This was a last minute booking for my friend and I on our roadtrip through MI. The rates were extremely ideal for the cabin since it was the weekend and hotel prices were hiked up so it was a no brainer to stay here. They were not luxury but they were clean. The beds and pillows were clean and comfortable. We would have booked a waterfront but there were harmless flying bugs EVERYWHERE (everywhere where there was water in MI not just the Beach House) and they weren't as bad at the front road cabins. Apparently, there are a couple weeks in the spring when these bugs migrate and fly and they only live for a day or less. They did not bother me in any way. The staff was amazing. I don't recall his name but he has worked there for years. He was so helpful with info on the shuttle and ferry to Mackinaw Island and he was kind. The owners better not lose him! read more

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Very "rustic", the room was clean, there were plenty of towels, the shower was ok, just took a while to warm up, the bed was decent. The man at the desk could not have been nicer, or more helpful. Look, this isn't the Hilton, but it serves it's purpose. read more

A great rustic place to stay. You walk out of your door and you are on a sandy Beach. No halls to navigate, no elevators- just beach. Martin is great and quickly addresses any issue. read more

We have stayed at the Beach House several times for years. The owner is AWESOME!! EXCELLENT customer service!! The cabins are clean, private and the beds are really comfortable! We love the location! Right on the lake. It's quiet. THANK YOU!!! This is the ONLY place we will stay in Mackinac City. read more

I've stayed at better places, but I have also stayed at worse places. The cabin was a bit rustic for my taste, but it was clean. The AC worked, and lately that's a plus. The shower in the tiny bathroom was awesome, but at my freakish height, the shower head was around my chest. Manager was a bit gruff (see above), but we didn't interact but for a few times. I'd stay there again in a pinch, but I'd get the newer cabins, but only WHEN they get the kitchen working. (See above) It's a great location... a very short drive or longish walk to the nearest beach park. Three stars since it was on the beach and bug/vermin free. read more

We stayed at this place for a couple of nights and were satisfied with what we got for our money. We actually reserved this thru the Mackinaw City Chamber of Commerce and that saved us a few bucks. We were given our choice of cabin when we arrived and we picked the one that best suited our needs.....a table at which to sit and play cards and a little couch. The little couch was really not all that comfortable, but it was better than sitting on a bed all of the time. This particular cabin had been recently renovated so it was pretty clean. There was a little "kitchen" area where we were able to set up the Keurig that we always travel with. There was also a little microwave and their coffee maker. The bed was comfortable and it was a short walk to the beach where there were chairs to sit on while looking at the beautiful water. We had friends visit us while we stayed there and one of them lost their debit card on the beach. We alerted the guy that was in the office and when someone found it he quickly contacted us to let us know that it was in his possession. Edited* Since writing this review I have learned that this place is owned by LIEGHIO ENTERPRISE INC, a pretty shady outfit. I made our reservations thru the Mackinaw City Chamber of Tourism (not to be confused with The Mackinaw City Chamber of Commerce). Evidently the Chamber of Tourism is also owned by this family. I could not understand why, when we checked in, the manager told us that we were lucky that the Chamber did not tell him to move us elsewhere as the city was filling up and with supply and demand they could make more money by forcing us to one of their other motels and re-renting our cabin to higher paying individuals. Evidently there was some small print on our reservation that I failed to see. Buyer beware! We will NOT be staying here again, nor will we ever stay in any of the other hotels/motels that LIEGHIO owns. read more

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Awesome beach front view of fireworks from the front porch. I'll be back and reserve the same cabin on the next trip. read more

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After a weekend in Chicago, we decided to head up to Michigan for a couple more days and visit Mackinaw City and Mackinac Island. We were in a pinch to find a place to stay last minute. The Beach House to the rescue! We get there way ahead of the time we were supposed to check in, but the man (who is professional and super friendly) told us we could park in one of the empty spots while we go explore. So cool, right? We go to Mackinc Island and back, and venture to The Beach House to grab our cabin and hit the beach. We get this little 1 bedroom shack of a cabin which was absolutely perfect for our stay, and reasonably priced given the last minute aspect and the views we got to enjoy. We ended up sitting on the beach for most of the evening, watching the sunset and the moon rise under blankets. It was quiet, calm, and so relaxing. When we go back to Mackinaw City, we will definitely be staying here again. It's very affordable and in such a desirable location. It's a mile walk to the ferry for Mackinac Island, so we didn't even need to move our car once we arrived. The Beach House was a great find and we made a lot of memories here. read more

