After work my husband picked me up and said we were going to have an early dinner. I was really excited because I was pretty hungry from work, OB is notorious for difficult parking but we were so lucky and found parking right in front of the restaurant. The cashier was super friendly and she let us know of their latest promos, we opted for the promo which included 4 sliders and large fries. For our sliders, I chose the Cajun softshell crab and the munchies, while Bryan opted for the Rosiemac and the classic. Can I just say that even though these are sliders they're extremely filling, the softshell crab was pretty large and super flavorful and had the best crunch. I ended up eating the other slider at home the next day and cold and it was sooo good. I am a blue cheese slut so that was absolutely delicious. Bryan liked his sliders too but said that he'd do two of the Rosiemacs instead of having the classic. Those fries were really good too, perfectly done but a little too seasoned? They have indoor and outdoor seating and since we had our Pom Kodiak we sat outside. Would definitely come back but probably just due the Pick 2 meal deal. read more

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These sliders are delicious! The spot here in a ocean beach is small. I'd recommend seating in the front to avoid the fish style seating in the back - gets hot. The Lil Sal is my favorite and highly recommended. Really can't go wrong with any of their sliders. The spicy elote fries are bomb! read more

Simply Amazing! Its difficult to drive by this tastey burger spot. The aroma is in the air from the Westward wind! Even when im not hungry, I'll slide into this spot for a single slider which always fills any void!! Best Slider in SanDiego, hands down! Its pretty fast getting In & Out !! read more

These burgers are top 5 burgers in SD. I love how they're sliders so we can try different burgers. You can't go wrong with their cheeseburgers! The meat is perfectly crispy with high quality wagyu. The bread they use is so good! It's soft and slightly sweet. The Nashville chicken sandwich was so tender and had a good spice to it! Their kids chicken tenders and fries has the best breading on it. It's so crispy and tender. It stays crispy too and didn't get soggy. I love their onion rings and fries! The onion rings has the perfect breading. It's crispy with thin breading. read more

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This place was delishhh! They're right that 2 sliders are one full burger/filling enough for sure. I want to try all their options but this time I got their classic award winning slider and the Bombay hot chicken. The chicken was perfectly juicy it was so good. I do think I liked the award winning slider slightly more. Overall, as a pickle lover I must say these are A+ pickles, which may sound silly, but means a LOT when I'm getting a burger!! My friend is gluten free and they easily allowed her to get 2 sliders, no bun. She loved it too. The fries were also so good. read more

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When the hubby says let's try one of our bucket list places for dinner..... SAY LESS!! So glad we tried this place. They have a bunch of menu options. The hubby is determined to go back and try more sliders.... Their wings too. Cute little spot with parking in the back. Cashier was super helpful as soon as we arrived. What we shared * The Classic * The Round Up * The Little Sal * Little Munchies * Frings #DiningWithTheAndersons #BabyPansaApproved #Sliders #Burgers #OceanBeach read more

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Yummy but overpriced. I ordered the eggplant and soft shell crab sliders. I would get the eggplant again but would pass on the crab. The buns were soggy on both. The restaurant is very small but does offer some indoor and outdoor seating. The workers were nice. read more

Rosemarie's Buns and Brews - Eggplant and soft shell crab sliders, to go - Burgers Near Me - San Diego, California

I did a lot of research on burgers for my SD trip and being that I'm staying in OB Hard choices Hodad's vs Rosemarie's Nice location away from the beach crowd on Newport ave. Good service and clean and cozy. Kid friendly as well. Food: we got the Rosemarie Mac and the Lil Sal sliders and the chicken tenders w fries and the elote fries They didn't ask me how I wanted the Rosemarie Mac cooked so it was but a little undercooked and if it was cooked for medium or medium minus it would've been The chicken tender and fries my son order it 2x during our trip Elote fries must try but I thought the micro greens was not necessary, the pickled onions but for visuals it worked The Lil Sal I likethe selection and varieties of sliders and they're good size sliders not like White Castle where you need to eat 15 of them to be satisfied. Good quality ingredients Good selection of local beers on tap Being it was my first time there a newbie I would go back and tighten my order for a fantastic meal experience Can't figure out this star system for halfs My rating 3.75 stars read more

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The service was quick and friendly. The food was good, I just wished they had some sauce on the side for the soft shell crab burger. However, it was really good and tasty. They also have a patio at the back with a big tv and it's really nice to sit and eat. read more

Rosemarie's Buns and Brews - Cajun Softshell Crab - Burgers Near Me - San Diego, California

We were excited to try Rosemarie's especially during happy hour! Order when you arrive with the person at the register. Your food will be brought to your table. We ordered a buffalo fried chicken slider, a burger slider and a shrimp slider. They were presented beautifully and please see details for their flavors on their menu. The buns on the sliders were perfect. Each held the fillings without melting away. My favorite was the burger, which I believe was a wagyu burger. We ordered the duck fat fries with elote corn. Outstanding dish! The crispness of the fries maintained their crispness even with the delicious toppings. Outstanding fries. Seating in the back area is especially nice. Restrooms are immaculate. read more

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I would give 5x5 stars the service was over the top good!!! Welcoming, explained all the different options and so speedy!! As good as the service was the food was even better!! Parking was great got a spot on the street a block away. Walked right up to the table, and there were more spots in back too! We got a great table by the open window to enjoy the beautiful night! Greeted by the nicest lady who was happy to help guide us on the menu. My daughter got the kids burger and fries which were the perfect size and tasty too! My husband and I both got the classic slider and then he got the eggplant slider which he thoroughly enjoyed, and I got the Softshell crab slider which was topped with slaw and so delicious! Plenty of alcoholic and other beverage options!! We will be back! read more

