Three negatives within the first 30 minutes of the trip. Will update if there's positive changes, if this review is not updated, the experience did not get better. For $600-850 a snow mobile, this outfit is greatly missing customer etiquette. We were told to be ready at 6am sharp. We wanted to confirm which side of the hotel pickup was, however neither the 1800 or 307 numbers work. We called repeatedly, text the 307 number, and had no idea if we'd been scammed until the coach showed up at 6:28. Showing up late with no working phone number was shocking for an outfit that demands logistics and communication at 6am. Once the coach showed up, I asked Jeff (guide) if there's any coffee since it's a 1+ hour ride to Yellowstone and coffee shops were not open. Scenic Safari's response? "You can die for an hour in the back." A bit rude, I ignored it. For comparison, the hotel shuttle that runs FOR FREEE has coffee and hot chocolate prepped in the van. No coffee on a $600-800 per person is one thing, but "You can die for an hour in the back," has ZERO customer etiquette. We get in the coach and the man has the lights on full blast over our heads. When asked to dim them since it's pitch black outside and the contrast painful to anyone with migraines, Jeff makes the remark "lights are going off because there's someone sensitive in the back." Zero basic customer etiquette. Just turn the light off. Everyone heard the request. Three strikes before the fist 30 minutes of the trip with 8 hours to go. read more

We did the snowmobile trip from the south entrance to Old Faithful. We were a large group and had three guides. Meaghan and Scarlet were terrific. Whatever you do be sure you don't get Anthony! I don't know why this business still employs him. He was gruff and generally had a nasty attitude. He really distracted from the experience. read more

We booked a tour with Scenic Safaris to snowmobile through Yellowstone. At 30 below our guide Delaney made sure we were warm and having a great time. We saw Old Faithful before most of the crowd and had time to find a few bison roaming in a couple different patches. Epic adventure! read more

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Private UTV ride is a must!!! 3 hours of off roading thru Curtis Canyon was amazing! Ree our guide lead us thru the best trails. So many great photo ops. Highly recommend!!! (Note - you will get dirty!!!) read more

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There was a snowstorm the day of our tour, which was obviously not something anyone could control. That said, snowstorms are somewhat expected in winter in Yellowstone, and it didn't seem to be handled well. Positives: It was cool to see (a little of) Yellowstone in the snow, for sure. The lunch sandwiches were tasty. Our guide was knowledgeable about the park and the local flora and fauna. We did see one bison up close when he decided to hang out in the road. Negatives: - We got to Flagg Ranch, where you transfer from bus to snowcoach, and had to wait around for well over an hour so all of the snowmobile groups could head out first, supposedly because they couldn't travel over the ruts from the snowcoach tires or something. If that's a known thing, pick us up later so we can sleep in and/or wait comfortably at the hotel. - Once we were out on the snow coach, we only stopped at Old Faithful and one other spot. Yes, the visibility was bad, but the other coach stopped at a geyser basin while we drove about 45 minutes up the road for no apparent reason and then turned around. We also could have spent more time walking around the basin where Old Faithful was, but we were all starving for lunch by that point. - Due to the weather, we literally could see almost nothing out the windows, so basically we spent the day sitting on buses. There were numerous points where I felt unsafe because the coach was sliding around, and the coach was not particularly comfortable. The bus we took to and from Flagg Ranch had a leaky window that blew snow and ice all over us for the entire ride both ways. Perhaps we would have had a better experience on a nicer day, and perhaps we had higher expectations than we should have - we were really excited for it. Instead, we were all miserable. read more

Where to start. The company Scenic Safaris was a pleasure to work with. From the moment I called, customer service was amazing. They walked me through what to expect on the trails, the cost, and just the overall process. They promised an amazing time. I was a bit skeptical but was ready for an adventure. We were quoted an amazing price for 2 rentals that fit 7 family members. Upon arrival we did the normal signatures and liability of the vehicles. Walking to the back you and your members will get fitted for helmets. Then what was awesome is that for an extra $50 you can get the vehicles extra dirty. It was worth every penny. I would have paid $100. It was sooo rad to hit 3 to 4 feet of mud. We almost got stuck but sooo rad. My suggestion is hit the trails and hit the mud. Get the added insurance just in case. You never know. So we were off and drove to the trails. One thing I recommend is to use all trails app and download the map of the area because we got a little lost and there was no cell service. So by having our map predownloaded it allowed us to find our trail. There was so much mud and snow and water that we got our vehicle super dirty. We got covered. We had a lot of fun. We would totally do it again and again. It was the best part of our trip to Yellowstone since we were there in the park when it was shut down due to flooding. Rent from Scenic Safari and have a blast. read more

