Fish and chips and shrimp were great! Chicken tenders not as great. Dry over cooked. Lot of other choices also. read more

I ordered a cauliflower pizza at Gordon Ramsay's food court in Harrah's Cherokee casino around 6:50 pm on 7/16/26 with an outstanding encounter with Mellisa a manager on duty at the time I paid $2.50 more for the cauliflower crust when I bit into it, it tastes chalky to me and tasteless so I went back to let the cashier know that I wanted a regular pizza dough, since I had one before it was so delicious Manager Melissa came out to greet me smiling asked me what would I like to order instead. I mentioned to her that I had the regular crust pizza before Melissa immediately put my order in for a regular pizza and she walked over and gave instructions to the pizza creators I was truly impressed with Mellisa's warm caring disposition given to me with ease I felt with the return and re-ordered Melissa has outstanding customer service skills. That's a rarity today to show compassionate, empathy and going out of her way to make sure my meal was superb quality. I noticed that she was well-dressed professionally with a pleasant voice when she spoke I took in the pleasure to know that 'values' exist through Melissa's disposition was a wonderful experience with an uncomfortable situation of returning a pizza already consumed one slice by me Melissa made an exchange with ease given a warm memorable smile I am wholeheartedly grateful for her assistance this evening Thank You for the positive experience J Motyka read more

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My wife and I went to Harrah's casino for 3 nights from Thursday to Sunday. We came here for lunch on the day of our arrival and most of the restaurants were closed. What kind of food court opens most of the restaurants at 4:00 p.m. like this place? Crazy. We decided to keep wandering around the casino and hotel complex and see what else was available but before we left we stopped at the pub in the food court and ordered a couple of drinks. We had one gin and tonic and one old fashioned for a total of $43 not including the tip. On Saturday for dinner we returned and that was a serious mistake. The crowds were insane. Several people mentioned that they had never seen it this crowded but it was because of Larry the Cable Guy being there that evening for a performance. All ordering is done on a set of self-service kiosks that are in the middle of the food court. That was confusing because everyone had to learn from other people that this is the way you order food. It was especially difficult for some of the more senior citizens and whoever thought about putting this in a casino really needs to be replaced. So after you order at the kiosk you then have to listen for your name to be called at the places you ordered. I ordered from the sushi place and from the burger place so I had to stand between them and wait for my name to be called at one and then the other. It's definitely not user friendly if you're ordering multiple meals from multiple stations. The small few pieces of coconut shrimp with fried rice cost $27. It was worth about 7. My hot dog was $13.95 plus a dollar to upgrade to sweet potato fries. It was a regular hot dog. Each of our small fountain drinks was $3. The drink dispensers were only dispensing foam. Take a look at my photo to see. Grand total of $49. The Chinese dish was ready in 10 minutes but the hot dog took 25 minutes. We would not return here unless everything was open and there were no crowds. Git 'er done! read more

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I loved the selection of eateries here. I spent some time at the casino and whenever I needed a break, I went up to the food court. Whether it's coffee, a pastry, some bottled drinks, or food, everything here is good quality. Of course, we were paying casino prices, but that is expected. No complaints about the food or drinks. The only suggestion would be to have assistance for people who cannot use the kiosks to order and hold up the lines. read more

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We visited the casino while staying at a cabin nearby. I thought it would be cool to say I had something Gordon Ramsey. I really wanted to try the pizza but we were eating at the cabin later so I got a slice of strawberry shortcake and peanut butter pie. Both were good but nothing special. We get home and my husband goes to dinner at a Kickback Jacks and comes home with the exact same Strawberry Shortcake. I felt tricked. read more

