A bit disappointed with this location. No bar! No restaurant! No one told us about these small details. If we would have known we would have gone with the original plan... The Ritz. read more

A friend and I were in Boston's Mandarin Oriental Lounge for afternoon tea today, 2:30 PM. We were quite satisfied with our experience there. I've uploaded a picture to this page for the tea tray that was served. Tony S.'s 5.Jan.2009 review mentioned that T4S's Bristol Lounge ran circles around Mandarin's afternoon tea offerings, but I strongly disagree. In the past I've been served low-grade *bagged* tea at the Bristol. Minor requests (for a pad of butter, for example) were completely ignored there. e.g. unacceptable faux pas. We ordered the "Original" ($27 each) where we enjoyed a full assortment of high tea treats. Scones, tartlettes, caviar, frois gras, quiche, cheesecake - to name a few, all quite delicious and delectable. The tea selection was very agreeable. While not huge (~10 teas to choose from), they were brewed smoothly and of a high quality. I had a black/green blend that was excellent. The high point, however, came with the chocolates they served. Both had a wonderfully crunchy outer shell, the larger of the two had a "crust" of hazelnut. I remarked to my friend that I've only eaten chocolate of such high caliber when I've been in France. The setting, while it's not overlooking the Thames or anything grand like that, was quiet and cultured. The interior isn't hackneyed. Although, my friend was sitting with her knees at the end of the [coffee] table, so it could have been more comfortable for her. Service was excellent. The server honored our requests, was very gracious and unobtrusive; she gave just the right balance of attentiveness and privacy. I will definitely return. All other afternoon tea experiences in Boston have been dismal in comparison. Pros: Chocolate, goodies, tea, atmosphere, low noise level Cons: No live music, no scenic outdoor views, sometimes uncomfortable seating Why did I give this four stars instead of five? I've had a better high tea experience at The Savoy in London where they continually bring you more food and tea for one price. The quality of their tea and food was slightly higher, more elaborate. read more

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1 round of 3 drinks - $37 Ouch! 1 round of 4 drinks = $45 F***K!! Ah well. This ain't no holes-in-thewall pub. It's pretty classy lounge where I shouldn't be at or belong to. But I like its chillness and their sangria is top-f-in'-notch. I was chugging it like Ocean Spray grape juice. It's definitely 30+ place. If you are 20- and bitch about this place because creepy 40+ guys hitting on you? Move on, this place ain't for you unless you are desperate for attention. read more

I've tried out the room, the resturant and the spa at Mandarin Oriental Boston. They just transport you to another world. The minute i got off my red eye flight, we drove to our hotel and luckily, after we checked in, they had a fresh pot of coffee for us. I also got to sample their New England Breakfast platter at their only all-day restaurant (the rest are opened at night). Delish! I also got to try out a 2 hour treatment where they massage your feet, then you pick out an oil that complements your body, they go through a full body assessment and even tell you how to keep a balanced diet at the end of your session. This place is definitely the place to get pampered. Everyone's there to serve your needs whether it's to valet your car, show you around, turn down your bed 2-3 times a day, etc. I highly recommend it! read more

Oh you sexy you... Mandarin... you're simply fabulous! The new friend that I met was well loved by his company thus they put him here for a week ... uber jelly! Anyway... the last time I was at a Mandarin was in SF with the sis... and their "M" bar is nothing short of excellence! I've known that they can make drinks and it's no wonder that they didn't disappoint in Boston! We ended up hanging out here the rest of the week AFTER the conference sessions... was able to try out their cocktails... I became a fan of their "Mobos Mule" since it had "Hanger One Mandarin" (reppin' Alameda CA!!!) of course I had to share that with the group! Another close favorite was the "Monsieur" champagne cocktail... something about lychee that makes everything oh so delicious! Overall... well staffed... friendly... exudes class and you can't go wrong (I mean you pay for it duh!) read more

Booked premier deluxe room at a cost of over $1000 a night expecting a high quality experience. Instead it was very underwhelming. 1) No restaurant service (under construction) 2) cramped room 3) 1.5 hour wait for room service (and even then order was not complete) 4) attempts to reach front desk and room service by phone have long wait times 5) needed a few bathroom toiletries and front desk didn't Have available. Either of the Four Seasons in Boston is a much better experience for similar price. read more

