting Waters and will use them for our other dogs when the time comes. read more

I'm not sure I can adequately put into words how wonderful the ladies at resting waters are. To put this in to perspective I traveled over an hour each way and spent significantly more money because I knew resting waters were the only folks I felt comfortable with. As a funeral director myself, I had many specific questions that were answered easily and without hesitation. From the first phone call I felt like Fig was the most important dog they had ever taken care of, it was evident they truly cared. On arrival the facility smells amazing, that's weird I know, but my brain now has a good smell and sight association with saying goodbye. I was never rushed, given as much time as I needed to say my goodbyes and then allowed to place fig into the unit. I can not give enough stars here. Ladies keep doing what you are doing. You are bringing comfort to a place where there is often cold resignation. read more

Such calming and caring people, I highly recommend Resting Waters when you are faced with the sad loss of your beloved pet.

I'm going to make this short. My dogs that I have had for 14 years died in a fire a week ago. Naturally I am consumed with grief. I have personally never once in my life ran across such loving people with an amazing professional aesthetic. These beautiful human beings care about you, your companions and this heart wrenching process. They made everything so easy on me. Now I have my boys home and with me and in spirit. I wish this business all the success in the world. Thank you so much for caring about my feelings and the connection of myself and my fur babies. thank you. You're doing a great thing. Truly. read more

My dog Zoe died one year ago today and Resting Waters took such wonderful care of us both. They are so kind and treat your beloved family members as they should be treated. I will always recommend them. read more

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Amazing professionalism and understanding can be counted on when using their Aquamation services. Our family was so glad to have this option to support our closure and healing after a difficult loss to the family. read more

We have used resting waters acclamation services a handful of times. And recommended our friends and family check them out as well. We have always been treated with the upmost respect. Darci was a pleasure to work with. We and our pets have felt incredible value from this company. I highly recommend! read more

Resting Waters is the most caring, empathetic, family oriented business. I am so glad they are a part of our community and tell everyone I know with a pet about them. They treat each pet and family that uses their service like they are the only client, and you will walk away knowing your pet is in good hands - and with closure - you will have the chance to say your goodbyes in a space that is safe and comforting for starting your grieving journey. read more

Darci and Joslin took such good care of me--kind, compassionate, warm, comforting... they were all the things I needed them to be and more when I needed their help. I would choose them a million times if I ever had it to do over again. read more