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January 6, 2024 Yellowstone Snowmobile Trip Highly recommend booking a trip with Brett. He has lots of knowledgeable with the layout of the park and its history. Brett was very patient with the group, even during the process of getting us gear that would fit. He went above and beyond to give us a trip to remember. The Ski-Doo snowmobiles were great!! This trip is well worth the money!!! God Bless Brett!! God is Great!! read more

we had a blast today with Scarlett and Scenic Safaris snowmobiling through Yellowstone to Old Faithful! It was so much fun and the Mosse waterfall at the end was the highlight. Scarlett was the most personable, easy going, and kind guide! my kids said she's their fav ever...and we've had lots of tour guides! read more

Make sure you request to NOT have MICHAEL as your winter guide We read all the positive reviews about Scenic Safari's great guides, so we booked with them. The Company texted a link to us so that we could track the arrival of our coach. So we were surprised when our Winter Yellowstone snowcoach tour did not come for us at 6:15 am and did not call us or text us to say they would be late and that their link tracking the coach did not work, No one called us, we had to call them. Lady answering said that another driver had informed her Michael had not made his pick up, so she had to call Michael- "'he was having technical difficulties" & would be on his way BUT she couldn't tell us when or where Michael was because he had to failed to activate the coach tracking link. Michael, at age 58, admitted to some of the guests on our coach that he overslept - no apology. All the while, the rest of us all had to be awake and ready for our pick up time starting at 5:45am. The description said a tasty breakfast was included. DO NOT BELIEVE them. It is a poor quality white flour pre-package 7/11 muffin. Same thing goes for their included "snacks" on our 12 hour day: just Nature Valley granola bars, water, and beef jerky (which Michael chewed continuously while speaking.) Luckily, the good lunch was provided by another vendor within the park. Michael had made a poor start by being an hour late and not apologizing for it, but then he did not try to allay anyone's fears. He did not lay out the day for us, he did not explain what has happening and when it would happen. No explanation how long we would be at any one place, and what time to return to the coach. The first 45 minutes he complained about how cold the coach was. We were all dressed in many layers, it being winter. Guess who was not (maybe because he had to run out the door after oversleeping ? We've taken many tours, the latest one being the Red Jammers in Glacier National Park in August. That amazing guide shared the history of the parks, the historical landmarks, the wildlife, and great human interest stories. She learned all 12 passenger names within 30 minutes. Michael repeatedly asked our names or mixed up couples (only 8 guests total). The first point of interest Michael thought to share was" Here is where Gabby Petito died" At that point I asked Michael to please share some history of the majestic Yellowstone Park as we contemplated the winter views. Here is what Michael chose to tell us: Lewis & Clark were there, they hired Sacagaweja. and Lewis married her and later Lewis committed suicide. When passing the Black Diamond Pool in Biscuit Basin, Michael asked how many of us had seen the viral video about the explosion July 23, 2024. No one answered, so he got out his phone and brought up the video and played it on repeat. (Oh boy). On the way home, Michael told us how the governor of Montana was bad, and that wolves were good, and that ranchers were bad. This monologue was about 45 minutes long, with no one showing any interest. The next day we contacted the company we booked through: GET YOUR GUIDE to complain about the lack of a knowledgeable, personable guide, and that the guide was nearly an hour late. They promised to contact Scenic Safaris. Next morning, Steve Smith of Scenic Safaris contacted us to tell us this was Michael's first winter with their company and Michael was laid back. He said maybe we could come back to Yellowstone and book through them again. GET YOUR GUIDE was very surprised Steve Smith did not think our complaints were with merit. GET YOUR GUIDE apologized to us, offering a percentage refund for our disappointing guide. LESSON LEARNED: Book through GET YOUR GUIDE, they stand up for you when the provider lets you down. Our hotel had recommend TETON SCIENCE SCHOOL and we should have listened. If you end up booking with Scenic Safaris, even after reading about the terrors people experienced on some of the Scenic Safari's snowMOBILE tours, then INSIST you do not have the erstwhile Michael for your "guide" read more