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Well, now I know why the ratings here are so poor... At first glance, this GR Food Market (inside Harrah's Cherokee Casino) is a really nice food court... I also liked the variety of food options... everything from Burgers, Tacos and Pizza to Sushi and Fish 'n Chips. Sadly, there were several different issues going on. First of all, we stopped into the Food Court for lunch on Monday, and half of the vendors were closed!! WHAT?!? Food Court not open during weekday for lunch??? I do recall them being open for dinner on Sunday night...but not for Monday lunch. Ridiculous! Also, the few vendors that were open, there were hardly any one-on-one service. They wanted us to do everything via their automated screens (or barcode)..which wasn't the friendliest kinds either. In fact, we felt it was bad business because a majority of folks there (LOTS of Senior Citizens!) seemed quite frustrated with the automated ordering system they were forced to use. Anyway, we both opted to scan the barcode, and order our foods that way...and it too had its problems. I, for one, got ripped off ordering 2 sets of Fries. Why? I ordered a burger (Street Burger), and I don't recall seeing that it came with fries, so I ordered a side of Fries. Total tally of $23...which I thought was a bit too expensive...but that was largely due to the fact I ordered an extra set of fries which I didn't need! Burger was fairly substantial, and better than anticipated...and the Fries were really good. I was still ticked because what I really wanted to order were the Pizza...but when we went by there, and I asked the guy if I can order, he just rudely screamed out, "CLOSED"! (I don't think he spoke English too well). Well, they opened about 5 minutes after that fact...and if he had told me, I would have waited. Instead, I had to resort to a Burger...which really isn't my thing. For all of these reasons, I can't rate them any higher than 2. My husband got the Tacos, and he seemed to like it O-Kay, but not quite thrilled. All in all, the food court experience was beyond disappointing... especially given its potential to be great. Again, why closed for lunch during the week? There were plenty of people waiting to be served! I guess finding staff must have been the issue. In any case, we did agree to return in the future and see if our experience was as fluke, or no... Hopefully I can try the GR Pizza next time?? read more

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I ordered the fish and chips, friend ordered a burger. Food was good, pricey. They do need a better system or better instructions. You place your order in a kiosk, then everyone has to go to the appropriate stations to pick up your food. Lots of people wandering trying to figure it out. read more

Wasn't able to get a reservation at any of the sit down restaurants at Harrah's, as expected when trying to get dinner last minute on a Saturday night so went to Gordon Ramsay's Food Market. The market is essentially an upscale food court of course coming with an upscale price. You order at the kiosk which I my mind was easier then going to each booth and you can order from each booth too if everyone in your party wants something different which I did like. I went with the Fish & Chips which came with 3 pieces of Cod, Fries (which I upgraded to Dirty Chips #3 Cheddar Cheese Sauce and Bacon) and 2 sauces going with the Tartar and Curry Mango. The food came out rather quickly which we expected. The fish was fine. Pretty mild but cooked well. For sure needed the sauce and glad they let you get 2. The Curry Mango was my favorite. Had good flavor, maybe to little too sweet in my option but much better then the Tarter which was just your basic Tarter. I will say the fries might have been the stand out. There where a lot of them and they had plenty of toppings too. Was really surprised by the about of bacon and it was actually pretty thick cut bacon too. I also got to try Ashley Farmhouse Burger which I thought was pretty good and you could see them smashing the burgers as they made them. All and all Gordon's is a pricy food court with mediocre food but when you can't get a table anywhere else it will do that trick. read more

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Had the spice tuna roll last night!! I expected it to be spicy but was like pink mayonnaise the rice was dryer than old wheat toast!! I eat the tuna off the tops and then through the rest in the trash! Yes, I'm eating at Guy Fieri's tonight! I really expected more out of Gordon's place, but I guess you can't be everywhere and someone needs to teach the guys doing the service to not serve. Crap Gordon probably would've thrown him in the trash too. read more

Honestly for a food court in a casino the options are really good and the quality of the food is really good. Pro Tip - go straight for the kiosk and place your order. When it's busy things can take a while. Burger options are great and the pepperoni pizza is really good. The interior is clean and modern. I've been here numerous times and really like it. read more

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When I was at street burger the lady packing the food just left my box open with the burger side ways and I had to close it but then I ask for a bag and she looked at me like I was crazy then threw at me and said pick it up like what did I do! Btw she lady was there between 8:00 PM-9:00 PM on 1/23/26 read more

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Burger was like a dry hockey puck and pizza was so greasy you could ring it out like a wet washcloth, i can't believe the prices they charge for this garbage. I'll give the benefit of the doubt that it was this location, but not to hopeful after that experiance. What's all the hype about Gordon Ramsey? If this is a preview of his restaurants, i won't waste my time or money!! read more