Good wine, bad service. The bartender took 15 minutes to greet us with an empty bar, and I'll tell you what, he didn't seem happy to see us. Once he realized I was not some 30 something floozie he could just take advantage of, he flat out ignored me. After being overlooked and condescended, I kept my order short but sweet....but let me tell you I'll take my business where it's welcome from here on out. read more

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I had an abysmal stay here last Friday. One of the lamps next to my bed was completely broken; the light bulb was actually hanging out of the socket with its wires exposed. I thought it was ghetto but I was only there for 1 night for work so I tried to brush it off. Later on I was horrified to see the sink water come out rust colored and when I took a shower, noticed the shower gel/shampoos were half full. Does nobody stay at this place anymore?? Clearly not! To make matters worse, I had to call engineering up to my room at 11:45pm to dismantle the light panels to turn off the lights. The room's lights were all smart-lights (aka do not have physical switches) and as my luck would have it none of the panels were working. I couldn't turn the lights on in the morning for that reason either but at that point I wanted to get the heck out of there. The next morning the woman at the front desk offered me breakfast or lunch or a "green juice" to compensate for my experience (I was going to yoga so declined these offers). I was appalled that she thought that these were appropriate offerings though. At the very least the manager Brett gave me his card to email him if I thought of anything that could help make up for the horrible experience; however, I have not heard from him since emailing him Saturday. What an absolute nightmare. read more

If you could afford to live here, you'd be home now. And, if I could afford to live here, I'd never leave. Oh, yes. Yes. Unfortch, for me, I had to pee. Well, fortch, for me, I found a place to pee. The Mandarian Oriental was the nicest place I've ever seen and been allowed into. The nice lady that was working at the desk even said "Hello" to me as I walked into the Mandarin Oriental. Here's a tip: Walk in like you own the place. Enjoy walking on their luxurious carpet. Walk around a little more. Then, walk to the loo. Don't skip. Take. your. time. I accidentally dropped my newly washed jacket on the bathroom floor. I left there. Normally, I'd scream and have to set it on fire --- I mean-- it touched the BATHROOM FLOOR!!! Similar to Jerry Seinfeld and his shoelaces, if they touch the bathroom floor, you need to throw em out. Back to the pee. Ok, their bathroom looks like the Jetson's had a three way with Dr. Who, and their spawn was this delighful bathroom. The bathroom is quite futuristic, but very efficient, and you really don't have to DO anything. The frosted glass door, easily closed BY ITSELF (!) behind me. I see the toilet, the brand was TOTO, I have heard that TOTO is number one in the number two business (in this case, I only had to go number one). They even have the softest TP that you will ever feel. They play soft music while you tinkle, it's nice. I probably could fall asleep in this stall. It was that spacious. The lighting is soft, forgiving, and you'll enjoy it. The sink was a sink -- nothing crazy, but nice warm water that flowed like a babbling brook. The soap was nothing short of beautiful. Liquid hand soap that smelled like happiness. It did not even dry your hands, like most liquid soaps. They have tissues, they have soft cloths for you hands. They have big mirrors that make you look amazingly gorgeous, even if you are not. Yeah, I need to yelp this. You're welcome. read more

I was at an event at the Hotel last night and the venue and food were lovely. However, the stand out was the ride home in the complimentary car - the driver Lou is a treasure. Such a wonderful, lovely man who has driven top celebrities in the city. I hope he gets the recognition he deserves! #louisawesome read more

The hotel over bills! The front desk doses not answer phones. There is no ability to contact the General Manager. Condescending service when questioning charges on my bill. Very disappointing stay. Do not waste your money! Go to Four Seasons, Boston!!! read more

I've stayed here 3 times in the past, and you really can't go wrong with any Mandarin Oriental. This hotel location has the most comfortable beds ever in their rooms. Beautifully appointed, with exquisite bathrooms that were spacious. The service was excellent without that over stuffy attitude. I've never had a problem here or at any other Mandarin, and I will continue to be a true fan of their brand. I only wish they opened another location in California, since they closed their San Francisco location. read more

Hotel is great! Rooms are superb and comfortable, housekeeping is amazing. But they have got to change their service at the restaurant which kills the experience read more