The Beach House - Our little cottage. - Guest Houses Near Me - Mackinaw City, Michigan

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My family has been vacationing in Mac and staying at the Beach House for almost as long as I can remember. Seriously. Went back again this summer and nothing has changed. (But that's OK.) This is not the sort of place you stay if you need lots of amenities. This is the sort of place you stay when you would be OK camping if it weren't for the lack of power and plumbing. They provide a secure roof over your head in a good location with facilities that are a bit dated, but everything in the units we had worked just fine. One had a brand-new apartment-style fridge, and the other a smaller mini-fridge. Both had two-burner electric hot plates and towels, but that's it. We brought our own pots, pans, dish soap, dishes, etc. The cabins were built in the early '60s, and look it, but they are well maintained; just a few more years and people will flock here for that "vintage hotel" feel! They have a very nice stretch of beach that's well maintained, featuring lots of adirondack chairs and a purpose-built fire pit with bench seating around it. There's a couple charcoal grills available, too. Have I mentioned the location/view? Gorgeous view, great location - just far enough out of the downtown area that there's not crazy traffic, but it's close enough that you can be to the ferries in about 5 minutes, or even ride or walk if you're so inclined. If you're of the biking persuasion, they're right across the street from a section of trail that's beautiful and connects to over 100 miles of trails that spider throughout the state. The cabins are pretty close together, so if you're looking for that secluded in the woods feeling, you won't find that here. But in my experience, the folks here tend to be friendly and accomodating, and the owner/proprietors live on-site, so they're around to deal with people that might be unruly. read more

The Beach House - The view south-east from our porch. - Guest Houses Near Me - Mackinaw City, Michigan

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The cabins and grounds were in good condition. The location is awesome, readily accessible and close to many of the attractions of Mackinaw. Upon arrival we were given the opportunity to upgrade without pressure. The staff were very friendly, and helpful. We will go back in the future. read more

I wish we would have read the reviews on Yelp before going. I believe the reviews on the hotel website are censored. The cottage we recently stayed in was very nice and clean. The manager running the place was very unprofessional and unpleasant. Many of the unpleasant reviews on here were exactly almost word for word what we also experienced from Martin. His go to threat when he doesn't want to hear how unpleasant he is treating you is "he can kick us out and I should have never checked you in in the first place." I wish we would have spent our money at another establishment and I would not recommend anyone staying there because of Martin. Our group rented 4 cabins from him that week. None of us would ever stay there again. read more

Traveling with a small dog, checking in was easy and the check in desk allowed us to view cabins to determine what fit our needs. He even came by after we checked in and gave us a ball to play with our dog...very thoughtful. Giving 4 stars only because the beach had dog poop that other dog owners did not pick up...who does this when traveling with a dog? There are kids around playing on the beach and dog poop in the sand? Come on dog owners respect your area and pick up after your dogs! The cabin was clean and a ton of towels which I appreciated. I would stay here again, but start to pick up after your dogs...this makes a bad situation for people who travel with dogs and respect the places we stay. read more

Do not go there. The manager was extremely rude. I wanted to book a reservation and had a couple of questions as we would be coming along way. He spoke very rudely and told me to go online for my questions. When I asked why he was being rude he told me that all I want is for him to kiss his f**king a** just like everyone who comes through here. I told him he was rude and I will not be visiting and I suggest you dont either. read more

There are little cabins rather than a single unit motel. Some are right on the beach. They are cozy and quaint. Excellent view of the Big Mac from the beach. Coffee and freshly baked muffins in the morning. Great value! read more

The Beach House - View of the Big Mac from the beach - Guest Houses Near Me - Mackinaw City, Michigan

My family just spent three nights at The Beach House and we couldn't be happier. The cottages were lovely. We were in number 23 and our front door opened to the beach and Lake Huron. Our young kids had a great time jumping in the lake and then warming up in the warm 90 degree pool. Our cottage was clean and perfect, larger than a hotel room and much more private, yet, still with daily room service, WiFi, cable, and fresh linens. I don't have a single complaint, we enjoyed every second. The Beach House was also close enough for us to to take some awesome day trips. We went to Mackinac Island, Fort Michilimackinac, Tahquamenon Falls, the Soo Locks, and Cross in the Woods. It was lovely and I hope to stay again next year. read more