We've walked through here many times, and with plenty of seating and a wide variety of choices, this food hall is always a solid stop. You'll find everything from fish and chips to street pizza, burgers, a breakfast spot, a full bar, and even a convenience-style general store. This time, we stopped in for a quick lunch before heading home and decided to try Gordon Ramsay Fish & Chips. Wifey ordered the lobster and shrimp basket, while I went with the fried shrimp basket. The only side offered is French fries, and you get to pick two sauces. The food came out quickly and was served piping hot. Her basket looked good, though to me the lobster seemed a little over-fried. She disagreed and really enjoyed her seafood, but did mention the fries could have been a little crispier. My shrimp basket was also hot and fresh, with about five to six shrimp -- a fair portion for a quick bite before hitting the road. Overall, it was a very good visit to the food hall this time around. read more

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This is a pretty cool set up with multiple eateries in one location. The food is served fresh to-go or set down style. The service is great and prompt. read more

Gordon Ramsay Food Market - Pepperoni and jalapeño pizza - Food Court Near Me - Cherokee, North Carolina

Lot's of food options here. The food court side has a pizza place, sushi bar, fish and chips, and desserts. Just decide what you want, get in line, place your order and they call your name. If you want to save money eating at the casino then you eat at the food market. Now the food is higher here due to the location, but still cheaper than most of the other places here. The pizza isn't bad. Much better than mall food court food. Overall the food ranges from 3 to 4 stars. There is also a Gordon Ramsey sit down restaurant here with full wait service. The food here is 4 stars. Really good. They also have a full bar, beer and wine. Note, it is expensive. I paid $38 for fish and chips. It was a large piece of fish, but come on. read more

Gordon Ramsay's food market is located in the heart of the hotel, called the Cherokee resort and casino. It is comprised of multiple different food vendors. They have a wide variety of options, including a bakery, pizza and burgers, fish and chips, and other seafood options. While there are multiple different offerings, not all of them are open at the same time, which was incredibly frustrating. I opted for the fish and chips from Gordon Ramsay's fish and chip shop. They have a wonderful option where you can do the surprise box, which includes a piece of cod, a piece of chicken, and two shrimp. You can then choose your chips, however, you would like. Some prefer it to be regular french fries, but they have other options such as their dirty chips, one, which includes chorizo, jalapeños, onions, and spice. I found the food to be very delicious and it satisfied my craving for fish and chips. read more

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I'm honestly surprised by some of the low reviews. We've been here multiple times and the food has always been consistently good. Plus, the food court is always clean and well-kept. It's become one of our regular spots -- definitely recommend giving it a try We ordered backyard burger and chicken and chips. Gordon's Backyard Burger is a reminder that simplicity, when done well, doesn't need a twist -- just great ingredients and execution. I ordered the signature burger with American cheese, bibb lettuce, tomato, red onion, and house-made pickles, and every element felt deliberate. The patty itself was juicy and well-seasoned, grilled just right to let the beef shine without overpowering the other ingredients. Melted American cheese added the perfect salty creaminess, oozing slightly over the edges in that ideal, Instagram-worthy way. Gordon's Backyard Burger is a reminder that simplicity, when done well, doesn't need a twist -- just great ingredients and execution. I ordered the signature burger with American cheese, bibb lettuce, tomato, red onion, and house-made pickles, and every element felt deliberate. The chicken was hot, crispy, and well-seasoned. The outer coating had a satisfying crunch, without being overly greasy, and the inside was moist and flavorful. While not overly spiced, there was a light peppery kick and a hint of garlic that made it far more than bland. Every bite had that golden-brown comfort we crave from fried chicken, and it was clearly made fresh to order. read more

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It's a food court. Maybe upscale... it's above mall food court & maybe better than the hospital cafeteria- but when you don't make reservations at the restaurants, it's what you're left with. Burgers & fries were solid & best bet if that's what you want. Pizzas looked not so great & in speaking with those around us that had them said it's ok - their kids loved it. One in our party had the fried rice w Chicken & broccoli which was nice. Mediocre for what we thought we were walking into. Get reservations more than the day before! Or this could be you... eating at the food court! Little bit of everything for everyone. There is a wait on weekend evenings! Thank goodness for a bar nearby. read more

