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    Stubb’s Waller Creek Amphitheater

    3.3 (188 reviews)
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    Closed 11:00 am - 9:00 pm

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    Porta Potties and Benches
    Tiffany J.

    Amazingly, Stubb's has managed to survive the ever changing landscape of Austin. Until recently, I hadn't been to Stubb's in many years. I'm so happy that Stubb's is still around (R.I.P. La Zona Rosa, Austin Music Hall, The Backyard, Erwin Center, The Parish) and it hasn't relocated (Emo's, Antone's). It may be surrounded by apartments and hotels, but for the most part, it is still the Stubb's that I remember from 20 years ago (minus a few changes to the amphitheater). I saw Teddy Swims a few weeks ago. It was a sold out show and the line to get in was literally down 9th street. It took about 30 minutes to get in. They had a clear bag policy in place. Oddly, they still searched items in clear bags which seemed to defeat the purpose. They've made some changes to the outdoor stage. VIP is in the back and is much larger than the old balcony. There's a dedicated area for porta potties and picnic tables in the back between the bar and VIP. They also had an area that served food. The lines at the bar were long, but they actually moved pretty quickly. The bartenders were super nice and gave generous pours. Drinks were reasonably priced for a music venue (cocktails were $12). The sound quality was great! I was able to find a spot in the back where I could see the stage and still have some space to move around. Teddy killed it as always! What an amazing musician! They had an after show indoors. Anyone with tickets to the main show could go for free (otherwise tickets for the after show were $10). It was a local band called Retro Cowgirl and they weren't bad. The inside small stage looks exactly the same as I remembered it! I have so many memories there including meeting my best friend of nearly 20 years at a Marc Broussard concert back in 2005. There's minimal street parking now that they've built apartments and hotels. I parked at a surface lot a few blocks away at First Baptist Church. I'm so happy that I was able to see a show at Stubb's. I don't get to go to shows in Austin as much anymore, but this was such a treat!

    Royal Otis
    Jinx R.

    We tried to stand near the front but it smelled so bad like rotten eggs in the first few rows and had to move to the back. I'm not sure what it was but smelled like sewage and ruined the experience. They also only have porta potties (almost all were gross and dirty). There's also a tree you can see in the picture (when we moved farther back) that covered half the stage. Not to be anti tree but either move the stage or don't place it behind a tree where it's covering the singer and everything that's going on. The one thing I liked was the sound and that kept me from giving it a one star. There was also no good place to stand and actually see the show bc there was no slop to the ground and it was just flat. When we went super far to the back was when we actually were able to see the stage.overall poorly built amphitheater, smells bad, took abt an hour to check people in but performers were great.

    Vulfpeck bringing the crowds !
    Mary G.

    It's been a while since I've been to stubbs and 10+ years later it's just how I remember it. Kudos for consistency as it's a classic Austin spot... but unfortunately the parts that were consistent are the parts I don't personally enjoy about it. Our friend group arrived about 30 minutes before the show started and were able to get a spot about halfway back from the stage in the crowd. Unfortunately since it's all about the same level, they gave up their spots half way through since they were too short to see anything anyway. We came about 10 minutes before the show started and got a solid spot on the edge of the crowd. We were behind the big tree though so also couldn't see anything. It really seems like the way to go is to either be in VIP or be the first ones there. The line to get in flowed really well which was awesome ! It's important to note their bag policy. I definitely recommend just opting for a clear bag if you plan to bring one. They have a few bars around which helps the lines move quickly. I have to give them props for their portapotty situation! They have tons and they're all clean. Somehow it doesn't smell absolutely horrible where they are either. Plus they have running soap and water to wash your hands (yay) Overall it's a classic venue and great for shows but I don't personally enjoy coming here as you don't have much chance to get a good view of the show.

    Indoor Concert Area
    Kristen N.

    I attended a show as part of Red River Cultural District's Free Week. The show was held on the smaller indoor stage instead of the larger outdoor one - even though it was winter, it was very hot inside likely due to the crowding. Checking in was very smooth, but I would hesitate to attend another show here due to how crowded the space was, even for a small act.

    The stage
    Wes E.

    This review is based on my visit to see the band First Aid Kit on 9/13/23 (an ordinary Wednesday night, not a weekend). The primary feeling I got from attending a show at SWCA (if I may use that acronym) is of being processed, akin to cattle being herded into a huge pen. Pay $20 for parking, then get in a long line and go through airport-type security, clear bag/tiny bags only, please (because this is, after all, Texas, a mass-shooting-friendly state, you never know who's going to pop off), then pay between $8 and $16 for a can of beer at the concession stand, then stand and wait an interminable time for the opening act to get onstage. If you want to use a bathroom, there is a dedicated section of porta potties in the back which allows for privacy, at least. I'm not even going to mention the average ticket price, but it ain't cheap. There is, I reiterate, no place to sit in the SWCA aside from the toilets or some picnic benches in the back (unless you decide to sit on the ground, or pay extra for "premium seating" on a balcony overlooking the stage), which is fine when you're 23 but not so great when you're in your 50s or 60s and are obliged to stand for several hours. If it rains, it rains; try to get under a tree and deal with it. It's not a place to go if you like amenities, dislike crowds, appreciate being treated with consideration, dislike the feeling of being ripped off, or all four. Pro tip, if you decide to go: Leave before the last song (or at least the last encore) to beat the crowds at the exit. That's Red River for you. Mr. Stubblefield is rolling in his grave.