We did the full day snowmobile to Old Faithful trip and it was a FULL day...picked up at 6am and dropped back off after 6pm. It was a great day of visiting the park and Old Faithful was far from the highlight (that part is actually rather anti-climactic). We visited multiple waterfalls, geysers, hot springs and other geo-thermic features. We probably spent about 4 hours of riding, so plenty of snowmobile time too. Joe was our guide and I HIGHLY recommend him! He was great about safety and teaching us responsible snowmobiling. I really felt safe with him. And he is super passionate and knowledgeable about Yellowstone and seemed to genuinely care that we were getting what we wanted out of the day. He even spotted a bison through the trees! Ask for him if you can. My only complaint is that approx $650 for the day for 2 of us on one sled seems like too much for the day. Pro Tip: if you have ski goggles, bring them read more

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Amazing trip into Yellowstone in the snow coach! Light snow so far this year in Jackson Hole, but the snow is finally arriving and it was a winter wonderland for our trip. Claude did a fantastic job as our guide! He had a great personality and was very knowledgeable. He showed us all a great time and some beautiful areas that some of the other tour companies passed right by. I'd definitely recommend using this group and asking for Claude if you want to explore Yellowstone in the winter!! read more

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Booked a Christmas Day Snowcoach Tour of Yellowstone/Old Faithful through our contact at Brushbuck Tours and am so glad we did. The ride up to the park was great, and our group was asking a lot of questions. As soon as we passed into the park, we saw a coyote! Once we arrived at the parking lot, we transferred from the van to Big Foot, another van hopped up on big snow tires. I'm glad we had this type of vehicle because we heard that the vans with snow treads are noisy. Surprisingly, the ride was smooth, and we felt safe inside. Our guides, Alex and Cooper, stopped multiple times to show us landscapes and waterfalls we would have never seen from the road. They educated us on the types of trees and plants and the animals we saw, including grouse, white-tailed deer, and bison. We saw a mama bison and her calf running along the side of the road, which made for a great photo! Was thrilled to see the lodgepole pine, spruce, and fir trees. They were also kind enough to make a coffee stop at one of the lodges, with was much appreciated! Due to the distance of the park entry and time to get there, the tour was full day, with pick up at 6ish. Worth every penny, only if you ask for Alex or Cooper! read more

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Just took a tour with Chris as our guide. It was a 6 am to 7pm, hotel pickup and drop-off, breakfast&lunch, and one of the most memorable experiences of my lifetime touring Yellowstone! No stone was left unturned and Chris made sure we got some of the most magical photos of the wildlife and nature in park. Chris was knowledgeable and paid close attention to everyone's needs. His number one priority was that we all had a good time and took in the experiences we wanted from the park. He made sure we got all the pictures we wanted. Phenomenal experience. 10 out of 10. Will be back! read more

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Our family of 3 did a private snowmobile tour of Yellowstone which was the only option they offered due to Covid. We had initial doubts about spending that kind if time and money on a snowmobile tour ( we are city / warm weather people) , but the tour was fantastic and Yellowstone is truly a magical place in the winter. Our goal was to see wildlife and our guide Cooper delivered, with close encounters with Bison (several) and coyotes ( freakishly close but awesome). We got an almost private viewing of Old Faithful which is amazing considering the crowds seen there in the summer. I have a philosophy that the measure of a company or people for that matter, is in what they do when things go wrong. We did have a mishap which was 100% our responsibility, and Cooper was amazing in handling it and taking care of us. I would highly recommend this tour, with this company, it's bucket list stuff! read more

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My husband & I along with 3 other couples did the 3day/2night snowmobile tour through Yellowstone. Scenic Safaris did a great job with supplying all the gear for the trip and we were extremely happy with our guide, Christian. He was very laid back and so knowledgeable about the park. Any apprehension about cold, safety, or our novice experience with snowmobiles quickly disappeared with his directions, advice, & great personality! We saw plenty of wildlife & stopped often to see waterfalls, thermal eruptions, and to take photos. The overnight accommodations and meals were top notch and it was a great journey all around. We appreciated Christian's love of the outdoors, which carried over to the group, making all of us want to do it again in the future. read more