Holy Moly!! What an exquisite and tasteful use of space! This hotel is hands down the most beautiful put together work of art for those whose eyes feast on originality and uniqueness in the amazing city of Boston. Go Patriots/Red Sox! Even breathing in the air as you walk into this hotel is crisp and welcoming. Located right next to the Prudential building on Boylston, the Mandarin Oriental stands out amongst any other on the block. The staff were very professional and helpful with anything and everything. I made my way through the hotel a few times to and from the Mizu Salon where I got my hair done- so privileged to get to see this outstanding structure... I can't wait to visit Boston again and stay here!! read more

I'm reviewing the Mandarin solely on their function hall. My company had their annual holiday party here, about 300 people. This hotel is very high class and elegant. They greeted us with glasses of wine and champagne, our choice. Creative and sometime delicious appetizers were passed around. They had us in a large room prior to going into the dining area, this room had a bar at both ends. There was never a problem grabbing a drink. In the dining hall, everything thing was set up perfectly. There was room for a band my company hired as well. For food I had scallops topped with cavier as an appetizer. for the entree I ordered the Black Cod with Miso with Sweet Potatoes. Both were excellent however I don't know if that is a good combo. On the wait out they had assempled a dessert table that had such variety it would have made Willy Wonka blush. read more

I have to agree with devlin this hotel is total rip-off the claim to protect your identity with purchase with the name , not in our case someone used a gift card and they never checked the name and I,d you can never get someone to answer your complaint either, leave name and number good luck. read more

Mandarin Oriental is known for its spas worldwide so I was very excited to try out the Spa in the newly-opened Boston property. This is definitely a 6-star spa!!! The interiors are what you would expect in an upscale spa, but in keeping with its Asian heritage, the Mandarin's is zen-like. What I loved about it was the very Asian service -- not pushy, not over-the-top but quietly attentive. I had the Commonwealth Comforter, which was an hour and 50 minutes. My therapist was a Thai lady named Ganitha -- she had a wonderful touch with her hands. The treatment itself was exquisite -- it really addressed my skin dryness that I tend to get when the weather gets cold. Ganitha applied an exfoliator, very gently massaging away the dead skin. Then you shower it off (there's a private shower in your therapy room, with your choice of a regular showerhead or the huge rainshower). Oh, and the massage table is heated so while you are lying on it, you are completely cocooned in this relaxing warmth, sort of like being in a womb. The treatment includes a slathering of body oils and butters which I was told are all locally made in the Cape Cod area. Ganitha also gave me a very gentle facial massage and a lovely head massage. Oh, it was just exquisite!!! If it were not embarrassing, I would have purred.... Price-wise, it is definitely not your neighborhood "spa". My treatment was $260, but for the level of luxury you get, this seems a fair price. Oh, you can also use the steam room and huge jacuzzi. read more

I went there for drinks. A somewhat quiet cozy and elegant place where you can sit, chat and have your drinks. I like this place alot better than W hotel since you don't have to wait in line forever to get in. Order the Strawberry shortcake it was sooo good!!! read more

I got married before my sister so I was her unofficial wedding planner. From day one, the wedding coordinator was on top of things, and made sure everything was perfect. When I went with my sister for a meeting with the chef, tasting the food ahead of time, it was all so wonderful. My sister is quite the foodie and they had the perfect food to meet my sisters demands for seafood, beef and vegetarian. When it came to the big day, the entire hotel was just amazing. the bridal suite / changing room for us was exceptionally tidy, as expected. The linen upgrades were just gorgeous. There was a list that hotel's planner had given to my sister and I to help plan the day of the wedding. Because my sister and our family are not so religious, she had the ceremony at the hotel and it was so much easier. We didn't feel like we made any sacrifices with that decision. All in all, the Mandarin Oriental is a place I recommend to anyone for their once-in-a-lifetime event. They don't cut corners, and have an honest, hard-working staff that on multiple occasions went the extra mile to make sure things were top notch. read more

Boston is a quaint village that served as an important center of anti-government demonstration some 200+ years ago, but has really struggled to differentiate itself since then, as more serious cities like New York, Los Angeles and Seaside Heights have risen global prominence. However, there are times when business forces one to travel north to that haunted wasteland of American history and that's the position I found myself in recently. Despite my misgivings about the territory, I found the Mandarin Oriental to be excellent in nearly every aspect. The rooms are spacious and well-kept, the staff pleasant and professional, the complimentary tangerine tea they send up to your room at check-in fruity and delicious and significantly close to ideal tea temperature. It's surprising that such luxury can be found in a town where fashion is dominated by Red Sox jackets and hats, but there you have it. read more