Gordon Ramsay Food Market - Only if you HAVE TOO! Get reservations at one of the restaurants before you screw up like us! Food court food - Food Court Near Me - Cherokee, North Carolina

The Gordon Ramsay food market is a good spot to grab something to eat when in Cherokee. It's food court style and there are many options. Beware: hours are different for each spot and many are open on different days as well. There is a small Irish pub where you can have a drink/bar food . On this trip, I tried the street burger which was very good and a pastrami/corned beef sandwich. Both were very, very good. Here's what you can get every day: 1) Premade sandwiches, salads, snacks 2) Drinks-fountain, water, etc. The following stations are available at different times: 1) Fish and Chip 2) Street Burger 3) Pizza place 4) Asian/sushi place (was not open Whole we were there so I didn't get to try) 5) Bake and brew They keep the place very clean and overall the service is good. There is a handicapped/family bathroom, but, unfortunately, we had to wait about 20 minutes because an employee was using the handicapped restroom. ****Cherokee really needs to work on their handicapped bathroom options as there any many handicapped seniors who frequent the casino and there are a total of 3 in the entire place. read more

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Located inside the Harrahs Cherokee Resort, this food hall is almost all things Gordon Ramsay. There was definitely a good variety of items for various taste buds but not everything is open all the time. We were torn between the fish and burgers and decided to start with the fish and get the burgers if we were still hungry. The fish was large and tasty while the chips were plentiful and delicious with the chorizo and other toppings. Service was a little slow for the amount of people but the fish and chips were worth it. After we were pretty much full so instead of the burger, we opted to get a little cake from the bakery place. All good except they closed 5 minutes earlier. It was like 2 or 3 pm. I guess no one eats dessert after dinner or for an afternoon snack. The people were still there wrapping up the cakes, that honestly probably by tomorrow would not be as good. They told us we could get a sweet from the grab and go market in the center. However we did not want cupcakes or cookies. There were no slices of the cakes there, which would probably be a better way to use up after they close. So that was a bit disappointing. I guess for next time, dessert first. read more

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We stopped to grab a bite to eat here on NYE night. We choose the sushi spot and the food was really Good. It was pricey, but expected at a casino. read more

We ordered mushroom burgers here as carry out. The fries were absolutely delicious. However, the burgers in both orders had grease running out of them when you took a bite. It was disgusting. It cost a little over $40 for 2 burgers and fries which was way over priced as well. I would not recommend eating here. read more

Prices and quality don't really align. The food is okay, nothing special, what would you expect from a food court style place inside a casino. The prices are very high, of course where else will you eat while gambling? You wait in line to order and the food comes out fairly quickly, plenty of seating to enjoy your food. The napkins weren't stocked anywhere, I had to go around everywhere until I found some though. read more

Inside the casino on the 2nd floor is the GR Street Pizza restaurant. Fair options for dining, priced as expected.

Was staying at Harrah's Cherokee for a few days and was excited to see they had a Gordon Ramsey Food Market, but then hesitated for a bit because of the low reviews. However, I'm glad that we decided to give it a chance, especially since my 11 year old nephew really wanted to eat there. We ate specifically from only 2 locations - GR Fish & Chips and Street Burger. And, everything we had was delicious and our group all agreed that we would come back for the food we ate. Half us got food from GR Fish & Chips and the other half from Street Burger. We ordered the following: - Regular Fish and Chips - Very crispy and good - Lobster and Chips - My friend really liked it, especially the lobsters - Farmhouse Burger (English cheddar, smoked bacon, fried egg) - My 11 year old nephew said that this was one of the best burgers he had and he is usually not a fan of burgers. - Mushroom Burger - Gruyere cheese, boursin mushrooms, arugula, porcini aioli - As a mushroom lover, this was awesome because it was so full of mushroom flavor. - All of our favorite was the truffle fries with the truffle aioli. Wow! Best truffle fries and that truffle aioli was "chef's kiss!" So, we were surprised by the very low rating on Yelp since everything we had was so good! The only thing we were not a fan of was the ketchup because it tasted more like a cocktail sauce since it seems like they made it from fresh ingredients. We preferred the truffle aioli on everything. Also, maybe because we there on a Monday late afternoon, the wait for the food wasn't too bad as other reviews mentioned. I would say less than 15 minutes? Lastly, about the prices, yes, it was steep, but casino food is always expensive, so we ate here with the expectation of this being a splurge. Unfortunately, it's always hard to find "affordable" food in the casino. If we are ever in the area again, we will definitely be back for the burgers and especially for the truffle fries and the accompanying truffle aioli. Also, I'm hoping that the other Gordon Ramsey stations will be open, too. If you made it this far into my review, I think you should give this place a try. :) read more