We booked 2 nights here on our way back from the U.P. To Cleveland. We left after 1 night and cut our trip short. This place is dirty. Bathroom floors were sticky, shower basically had a trickle of water coming out, couches were dirty, kitchen sink stained black. Notice there are no pictures on their website of the bathroom it's because it's foul. Front office person Martin was unfriendly; complained entire time about new owners while checking us in. When asked about the shower it was like I was bothering him. Many people gave this place 4 & 5 stars; sure it's on the beach which is nice. Maybe for $40 a night but not $135! Oh and those fresh baked muffins had a dirty towel thrown over them to keep them warm. Read another review that at the end of the season the place will be demolished; I hope they do. read more

I'll start with positive first. The location was great. You can't beat the view and being steps from the lake. With that being said that's about all the positives. The beach was unkept, "dirty" not with trash but sticks, pine cones and pine needles, all hurts when stepped on. Our cottage was obviously beachside, which was great hearing the waves and the view. The place is super old, apparently built is 1937 or so I was told. The interior was old, very outdated and not the cleanest. See pictures. There were tons of dead mosquitoes in the window sills. Only one of our windows would open. There weren't enough outlets, I'd suggest bringing a power strip. The outlet by the door anything plugged there kept falling out. The 2 outlets behind each of the headboards was unusable because the headboards were attached to the wall. There was a lamp on the dresser but no outlet to plug it into. Wallpaper peeling, stained tub and sink, very unsightly. The front desk guy told me he got the in-room coffee pots at a yard sale. Speaking of the front desk guy, he was initially friendly, but clearly hates his job. He complained and whined about every aspect of his job. Seems inappropriate to openly complain about your workload and your employer in front of guests. It makes people uncomfortable. Offered discount tickets to area attractions upon check-in but was super "put out" when we came back to purchase tickets. The shower temperature would not stay regulated, it would be stable then get super hot and when turned down a little it would be freezing. We stayed 4 days at The Beach House, one morning they were I guess cleaning out the septic tanks, we were sitting in the cottage and the smell was horrific. The sewage smell was nauseating. I was advised by the maintenance man not to use the microwave while many other electronics were running as it would blow a fuse and I would have to call him back in. Also one last thing that I will mention, I found super odd, there was no telephone. I don't know if it would be much of a dealbreaker because most have a cellphone these days, but I still thought it was weird. read more

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We went there recently. Wow, what a ripoff. I give one star extra for location, but that's it. WiFi never worked, the whole place and especially the bathroom smelled like pee. My daughter almost lost a finger operating one of the windows. The staff was no help either and let's not talk cleanliness... read more

I'm disappointed to have to leave a one star review and would probably leave zero stars if it was possible. The cabin we stayed in was nice and it was great staying right on the beach but unfortunately the manager, Martin, ruins my recommendation for staying here. From the moment we arrived all he did was complain that he was overworked. He was very rude and has no people skills whatsoever. We had rented one of the newer cottages and expected to have a full kitchen because that is what the website photos show. That was one of the main reasons we chose to stay there so that we could cook our meals and save money on eating out. When he took us to the cabin he told us that the stove/oven was not usable due to the city not allowing gas. He said there is a toaster oven and a two burner plug in thing we could use. When I expressed my concern and unhappiness about this because we had a large party that rented 4 cabins there and that little toaster oven would not be big enough to cook for our families he said to me, "What do you plan on cooking? A Turkey?" And "Who cooks on vacation?" And continued to say "I shouldn't have checked you in and I should just give you your money back and you can find somewhere else to stay". On another day my sister and I went to the office to buy ferry tickets to the island and he didn't want to help us. He became very hostile and told us we had been barking at him since the moment we arrived and he should just kick us out. He also talked bad about us to other family members. This man is very unprofessional and will make your stay miserable. We all travelled from far away and even had several people come all the way from Texas to stay here. None of us would recommend staying here as long as Martin is still around! Beware! read more