The hotel itself, service included, is wonderful indeed. However, the Dynasty Suite leaves a lot to be desired. If you check the site, you will discover that even the suites in NYC are VASTLY more beautifully decorated than the one in Boston. And compared to the ones in Hong Kong, Bangkok and Singapore, forget it! Those rooms are total paradise, as in dream-come-true--jawdropping. I can only surmise that the powers that be figured Boston to be ultra-conservative, and planned the decor accordingly. No lack of luxury, just drab, drab, drab. Corporate. Depressing. Boring. read more

From the time I checked in on to my checkout my stay here was great. The staff were Very professional and friendly. They greeted me by name and showed me to my room. The room was comfortable and equipped with all the standard items for the Mandarin, iPhone player which also charges, iron for last minute touch ups and an in room safe. I am a bit of a stickler for bathroom toiletries and I appreciate the fact that they have not only shampoo but conditioner as well. I do miss the Hermes bath toiletries they used to have but things change.... During my stay I became a little sick and the staff were so nice, especially the room service staff. The gym was well equipped and clean. I also had a massage in the spa which is very good sized for an urban spa. With the Mandarin you get tasteful decor, well trained staff and a great location. Room Tip: I think all rooms are good but I would prefer to be on a higher floor where it is a bit quieter. read more

This hotel is truly one of the finest I have stayed in. The service from the employees is incredibly helpful, the rooms are spacious especially the bathroom!!! it was almost as big as the room. The amenities are great and there is even a business center in the room with supplies such as paper clips, a stapler, ruler and highlighter! They think of everything. One of the best things about this hotel is the two beautiful golden retrievers that greet you when you arrive. The manager also guides runners on early morning runs along the Charles River. It is a wonderful time and a great chance to meet some new and interesting people. As for those guests who are concerned about sustainability, the refreshing flavored water in the lobby is served in paper not plastic cups. Worth every penny to stay at this luxurious and well located hotel. read more

Mandarin Oriental Boston finally opened October 6, 2008. It is quite spectacular with it's beautiful design. The richness and elegance bring a new standard to the Boston Luxury Hotel scene. It is modern classic which the Ritz Carlton Boston Common tried to do but failed in comparison. All Mandarins Hotels have great design and professional service. The addition of Mandarin Oriental Boston raises the bar up and will compete directly with Four Seasons Boston. The grand lobby and expensive materials though out the hotel are all very well done inclusive of the lighting and small details. On my three visits to the hotel and seeing the various rooms and suites which are all beautifully appointed. They have a complete spa and health club which all are well designed and equipped. The staff are all friendly and still need training but that is a given for a new hotel opened just days ago. Definitely a great place for special occasions and great location as it is attached to Prudential Shopping, Copley Place Shopping, close to Newbury Street Shopping, many restaurants and it's own M Bar & Lounge at the lobby area. You really can't go wrong staying here accept bring your American Express Black Card. read more

So this is my first time to Boston And my first stay At a Mandarin O. I must say this has been such a pleasant exp.. The staff here is super friendly and accommodating. As far as the room goes, everything was laid out perfectly! Fresh cut apples and bottled water. Nice soothing music. Huge soaking tubs (so relaxing ) Also the hotel is very close to some nice high end restaurants.. Great stay! Will definitely come again that's for sure! read more

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review for their TEA SERVICE I could sum it up in one word: WOW Eight of us showed up for tea on a Sunday and had a fabulous afternoon. The teas were fantastic, the food was unbelievable and the service outstanding. The setting was perfect creating a warm atmosphere that invited relaxation and conversation. We all enjoyed sharing the many treats, savory and desserts, that were brought out. Minimum group for tea is 6, $35/person. Make any request you need for the food and they will accomodate you. It was great to be able to personalized our treats so everyone could enjoy them. We really had a great time, I couldn't recommend it more. read more