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Horrible customer service. The girl during all of the signing up and registration was very rude (didn't get her name) . Marie was very rude with us, while returning all the gear. They lack in customer service. Going a day early to get your clothing was also a hassle. read more

This was HANDS DOWN one of the most fun things I've ever done. I won't lie, I was worried this tour wouldn't be worth its hefty price tag, but it definitely is! Scenic Safaris really takes care of everything you may need for the day. A shuttle picks you up from your hotel early in the AM and you're driven over to eat breakfast and gear up. The ranch we started out was nice and had anything we needed (balaclava and hand warmers!) The gear provided is more than enough so I wouldn't sweat that part! The ride itself was BREATHTAKING. We saw wildlife along the way and got up close and personal with Bison! Our guide Woolley was super chill and knowledgeable about the park and it's history. He let us have plenty of picture taking time too. I'd definitely recommend this tour to anyone visiting the area. It was so much fun and seriously unforgettable! read more

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We did the full day snowmobile tour from Jackson to Old Faithful with three kids aged 12, 14, 16. Spectacular time and experience to see the park this empty and snow covered. Highly recommend as a bucket list adventure, albeit with the following tips and caveats: - Dress as warmly as you can. We wore our full ski gear under the snowmobile suits and were still not warm. It snowed and was high of 15 the day we went... and 35 mph on the snowmobile means lots of wind-chill. I don't think it's possible to dress too warmly for this. - Passengers will be colder than drivers, as they get less engine heat and are less active. Consider having more people drive if you have that option. - It was a 13 hour day for us, about 7 of which were outside. Just don't be surprised. - Given the cold and length, I would pass for most younger kids. My 12 year old loved it, but was quite cold and tired by day's end. You obviously know your own kid's tolerance​ for such outings... read more

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The folks at scenic safari are great! It was our first time in Jackson and thought it would be great to see some of the beauty from UTVs. We did a private tour with side by side UTVs. It was a blast. Beau, are guide, was simply awesome!! He explained a ton while we were exploring and he made sure to discuss safety in great detail. I can be nervous and anxious when doing adventurous things but he and the team put our mind at ease. You may look at the price and think it is expensive. It is worth it! Thank you for the memories we made on this trip, it was epic!!! read more

The shortcoming here has nothing to do with the experience nor the guide. It is management's dishonesty. I booked a 3 1/2 hour private tour. Days later they came back to say only a 4 1/2 hour was available. A sizable up charge. There is no tour you can take that could possibly be greater than 3 1/2 hours. It was simply a rip off. Bad guys. Beware. read more

This trip is AMAZING!!! Our tour guide is very professional, knowledgeable, and very informative! He came well Prepared , our trip was fun and he helped check everything off our list while ensuring it was safe! If you do anything... it's request for JEFF!!!!!! He is an all star read more

We did the snowmobile trip through Yellowstone to Old Faithful and had an amazing experience. We really got lucky with our guide, Scarlett, as well. She was so great. Highly recommend her and this experience with this company! read more

We had an awesome time on the snowmobile tour. Scarlett was our guide. She was top-notch. This was our second time doing the tour, and she really outperformed and made this trip better than the last! I'd highly recommend asking for her and going on the snowmobile tour with Scenic Safaris. read more

This was hands down one of the most inspirational and inspiring trips of my life! You can't put a price tag on the level of history and civilization you'll encounter on this glorious journey through mother nature's great outdoors. Priceless & Stunning! Scenic Safari takes care of all your wants and needs for your daily escapade throughout Yellowstone National Park. A shuttle will pick you up from your hotel bright and early in the a.m. You're then riding in a shuttle a little over an hour to get to your final destination where you'll have a hot full service Breakfast buffet and thereafter suited up for your daily adventure. The gear provided from snowsuit to snow boots keeps you in definite warm throughout your trip! At some point you may find yourself too warm, which is not bad and makes you feel super secure. Mollie was our host and friend throughout this breathtaking and speechless journey. Can you say, "We we're lucky to have gotten her!?" We did well over 100 miles round-trip on an amazing maintained snowmobile that averages top speeds of up to 60 miles an hour. For your safety these snowmobiles are governed. From visualizing old faithful irruptions, to the breathtaking views of jaw dropping waterfalls. The wildlife that you'll endeavor is extraordinary. Mollie (Our Guide) Had more knowledge of this park then a Yellow Stone book novel itself. Her love for the great outdoors was full of Vibrations and carried over to our groups personalities. I could go on and on revealing to you all of the many things that you'll never regret taking the plunge to check off your bucket list, But I'll leave it at this you won't regret one moment of this trip! With the right guide and group this will be a memory of a lifetime that you'll cherish forever. I highly recommend this tour 110%. I rate this 5 stars, and personally I will be doing this again! Thank you Scenic Safaris for your hospitality and person ability to interact sharing some of the worlds best views and sites I've ever personally seen. read more