You stay here for the independence of having your own little cottage, as that is what they are. If you get one with a view on the lake that's a BONUS! There are coffee and muffins available at check-in in the am. Muffins were raisin/banana?, bran?? Good enough for being complimentary (a big job for someone to do on a regular basis!!) And the coffee was good, but no foo foo creamers if that's your thing. I think I saw one of the owners while getting coffee. He said hello and was pleasant. $$ Value: Even though I checked inexpensive, I can't say if the price was right or not. I didn't do the leg work in securing the place, nor do I know what the other areas charge. And there are hotels after hotels after motels on the strip. So best guess at that. :( Sorry Outside: Small portable charcoal grills (bring your own charcoal, starter fluid and utensils), volleyball net (bring your own ball), bonfire pit (I think wood is supplied??) and horsehoe pit (maybe the owners have the shoes??) are available for your use (as a whole, not privately). Shuttle fare provided w/ your stay if you are going to the island. Pets allowed. Ice bin and a soda vending machine are on site. Each site is provided with two adirondack chairs on the porch. There are picnic tables also, but unsure if each of the water front sites have their own. I think most do. A swing and other adirondack chairs on the beach for everyone's use. An indoor pool and a hot tub house - nothing fancy, but it works. Bleached my shorts, though! (long story as to why I didn't have a bathing suit) and made my daughters suit run in color once hung up. It's a small and quaint feel. The Straights are beautiful, and you could walk out forever before actually swimming. (Kids preferred the indoor pool.) Inside: We had a double bed room w/ a kitchenette on the lake. Kitchenette consisted of a small sink, a broom (but no dust pan. hmmm), small trash can w/ two liners, some shelves, a mini fridge (took a while to get cold, but worked great once it did; also pulled it out from the wall a bit), and a two burner portable electric stove top (pots/pans not provided; it's like camping, you bring everything else you need.) I wish that was stated a little better on their website. You are provided with toilet paper, a small bar of hotel soap, a bucket for your sandy feet (outside), a kitchen wash rag, a tea cloth towel for kitchen use, bathroom hand towels, wash rags and towels, some wooden hangers, a luggage rack, wooden table w/ 4 chairs, 1 nightstand and 1 six drawer dresser. And the wi-fi worked just fine for us! CRT tv's w/ a bit more than basic cable. I ran across HBO! Here's the thumbs down: DON'T expect a towel that covers your body. It's almost an oversized hand towel. They are all lovingly worn down. There ARE spiders (it is a cottage). Beds are awful, bedding has not been updated from the early 80's - nothing has for that matter. Pillows are worn, but I like mine that way :) The shower trickles water - NO PRESSURE. Smells rusty (but none visible), but that's also common with lakefront. The bathroom is tiny and leaves MUCH to be desired. Needs a serious remodel. No room to set anything down on the sinks and lino flooring cracking apart. Carpet in the rooms are berber. Best take your sandy shoes off outside and rinse your feet or your sheets and floor will be covered in sand. Summing it up.... I would stay again if I was looking for the same kind of feel. It's NOT A HOTEL!! Things I would do different: take a coffee pot! Nice to have in the am while sitting outside :) Pack pots n pans if we were eating in. They do need to upgrade the bathrooms. Bring my own body bath towels and more beachy stuff for the kids. Maybe some water shoes and rack for wet towels/bathing suits. read more

Great rate and location being right on the lake. Cottages are adorable BUT ours looked a bit shop worn in the interior. Wallpaper taped to keep it in place, needs a fresh coat of paint, new vanity, light fixtures, etc. it just feels a bit uncomfortable. read more