A relatively new hotel considering how old and established other hotels are. The Bay Back area in Boston is one of the oldest enclaves in the country. This is where ladies used to walk around with parasols a few centuries ago. It is an amazingly beautiful place that introduces you to New England like no other city. The hotel is luxurious and comfortable, but they don't quite have the level of personal, obsessive service that the price and location demands. The hotel industry is something my husband follows professionally. We know that most of the customers at hotels like Mandarin are repeat customers. Hotels essentially have to let themselves be stomped on to provide that feeling of lavish groveling. They have to turn their heads away when they see something perverse and weird. Trust me, I have heard enough hotel stories from friends to make anyone's teeth fall out. But a real hotel controls the the gossip and does not stick their head out. I hope Mandarin reaches that level. It is really a jazzy, modern hotel, the kind that is cropping up in the San Francisco area. I feel out of place and old when lamps are turned on when you clap and the shower is automatically turned on when you open the shower door. It makes you feel 5 years old to feel up the walls for a light switch to discover that it's all automatic. read more

I was looking forward to their arrival....MOB has a small, stark, & cold lobby, their outsourced valet parking service charged me for 1.5 hours even though I was only there for exactly 50 minutes...They apparently calculate it manually and made a mistake...? This is not The Four Seasons, and lacks the views, the warmth, and easy pull in parking. Instead, here you have an array of confusing bars & restaurants with further confusing enterances. At first glance, It's unimpressive, maybe the rooms and Spa are worth the trip I don't know... 1/11 I've added two more stars to my first review after more experiences which were very positive, I attended a function there and was very impressed with their catering and presentation. read more

I visited the Mandarin Spa for the Oriental Foot Massage. This is a 5 star hotel and you know that immediately upon entering. I asked the front desk person to point me towards the spa and he left the desk to walk me over to the spa. Everyone you walk past greets you. I recommend arriving early or staying after to enjoy the crystal steam room, the tropical storm shower and the jacuzzi pool. Thank you YELP for the e-mail for 1/2 price spa services which enabled me to try this $140 treatment for $70, much more realistic for this service. I tried one other spa during this promotion and although the massage was great at the other salon it did not compare due to the ambiance of the Mandarin. read more

5 star all the way. beds, plillows, bathrooms, products and service. Housekeeping had taken the apples I bought from the farmers market (and replaced them with mandarin oranges - not sure why), I called to find out why that had happened I was a bit upset, I always get my own fresh fruit when I travel. They apologized profusely, called restaurant services and the manager himself brought me up apples just 20 minutes later. The hotel sent someone out to get me exactly what was taken. Now that's service above and beyond. Just top notch, perfect location, lovely employees, will return to the hotel in a heartbeat. read more

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I did not stay at the hotel overnight, I merely attended an event here, but arguably one of the more "important" events of my life. Suffolk Law hosted "Barrister's Ball" here for graduating students. The Ball was held at the Mandarin's Oriental Ballroom. The Ballroom was gorgeous: huge chandeliers bathed the room in a warm glow. The hotel provided a stage for a live band, and 6 full service bars provided refreshments to guests. Patient and attentive waiters roamed the room with crab cakes, steak tartare, risotto and wild mushroom balls, and a few other hors d'oeuvres that have slipped my mind. I usually hate attending events at fancy hotels, because often the staff treats visitors poorly, NOT THE CASE HERE. Everyone from the doormen, to the front desk clerk, to the waiters and bartenders were lovely. I don't think 10 minutes went by without someone from the staff congratulating me. I developed a particular affection for the front desk clerk, who every time I walked by said "welcome back" or "have fun." I realize that a mere welcome doesn't sound like much, but when you just have gone through the toughest three years of your life, and your currently experiencing a roller coaster of emotions, a friendly face can really make your night. The entire staff made me feel special. I want to extend a thank you to the entire Mandarin staff for helping create a memorable night. read more

I was here for a business function but did not stay over the 2 nights at Boston. A nice hotel with friendly stuff. The catering food from the hotel for breakfast, reception, and lunch were excellent. The conference room setup was comfortable. The only issue I have was the price that is way beyond both my company and personal budget. :-( read more