We had SOOO much fun on the side by sides. Its a short drive down the main road of Jackson and then you get to explore extremely scenic trails. We found a lovely little creek and got to take it all in. I would definitely recommend the 4 hour rental so you don't feel rushed. Service was awesome - Rosa, Lexi and Collin helped us out and really just made the trip 5 star from start to finish. Would highly recommend this if you're in the area. read more

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This was the best experience. Not only did I check a major box on my bucket list, but I spent the day with people I genuinely enjoyed. I would recommend this to anyone. Joe is amazing - he took us on a snowmobile tour and we saw and experienced more than we ever intended to. Thanks to Joe and the scenic safari staff for a great day. read more

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Brandon led a great ATV trip through the mountains. Would recommend to anyone looking for some fun in the backcountry

HIGHLIGHT OF OUR TRIP! My family had a reunion here at JH and decided to do a full-day tour with Scenic Safari. There were 12 of us so we had the whole van full to ourselves. Ryan picked us up right on time and proceeded to give us the best day of the vacation. Although the elk, deer, geothermal pools, fountain clay pots, waterfalls, old faithful, and other sights were all amazing, the best part of the trip was Ryan himself! He was a WEALTH of knowledge about the park, animals, and sights. He knew the best times to be at the sights and the best ways to get there. He would constantly point out animals on the side of the road that we hadn't even seen, and spotted a herd of deer 1000 yards away by their antlers sticking up from the tall grass. AMAZING! If you're going to Jackson Hole in the summer and want to do a tour of Teton National Park and Yellowstone in the coolest vehicle around, Scenic Safari is the way to go. And, if you're going to get a tour from Scenic Safari, MAKE SURE RYAN IS YOUR GUIDE! Thanks Ryan! read more

We had an awesome day of winter sightseeing in Yellowstone. The early pickup went smoothly and we were our way. The vans/trucks are very comfortable and designed perfectly to view the gorgeous winter landscape along the drive. We stopped on our way to Yellowstone for the morning sunrise looking at the Grand Tetons. Gorgeous! Our first stop in the National Park was Old Faithful and the timing was perfect to see the full geyser's eruption. After that we were able to complete the West Loop with so many incredible stops along the way which even included Yellowstone Canyon and Falls. We also were thrilled to see so much wildlife; Bison in abundance, coyotes, fox, pine marten. Katie was a fantastic driver and guide. She provided a breakfast, lunch and snacks and made many stops for the bathrooms. We were very comfortable and loved the total experience. This is a must do to see the unbelievable beauty of Yellowstone in the winter snow. read more

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We had a fantastic all day trip to Yellowstone. Ree was an amazing guide- HIGHLY recommend asking for her. We had two kids and they did great. Bring a ton of warm stuff- you cannot overdress. It's a long day, but they give you a great breakfast and lunch and it's well worth it. Ree knew a ton about the park but also let us take it all in. She walked us around Old Faithful and pointed out some great things. Saw otters and bison so that was fun. Super fun and really worth it. read more

So just finished snowmobiling Yellowstone with Scenic Safaris.What a great trip! If you have not done this, it should be on your bucket list! Seeing Old Faithful erupt with just a 100 or so people around is just one part. The park covered in snow should not be missed. Six sleds and great knowledgeable guide (thanks Chris!). Easily worth the money, but you also get a hearty breakfast and lunch and all the gear you need. If you're in the area in the winter, it's a must do. read more

