First, I'll cut to the chase.
You DO NOT want to hire them.
Let me explain why.
We hired them to install a new hydronic Bradford White water heater in our condo. Since this water heater is for a hydronic system, we asked the owner, Frans Cartwright, in advance if he knew how to do this kind of installation. He said absolutely, we do these all the time. Its no problem.
So believing that, we had him proceed.
Big Mistake
The first guy he sent out not only was kind of grumpy, but he also had some lines to the heating system reversed, something I noticed after he left. So we called Frans, and he sent out another guy to fix it.
The second guy hooked the lines correctly to the water heater, but in the process created some weird and flimsy external plumbing in the outflow line, which goes to the heat exchanger. Not knowing any better, and assuming the second guy knew what he was doing, we didn't say anything, thinking it was now all OK.
Immediately after that, the heat in the house stopped working. We contacted Frans, who said 'well, you need to call a heating company to fix that. We don't do heating, and we installed the new water heater correctly'.
Famous last words.
The heating system in the house runs off the hot water heater, which provides hot water to a heat exchanger to heat the house.
So we called a heating guy, and he couldn't figure out what was wrong. And we went without heat for quite a while.
But then we found another HVAC guy, who said he had experience with hydronic systems like this, and said he also did water heaters. That plumbing experience the second guy had turned out to be the key.
So the new HVAC guy came out, and determined that the pump motor for the heating system had burned out. He ordered a new pump, then came back and installed it.
But the new pump wasn't able to get any water from the hot water heater in to heat the house. The HVAC guy was initially puzzled. Everything appeared to be OK, so why?? Why is no water coming in? The pump was working properly, but with no hot water, no heat.
Then he went out to look at the water heater. He started checking Frans's weird and flimsy plumbing in the outflow pipe, which should provide hot water to the heat exchanger. He started feeling around the pipe, then looked at it a little harder and said 'wait, what's this??'. He motioned me to come over, saying "come over here, you've got to see this."
He said, "feel this part of the pipe". It was hot. He said "now feel the same pipe on the other side of this valve that's in the line". The other side wasn't even warm, but since it was the same pipe, with just the valve in between, it should have been.
I said "what's that valve that's in the line?" He said "that's a backflow valve".
And then he said:
AND IT IS INSTALLED BACKWARDS!!!
Which means because of that, it was always shut off, and no hot water WAS EVER going to get into the house to heat it!
He said that explained everything, including why the pump motor burned out. He said the pump motor burned out trying and trying and trying to pump water, which could never get there because the backflow valve, which Better Water Heaters installed, WAS INSTALLED BACKWARDS, completely shutting off any water flow.
I said "are you sure it's backwards?" He said "absolutely, I put these things in myself. That's why one side of the pipe is hot, and the pipe on other side isn't! But it's completely unnecessary here. It should never even have been put in. Obviously, the guy who did this (that's Better Water Heaters!), didn't know what he was doing."
So he took out all the weird plumbing and the backflow valve that Better Water Heaters had installed BACKWARDS, and neatly re-plumbed everything.
That's all he needed to do.
This time, when the heating system was turned on,.....IT WORKED PERFECTLY!! Lots of hot air in the house!
The bad news? That'll be $1200 please. :(
So you don't want to hire these guys. They're incompetent. They don't even know which way to install a valve. And fixing their mistakes is going to cost you a lot of money. In this case, $1200.
So no Frans, you DIDN'T do it correctly. And we're going to tell all our neighbors.
So unless you want to go through the misery we went through, DO NOT HIRE THEM. read more