Yesterday, my mother called to ask my husband and I go to 802 Toyota because she was approached by a salesperson who took her aside after her service, told her she needed a few minutes to discuss something important, and then proceeded to wave a photocopy of a check (with her name on it), telling her that they would like to buy her car for $9199.
My mother, thanked the woman and explained she would need to seek the advice of her daughter, went home, called us, and we scooted right up to support her in this transaction. She called ahead to make an appointment to meet with this woman.
When my husband and I arrived, she was sitting with another salesperson, Sean, and I heard her distinctly ask if "she would get credit for the sale" so I know she was asking why she wasn't meeting with the first woman.
Sean proceeded to introduce himself and began with a song and dance about how 802 is not about gimmicks and they deal honestly and with "real numbers." (My eyes were rolling because I was getting the distinct feeling a shoe was about to drop on the deal).
He asked my mother what her goal was and she explained she wanted to lower her payment. We wanted to talk numbers. He did not. He asked what kind of a car she wanted and after discussing some options, she asked for a very plain version of what she was turning in.
We let him get a car, take my mother out and show her the features (way too much car for her), and let the process play out. Then, he hit her with the question: can we make a deal right now?! (Keep in mind, we still think the original fake check is still on the table.). Wisely, my husband leaned over and said, "let's hear the numbers first."
We went back inside and he said he would have to take a look at the car and do an assessment. Mom immediately picked up on that and wondered why, since they just had the car in their possession. Wait for it!
He returns with another piece of paper with a fake check and now it is $8500! Why? Because, according to him, the car would need a $600 paint job to sell it and it is gold, which sits on the lot longer than other colors!
I point out that he is way below the NADA assessment for a car of its age and mileage and he shuts me up by saying that it is "just a guide." My husband said, but this morning, your own sales staff assessed it at a higher level. Here it comes: "Well, he says, these are estimates (no where on the paperwork does the word estimate appear) that we get based on the VIN number and no inspection. We toss it on the seat as a marketing ploy (hello! Major
Gimmick!)." I stopped him, having to clench my teeth to be polite, and told him that this was NOT left on her seat but that she was escorted to a table and shown this estimate on the heels of a service call and my mother assumed they had done an inspection. I told him he needed to speak to his manager and make sure this never happened again as t appeared they were trying to take advantage of an elderly woman! My mother looked him in the eyes and told him just how she felt and that this was simply wrong.
He excused himself on the premise he would see what he could do to improve the numbers and came back with another offer. By then, my mom was done and decided to keep her car (that she currently has equity in and would lose all that with this deal!). He returned, she said thank you but no thank you and we readied to leave. He got nervous and asked us to wait while he went to get his manager, and she arrived with a lecture, focused directly at my mother (not looking at my husband or I) and apologized for my MOTHER misunderstanding their procedure. I was really mad now and stopped her in mid -sentence. My mother did not misunderstand, 802 misrepresented themselves and their intentions.
I will never go to them again. Nor will I allow my mother to take her car there for service! We have a wonderful mechanic who we will use in the future! AND, I am reporting these people to the Attorney General's office! read more