My family arrived at the Beach House at around noon after a long drive. We were so excited to be in the wonderful city of Mackinaw! We went in to the cozy office and was greeted by Martin AKA "George". Martin was less than happy with us that we arrived early and were rudely reminded that check in wasn't until 4:00 PM stating "You people always do this, come before your supposed to". We politely explained that if the room wasn't ready we would come back. Martin explained that the room was ready and "we can just get this over with now". Martin complained the entire time we were in the office about all of his frustrations, how he only has one key to the cottages now because "everyone must be stealing them or something", that he couldn't check us in until he checked the other people out of the room which by the way he was acting while doing this you would have thought he had to give up his right kidney. Then Martin asked if we changed our reservation because what we booked wasn't available. Martin to the rescue by charging us more for a cabin we didn't reserve, what a guy! The cabins are shit holes, the air didn't work well and the beach is terribly unkempt with cigarette butts and sticks. The mini fridge in one of our rentals smelled so horrific, it was rendered useless. The cabin door automatically locked behind us as the kids ran out so excited to swim and this lead to our next encounter with Martin. We walked into the office and there was no Martin...about 5 min later Martin appeared and stated angrily "I was trying to take a nap". My sister in law joked with him and said "we'll Good Morning". But Martin was NOT joking. We asked him for help opening the door and he again complained about how he only has one key. My sister-in- law told Martin about the fridge and asked for a new one. Martin threw an adult tantrum! He said "why is it always you people that only stay one night that cause so many problems complaining about everything. I am sure it smells so bad, the worst thing you have ever smelled in your life. What do you want me to do take it out and drag it out on the beach?". At this point, we were no longer polite. I explained that none of his complaints were our problem, we are guests and cannot believe that he is speaking to us in this manner. Martin proceeded to say "I don't care, what do you want me to do kiss your ass". If it wasn't for my children, I would have walked right out...but Martin said the owners "wouldn't give a discount to their dying grandma", so we sucked it up and went back to the beach. Martin came to open the door and complained yet again that he has hardly had any sleep, I made sure to tell him I didn't give a shit. We did get our fridge replaced by a very nice maintenance man and enjoyed our family time. I will NEVER stay at the Beach House again and will be emailing the owners regarding the behavior of the main person representing this establishment. Apparently the owners own "half the town" per Martin but I hope they will take my concerns seriously! Martin needs to be fired, take anger management classes, get a filter and some compression stockings! What a cocksucker! He is lucky that my husband wasn't present for this, Martin would have gone missing! read more

This was an awful place to stay! I used to stay here with my parents and would go to Mackinac island several times during the summer! We'd stay at the beach house a lot, but that is when it was owned by much nicer more accommodating people. After I booked a two nights stay through Expedia I called to let them know we were bringing our dog. The manager Martin said that he would give us a bigger cabin to accommodate us. The morning as we headed north the beach house manager, Martin called my cell and asked if we wanted to stay at one of their other hotels and that he would give us a suite at the same rate that we would have paid with them. He said they overbooked that weekend. Which apparently is untrue from what I read on other reviews this is their way to get the one to two night stay customers out to get longer staying customers in. I told Martin we would stay at the other hotel as long las they take dogs. He said they do not so he said he would see us around 4 pm to check us in at the beach house, When we arrived around 3 pm Martin was not so happy to see us. I could tell just by looking at his intense starring face that he was not having a good day. He said our room was not ready and then he proceeded to tell me that they were under staffed and over worked. He then stated that he told the owners that they should not allow dogs to stay there because they shed and it takes longer to clean the cabins after a dog stayed there. I told him our dog sheds he pointed to this long sheet of paper about their dog policy. I was so irritated with him at this point! I thought to myself "Know your audience before you speak!" Plus if the owners didn't want dogs there then they should take it off Expedia so that dog owners know that this is not a place to stay if you are bringing your dog with you on your vacation. Once we got onto our cabin (#9) it was so tiny! It wasn't a queen bed it was a double and it wasn't big at all to accommodate us and our dog. We sucked it up and stayed there. It was supposed to be a two nights stay when I booked it through Expedia, but when I looked at the sales receipt I only paid for a one night stay! Thank goodness I read that on the receipt because we would have left are belongings there and left for the island the next day thinking we had another night there. I will never stay here again. Terrible room and terrible customer service! I read another review out here that said the owners of this place also own several other businesses around Mackinaw City. Well, we definitely will try to avoid those places as well sounds like they are buying up the whole town and treating people badly. I used to like coming up north, but now I think we will be heading down south for our vacations instead! read more

I'm giving this a three star because of this:. The cottage itself I would give 1 1/2 stars. Very old inside. Bad plumbing, nasty sinks, stained couch ( I wouldn't even sit on it...had to put a sheet on it.) Had a microwave and fridge. The clean crew seemed to clean it well, but they can't do much about age and stains. The beach and views i would give 4.5 stars. Beautiful view of the bridge, nice Sandy Beach, and a view of Mackinac island and the boats coming in. So, depending in what's important to you, this may or may not be the place for you!! read more