    My daughter and I having a blast! Even though we got a little rained on.
    Hannah L.

    This place is nice and small for a music venue. Get there early if you like the band so you can get a good spot in line! The venue is very cute and a decent size. For being outside, it was still really great sound. We were all the way at the front (like 2 people behind the front barricade), and the sound wasn't mega cray loud, but when I went for a drink, I could still hear it just as loud. Great sound balance! The one things that sucks about this place is that it is outdoors. Meaning that when it rains, it can affect the show you're going to see. For this show, they ended up starting it 2 hours earlier and then cutting it short before the next big storm clouds arrived. I will give it to this venue that they were able to accommodate and we at least got to see all the bands and hear probably half of their set. Again though, I'd just be weary that if a band you ABSOLUTELY LOVE, there may be some disappointment if the clouds decide to cry. Another thing is that the bar and food stands DO NOT TAKE APPLE PAY. of course the one time I try to use Apple Pay so I don't have to carry my wallet, and they end up not taking it. So also heads up on that for everyone that uses their phone to pay for things. The end.

    Vulfpeck
    Kelsea K.

    Why does every single value have to up-charge food & drink costs so much?! That's the only reason they don't get 5*. Lines were well managed coming in, and there's many food & drink spots within to get what you want and find a spot to stand for the show. We saw Vulfpeck here & found an OK spot by the back fence. Luckily, the breeze that night helped us keep cool. The 6+ - foot-tall group in front of us, however, blocked most of our view, so I had to watch most of the show by holding my phone up as far as my arms could reach. #ShortPeopleProblems #AlsoPSAtoTheTallPeople

    Stage November 2022
    Marissa G.

    I have been to this venue several times for concerts. It's an outdoor standing room only place that holds 2500 people. I check their website to see what bands are coming and buy tickets online for the bands I want to see. There is no designated parking at this venue. You have to park and pay wherever you can find parking near the venue. When you get to the venue you have to go through security. Ladies make sure you take a see through bag. Also have your tickets and ID ready to show at the entrance. Inside the venue there are portapotty bathrooms and a sink area with running water to wash your hands. There is a bar that sells water and drinks. I went to see Awolnation back in November of 2022. I got to the venue a little after they opened the doors and found a spot off to the side but semi close to the stage. I'm short so I have to be high enough to where I can see. If I try to get close to the stage it's impossible unless you are in the very front. It's a lot of time on your feet so I'd advise taking comfortable shoes. The outdoor atmosphere is cool but because it's outside I would suggest checking the weather before heading there. I had a good experience watching Awolnation.

    Nick Shoulders
    Desiree H.

    It was our first time visiting this venue and it was great! They were giving our waters for us because it was one of the hottest days this summer. Regardless of the heat we all enjoyed the place. Didn't get to try the food but it smelled so good! Definetly would go back! Nick and Sierra did not disappoint, they are amazing performers and the energy was perfect

    Amphitheater
    Katy C.

    I liked this venue for a show in March. They had plenty of drink counters so we never had to wait long to order drinks, the port-a-potties were clean, and the picnic table area was nice if you wanted to take a break from standing. We were all the way in the back and the view wasn't wonderful there, especially for us short people, but the sound was good and we had a great time. There are places nearby to grab food and drinks before or after your show, including a couple food trucks that said they would be out there til pretty late. It's nice to have options so I appreciated that. I'd definitely come see another show here if I have the chance.

    Wale is performing for last day for AfroTech
    AJ B.

    What a cool hidden amphitheater! I had no idea this place existed and I've passed by it a million times, it's so big on the inside despite how it looks curbside! I attended the AfroTech day party and Wale performed! They have great food and drinks including the pulled pork sandwich with an amazing green sauce & a whiskey ginger ale which is a great mix. The customer service is awful, considering the type of event and people attending vs the type of people who work at the establishment gave a really bad vibe, like I wonder if it's always like that or if it's because of the event. Otherwise I had an amazing time, the concert was great, the venue was spacious, the food was great.

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    Ask the Community - Stubb’s Waller Creek Amphitheater

    Liberty lounge tickets do I need to also buy a GA ticket?

    No, VIP includes GA access.

    If I bought VIP tickets to the venue. Do I have the option to stand in general admission?

    Yes. You typically get a wristband that allows you to go everywhere except backstage and staff-only areas.

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    Review Highlights - Stubb’s Waller Creek Amphitheater

    I've mostly seen shows in the outdoor venue, but I have to say, the indoor venue is also GREAT.

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    Stubb’s Waller Creek Amphitheater - musicvenues - Updated July 2026

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