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I was really looking forward to visiting the Gordon Ransey food market and overall, I was disappointed. The food market was supposed to open spring of 2022. At first, they opened with just Street pizza and G.R. Burger--I figured once summer arrived, they would hire on more staff and open the other venues. However, they are currently only operating Pizza, Burger, Grab-n-go, breakfast kiosk, and a bar. The kitchen where you can try G.R. classics like Beef Wellington are still not open. Additionally, G.R. fish and chips which I was most excited about still isn't open either. I decided to try the pepperoni pizza since it had a variety of pepperonis on it. Based on previous reviews I did not have high expectations for this pizza. I'm happy to say however, the pizza was better than expected. The highlight of the pizza was the dough which was light, airy, and crisp. The two textured pepperoni wasn't bad either and added a nice dimension. The rest of the pizza was bland and greasy. Very greasy be prepared with plenty of napkins. A little bit of garlic and seasonings would have brought this pie a long way. I'm disappointed in almost four months since opening this food market still has failed to open it's highlight booths. The pizza was better than expected and good for a food court in a casino. Being that it's in a Casino I can't complain about the price. If you go for the convivence without too high of expectations you won't be disappointed. read more

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For those of you who read my reviews, you know I'm generous, but this is a generous rating. The only reason I'm rating this high is because it's super clean and the service is outstanding. As far as the food... This is my first experience with Gordon Ramsey'a food in person. I'm assuming this isn't the norm. The burger was good but not great and the fries were standard. If you want a good burger and you're at Harrah's Cherokee, go to Guy Fieri's or Wicked Weed. But that's not the real reason for the low rating. Most people at the poker table told me the pizza wasn't good. One of them even told me I would be better off going to Pizza Hut. I couldn't believe this to be true and had to see for myself. In short, they were right. This pizza is borderline tasteless and the crust is closer to cardboard than quality. I'm sorry, but it really isn't good. I love pizza and ordered a personal pie but I couldn't even finish it. If I were rating the pizza itself, it would be a 2.1 of 5. I think some of the other stations might be better when they open. At this time, I don't recommend Gordon Ramsay's Food Market. read more

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Nice food court at Harrahs casino. While not up to his actual restaurant quality, the street pizza was amazing. Wasn't expecting much but it was made with care. It is a bit expensive but that's to be expected. Service was very good. Also ordered an iced coffee from the bakery and it was okay at best read more

Today makes the 3rd time in a row that we waited upwards of 20 minutes or more for our food to be prepared. It's been the same unorganized crew all three times. Missing items that we paid extra for wrong kind of fries that we also paid extra yea for. The cook only cooks one type of food at a time, so why have multiple fryers if you only can cook one thing at a time!! This will be my last time spending that kind of money for horrible customer service. I complained and the cashier told me that I had only been waiting 10 minutes and that wasn't anything to complain about, I told her I had been there at least 20 minutes and I was the only person in line when I ordered so they weren't busy at all. One couple waited 45 minutes for fried lobster that they had to have recooked again cause they ordered without salt and when they got it it was loaded with salt, so they waited longer than I did. read more

Gordon Ramsay Food Market - Sad won't waste my money here again!! - Food Court Near Me - Cherokee, North Carolina

Gordon Ramsay a great Michelin star awarded chef. His food courts however are a mangled mess of horrible sub par food and service. I imagine he gets some nice royalties from using his name, because he sure wouldn't tolerate these idiots running his real restaurants. This is considered drunk or last chance food. read more