The rooms are ok. But the manager needs some people skills or some stopwhine pills. All he did was tell us how bad he has it.how tired he is .went in to get coffee and to get tickets for island at about 7:20. And was promptly told that he didn't have time to sell the tickets to come back before we wanted to go.that he doesn't open until 7:30 but apparently some people can't tell time. We called the shuttle ourselves and bought our tickets there. Won't deal with this person again. Won't be back. read more

This place has a beautiful spot on the beach. The cabins are rustic but who cares. You're busy sightseeing most of the time anyways. But mostly it's terrific not having the neighbors too close. The other thing is we even got to have our dog stay with us. The couple that owns this are lovely too and welcoming. read more

We arrived on Sat at 4:30pm for a four night stay and from the time I walked into the office until the time my husband and I left the following day, we felt like a nuisance to the owner. She made a point of saying she already charged me for the night due to the time I arrived? 4:30 PM not AM??? We ended up eating the cost of another days stay and checked out after that one and only night. We ended up booking another pet friendly place the Super 8 Beachfront for the remainder of our trip. Which was 100x better then there! Maxine (owner) was not nice at all! There are rules for just about everything. The cooler had to remain outside due to condensation on the old Berber carpeting. Really?!?!?! Our dogs barked a few times and she made it seem like it was the end of the world. The outside of the cottages are cute but the inside were horrible. We did not feel welcomed at all. The bathroom, the furniture in the room, and the air conditioner all needed updated. The noise from the air conditioner in the window kept my dog very nervous as if someone was trying to get into thru the window. The traffic from the highway out front kept rattling the room and our cottage was connected to another one. Breakfast was nasty tasteless muffins and coffee. We could not get out of there quick enough. Do yourself a favor and stay far away from this place. My husband and I are business professionals have traveled and lodged at many places and have never experienced such a terrible time. We were treated like second class citizens! NEVER EVER AGAIN. I would not recommend my worst enemy there! read more

If you are looking for a traditional up-north, Michigan cottage situated in an awesome location, this is it! While the cabins can be a bit small and basic, you really can't beat the grounds they are situated on. The owners, Maxine and Russ, take impeccable care to keep the grounds picture perfect, and for me that goes a long way. If you call to ask about the cottages, Maxine is likely to say, "I can't sell you new, but I can sell you neat and tidy" and boy does she. We rented a beachfront cottage which had a fantastic view of the Mackinac Bridge and Mackinac Island. You literally are just steps away from the water, and the beachfront is absolutely beautiful. There's plenty of adirondack chairs, swings, and picnic tables to use, too. Wood is provided for campfires, as are charcoal grills for grilling which is a nice touch. Did I mention that there's an indoor swimming pool and hot tub? Did I mention Russ and Maxine make you fresh muffins and coffee every morning? Seriously, if you are heading to the Mackinaw area, this place can't be beat! read more

Very underrated in my opinion. If you can't stay on the island - this is the next best option. Room was originally located to be closer to the highway - however the guy working the front desk gave us the option to upgrade to a spot on the beach - which was perfect. Room was located on the corner of the property with nice privacy that was on the beach next to Lake Michigan and looking out at the mackinaw bridge. The resorts fire pit was located right outside of our room also! I like the private buildings vs the standard hotel set up. 4 stars is the most I could give this tho- because it is not a 5 star hotel. However I wasn't expecting one. For my expectations - it's a 5/5. My one complaint is the TV. It's about 20 years old and barely displays a picture - which would have been nice to have a newer one to use when you wanted to relax for the evening. But I didn't drive 700 miles for a nice TV in a hotel room. read more

The person helping with our registration was very helpful but, he made a few references to how the "Asians' that were staying there take everything. He told us twice that he has to watch the free muffins because those "Chinese or whatever they are' try to take them all." He also stated that the corporate office, who only hire foreign girls and most can't speak Englush, only sent one forign girl to clean the rooms which is why our room wasn't ready. "They clean good though." He did kindly place us in another cabin. The cabin was extremely old and in need of updating but, it was clean. There was no hot water for a shower. At checkout time, same man, very pleasant. Told us to take as many muffins as we would like. "Those Asians already tried to take them but, I stopped them." My husband and I smiled at each other and shook our heads in disgust. He saw our exchange and then added, "I'm not kidding. They would walk off with all hundred muffins if I didn't stop them." What he obviously didn't know is that while my husband is often confused as a Native American-he is not. He is 1/4 Chinese. The experience was disheartening to say the least. read more