I attended an absolutely posh Christmas party that was held in the gorgeous ballroom. The service was unbeatable. As usual the staff was hand over foot high class. This venue is one of my favorites in that the service, food and decor is always beyond expectations. I love the fabulous cocktails. They will get you in the spirit to party no doubt. The attentiveness you receive is exceptional. They are quick to serve your every need. Of course, you pay dearly for this luxury, but sometimes it is just with it to get a little extra comfort and class. It is in an endearing part of Boston that I love to leave the hotel and walk. Quintessential Boston experience. If you have the extra cash, get a room here after a big event and make it a mini holiday. It is truly an experience to treasure. read more

The entire experience was 7 stars compared to only being allowed to enter 5 here and I am not just providing SHILL, it truly was amazing. From the moment you pull up to the moment you leave, CUSTOMER SERVICE did not miss a beat. Each and every person was friendly and courteous and helpful. I am only going to review the room and the service. Everything else is still top notch including the spa. The room was enormous. Much larger than my tiny 1 bedroom here in NYC. There was a hallway for the entrance to the room, I mean what hotel room has a foyer. Granted, we got upgraded since the girlfriend is in the hotel biz, but WAY TO GO HONEY! As you round the corner in the hallway there is a bathroom off to the left with a rain shower, soaking tub, sink and toilet that is enclosed behind the mirror above the sink. The product in the bathroom was perfect and nothing was left out, including a shaving and toothbrush kit. I guess at this level of luxury there is really no need to have to ask for those items if you forget. The main room was approximately the size of a tennis court. Giant flat screen tv on top of a modern dresser and a king size bed with Frette linens (Super Luxurious and Comfy). There was a sitting area and a desk as well in the bedroom area. Honorable mention to the spa and the gym at the Mandarin as well. The steam room was complete with crystals and led display as well. No treatments were purchased, but the use of the spa was particularly nice. The shower with 4 different experiences was pretty cool (Artic Mist, Body Spray, Tropical downpour and one other) and the big jacuzzi proved to be very relaxing. Well, if you ever get the chance I highly recommend staying here as the level of service is unparalleled to any other hotel/resort I have been exposed to in my travels. ROCK ON M.O.B.! read more

Lounge/Bar at the Mandarin Apparently hotel bars are in (bond, liberty, minibar) so this is another option for those on the hunt for a place to go hob nob with boston socialites. I found this place to be nice, but a bit less trendy/cool than the places listed above. The vibe is too corporate for my taste, but is probably a great spot to grab drinks right after work - I'd give it 4 stars if that was when I went, but alas, I was there on a Saturday. The crowd was a bit older and the prices a bit higher, but overall a similar experience to other hotel bars/lounges. I sat at the bar with a group of about 15 and we hung out for a couple hours and had drinks. The bartenders were both really nice and kind of sexy I must say, they definitely flirted my girlfriend and I into staying for a drink longer than we probably would have if they weren't there. The bathroom is like 2 miles away in the lobby which was kind of funny and the bouncer forgot my face or something and gave me a hard time getting back in (a line had formed while I was in the loo.) Once that little mishap cleared up, it was back to the bar and a good time with my friends. No big deal, but not my favorite spot in Back Bay. There is a lot to compete with in this area, and they just don't rise above the rest. oh yeah, and i think they make their staff where vests - like aladdin carpet vests - thats just mean ;) read more

What a joke this place is for a 5 star spa!! Got VM 5 out of 6 times! Finally booked an appointment and they sent an email to confirm it with the wrong time and treatment price!! Have a gift cert for here, was so looking forward to going but they are just making it impossible for me!! Unfortunately I had to cancel due to weather conditions, had to leave a vm because of course no one answered. You are suppose to relax people not stress them out! I'm so annoyed by the whole process! read more

Rarely do I write a review while I'm still at the place. But I am so impressed with the Mandarin. Checkin was a delight, the bar served an Amazing white cosmopolitan. The rooms are stunning. A quiet mix of modern and cozy. Add all this to a perfect location and you need not stay anywhere else if you are visiting Boston. read more

Astronomically expensive, but an utterly fabulous, luxurious hotel experience. Clean, quiet, excellent service, Frette linens on the bed, amazing shower/bath. The hotel spa is like no other I've been to, and I'm glad there isn't a location near my home or I'd be tempted to go too often for massage / facial. The whole place smells good, too. read more

I would go back. Its more of a 3 and 1/2 star but my service provider was very good. So I rounded up. I'll tell the details later this was this year by the way. read more