Very good portion size for the price. Nice flavor. Huge pepperonis. I wished I would've added a sauce to dip it in though. read more

Gordon Ramsay Food Market - Pepperoni, Sausage, and Mushroom Pizza - Food Court Near Me - Cherokee, North Carolina

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Gordon Ramsay's food market at Harrah's in Cherokee, North Carolina offers great "street burgers" with a variety of sauces and condiments. Thoroughly delicious and served up by a friendly staff. Sweet potato fries, truffle fries, and regular fries are available. The price for our party of four came to around $68. read more

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SHAME ON YOU, GORDON RAMSEY!!! I have seen your shows on television and you put out this vibe that you care about the quality of food. After trying the farmhouse burger at your Street Burgers restaurant in Cherokee, I have realized that is nothing but a show. The burger was dry and chewy. Clearly a frozen processed turd. The egg, however, was cooked to perfection. If I was you, I would have taken one bite, spit it out, then proceed to throw it against the nearest window. I would demand to know what the fuck I just put in my mouth. Yelling at the staff to leave that thing sliding down the window as a reminder until they can get it right. I don't even care that it was overpriced. Thank you for giving me a realistic first impression of how you "care" about food. Shame on you! 5 guys out burgers and out fries you on every level. Shit! When it comes to fresh ingredients, I would say Wendy's out burgers you. Sad. I was really excited to have a great burger experience. I have recovered from this memorable experience and am trying to move on. Luckily, I have found some really great food in the Morganton, NC area to help me heal. P.S. We had a couple pieces of cake from your bakery to celebrate my birthday. Those made us very happy. Apparently, you are quite a talented baker. Congratulations and thank you. Regards, Self proclaimed amateur food critic. read more

worst food ever. Asked for done and it was soggy. Disgusting. We even talked to the person cooking it and they were of no help. Horrible experience would never go back. read more

Gordon Ramsay Food Market - Food Court Near Me - Cherokee, North Carolina

Jordon the manager needs to be fired along with the manager at the Fish and chips restaurant. Had me stand in line and as the last person in line, their slow line, they then come tell me they won't serve me when the food was already prepared. Had planned on eat and gamble but it the experience was so bad I am leaving and don't plan to return. Gordon Ramsey can't manage this restaurant from London and it shows. read more

LOTS OF OPTIONS! You can get any food you want here! Ranging from pizza, burgers, fish and chips, pizza, and more. We wanted fish and chips which opened at 3pm today. We came at 3:05 and there was a line with no employees helping us till about 3:10. The menu is the same as the Gordon Ramsay fish and chips in Las Vegas, which I have been to. They were out of a lot of ingredients including two different types of dirty fries, ranch, and sour cream. All in all, I'd come back to this food court when in the casino. But it's overpriced and lacking a bit. read more

Paid $32 and waited an hour for two cold sub-par burgers that were barely edible. NEVER. AGAIN. read more

Gordon Ramsay Food Market - Beet Burger - Food Court Near Me - Cherokee, North Carolina

If you love waiting 45 minutes for an extra well done burger, then is this the place for you. My favorite part was having to stand the entire time waiting for my food because there is no way of knowing when it will be done. read more

This is one of the Gordon Ramsey 'food court' venues in the Casino, and basically all fried food with French fries. We opted for the Lobster and Shrimp with Truffle oil parmesan dirty fries. The lobster tail was split in half, and included three large shrimp. The shrimp were large, perfectly cooked, and very crispy with tempura batter. One of the lobster pieces were cooked nicely, while the other piece was on the mushy side, borderline send it back. In retrospect, we should have, since I usually say there's no room to complain when you don't allow the establishment to make it right, but my partner was the one who ate it, and he didn't say anything until we were done with our meal. read more

Gordon Ramsay Food Market - Food Court Near Me - Cherokee, North Carolina

The first year I tried a Gordon Ramsey burger it was pure perfection. Unfortunately the quality and taste has drastically changed for me over the past two years. Fries lately have been over cooked and dry as well. If you're going to order fries I would recommend the truffle over plain. A for convience but just not a must stop for me anymore. :( read more