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Such a wonderful day going on the Yellowstone day Safari with Cooper. He was knowledgeable about the area and told us about many things we wouldn't have known. Took us to great location where we saW Bison, trumpet swan and a one of a kind silver fox. Breakkfasrt and lunch were good and was a great day. Highly Reccomend read more

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Great atv day. Getting started was a bit slow. It other then that this is a good outfit. Would suggest to anyone. Plan ahead as they sell out early. read more

We planned our entire vacation around going on a snowmobile tour of Yellowstone we booked 2-3 months in advance only to wake up 24 hours before to a voicemail saying they had to cancel our trip due to a guide shortage. 24 hours isn't enough advance notice when we already had spent lots of money to travel and plan this vacation. Would not trust this company. read more

Dakota was a fantastic guide for our half day snowmobiling tour. He had fantastic information about the area, was very professional and friendly. My wife and i had never ridden snowmobiles before and he was patient and thorough with explaining how the machines work, and we were in our way. Beautiful scenery on the trails, and an exciting opportunity to go as fast as we were comfortable in an open field. I would definitely recommend this company for snowmobiling! read more

We travelled all the way from Australia to visit Yellowstone. In advance, we booked a snowcoach shuttle from Flagg to Old Faithful Snow Lodge for February with Scenic Safaris. Scenic Safaris mistakenly booked us for our Feb dates in March, despite us communicating via email and phone that we wanted to book in for Feb. We only discovered this after arriving in Flagg, and Scenic Safaris accused us of making the error, and the Branch Manager refused to co-operate with us to find a compromise that would work. Due to this, we were unable to visit Yellowstone, and have wasted thousands of dollars in flights, accommodation, taxis and other travel costs. To date, we have had no resolution from Scenic Safaris, and no offer of alternative services, refunds or anything to make up from this ludicrously terrible experience. DO NOT BOOK. AVOID AT ALL COSTS. read more

We had an outstanding experience with this tour company - we did two separate tours: one was a full day snowmobiling tour through Yellowstone and the other was a half day luxury motor coach tour through Grand Teton/Bridger Teton and the Elk Refuge. Booking online was a breeze and when we called to modify the time, that was also no problem. They gave us a small discount for booking both tours. The snowmobiling tour was intense. We went in the dead of January and it snowed heavily the entire day. Wet, heavy, sloppy snow. Our tour guide was upbeat and informative - turns out most people in these parts are in fact transplants and the majority moved out here to fly fish in the summer and do winter sports on the side! We were picked up from our hotel and driven to Flag Ranch, where we had a decent breakfast and were given all the gear we needed. You only need to wear base layers, they'll give you shoes, a snowmobile suit, helmet and gloves! Our team kept together well and managed to trek 40-50mph the entire day. It's about 90 miles round trip, so not for the unmotivated! We crossed the Continental Divide multiple times, saw Old Faithful blow, walked through iridescent hot springs and definitely felt connected to the park and its natural surroundings. What an experience! The half day wildlife tour was less exciting but still great - we saw elk, bison, rams and moose. Our guide was conversationally informative and very relaxed. Another transplanted fly fisher! Overall we felt that there was decent value for money with Scenic Safaris and we got the adventures of a lifetime. read more

We had an amazing time on our snowmobiling trip to Togwotee. Mikey was a fantastic guide, made sure everyone was having a great time, and was super knowledgeable about the area. The lunch at Brooks Lake Lodge was delicious, and the lodge itself was beautiful. The views can't be beat on that trip. Scenic Safaris was a great company to work with - very flexible and helpful. We will definitely be coming back for another tour and recommending to friends. read more

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My wife had never been on a snowmobile before and it had been many years for me. Our slight apprehension about the snowmobiles and cold were soon replaced by sheer delight and excitement. From the pick up in Jackson through the drive up, the tour and the return our guide Joe P. was absolutely wonderful. Inside of Yellowstone while you experience views and vistas you can never experience in summer and with the throngs of visitors that come with that time of year. If this is not on your bucket list you need to add it and I would definitely do it again if the opportunity arises! read more

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Went on a snowmobiling trip to Brooks Lake with the family. Our guide Blake was AMAZING. Not only did he really know his stuff - always felt very very safe - but he's a great guy and showed us a really good time. Highly recommend! We had a blast. read more