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Quick, delicious and friendly service. Stopped while on a bike ride and wanted something greasy and yummy and that's exactly what I got. I did the pick two sliders and side of fries. I opted for the RosieMac and the Little Sal. My favorite was the RosieMac, more simple but super tasty. Super friendly service by Italian worker Greta. read more

As local here and this is my first time coming here . Worth the hype for sure from walking in and seeing all the old school wedding photo like the ones your grandparents have to the friendly welcome I received when entering . We came around 12:30 and it wasn't too busy but parking was a headache . We ordered Brussels and onion rings and two slider one wagu the other was a Hawaiian style chicken . Everything was packed with flavor and would change anything about our food choices . Food arrived quickly once we ordered from the counter and the friendly female worker checked on us several times to make sure we are satisfied with our order . Keep up the good work definitely support this mom and pop mini slider place read more

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We were in town to visit family. My daughter wanted to try the veggie sliders. This is a walk up and order type place. We had planned to eat on the back patio,but since it wasn't crowded. We ate inside where it was cooler. I got the wygue and the soft shell crab sliders. I ordered the fries. My daughter couldn't eat them because they are fried in beef tallow. She only eats plant based foods. The wygue comes with sweet bacon. The fried crab had a super crispy crust. One of the best fried crust I've had. Will have to go back to try the fried chicken. The fries were crispy and well seasoned. read more

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Angelina was our server and she was so cheerful and helpful! The hamburgers are absolutely amazing -- so delicious. Highly recommended! Coming back for sure!!!! Thank you Angelina for the great service!! Cute Patio too! read more

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These sliders were packed with flavor! The luau burger was sweet and salty, which paired well with the pickled cabbage. The buns are soft and buttery. The Nashville hot chicken brought some heat, but you could tone it down with the pickle on top if needed. Although they're small, they were definitely filling! You can pass on the fries, nothing special. The service was great, the menu was clear, and they have a nice patio section to sit in (perfect for a sunny Sunday) read more

Better than I expected. Was going to just try the standard slider but they said get 2 and I did - the other was crab. Yummy. Disappointed I couldn't find a dark or even darkish beer but managed OK. Nearby to my home and will be back! read more

Rosemarie's Buns and Brews - The Classic and a crab slider - Burgers Near Me - San Diego, California

Amazing service, Very quick with quality ingredients. The menu has two options for if you are hungry or just need a snack which is great for on the fly. read more

We heard about this place from Yelp and saw a few Youtubers come to try their sliders. The restaurant is located in Ocean Beach on sunset Cliffs. It's mainly street parking. The restaurant is itself is very small but well decorated with only a few inside tables in the front and a few tables in the back sunroom. You order the counter and they bring your food to you after they give you a number. The staff was very friendly and gave us good recommendations. We went for a happy hour around 3 PM and the food came out fairly quickly as there were only a few other people there. The elote fries tasted just like it elote, but it was too salty. The onion rings were amazing! So crispy and fresh. The beef sliders were juicy, flavorful and had very unique flavor profiles. The fried chicken one was crispy and seasoned well. The beef sliders were a little bit too salty as well. Overall, we enjoyed our experience during happy hour, but don't come here for your health! read more

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I had been wanting to try this place and finally made it. Parking: we found street parking right away very close to the restaurant. We went in the late afternoon so that could be why. It's in a part of OB that isn't quite as busy as Newport, for example, so parking will be easier. Food: I had the single original RosieMac, and it was delicious. They use wagyu for the patties. You can also get a double, but the single was perfect for me. They call their burgers and sandwiches sliders, and it is smaller than your traditional cheeseburger, but definitely bigger than the standard "slider."One slider there was the perfect amount of food for me. They offer 2 sliders for $17, or $8.50 each. We didn't try the fries or onion rings, but they looked great. Ambiance: it's a relatively small place. You order at the register and seat yourself. You better hope there aren't a ton of people waiting because there is not much space for a long line. They have a small section of tables in the front of the restaurant as well as in back. They also have a small outdoor section in front of the restaurant that has bar seating. They are dog friendly! Service: the woman working there was very nice and friendly, but she was working by herself and it seemed like they could've definitely used one or two more people. It's possible someone called out or whatever, but hopefully they have a few more servers or staff during busy times. Improvement: holy flies. I'm not sure if it's only an issue in the summer, but there are a tremendous amount of flies flying all around the restaurant. The windows are open in front and you could not find anywhere without flies buzzing around constantly. Especially while you have food, there are just so many flies. I found myself trying to eat as fast as possible so the flies wouldn't ruin my food. That made it not very relaxing. I'll get my food to go next time to avoid the flies. The other thing is, imho, chicken sandwiches are best made with chicken breasts instead of chicken thighs. I would suggest going to Sunset Cliffs after to walk or sit by the water. It's very close & incredibly beautiful. read more

The sun is shining down from God in heaven and Ricky Sausage and co. have wandered into Rosemarie's Buns & Brews. What do we spy? Yelp top 100 for 2024 and 2025? The spirit of criticism compels me!! Tonight I dine with my wife, Beaky Sausage, and my 18 month old son, Uh-Oh Sausage, while we are on vacation. In the spirit of dining with an 18 month old, we arrive promptly at 5:15 PM on a Thursday. The restaurant only has one other patron dining with a baby. My people!! We start off with a basket of the spicy elote fries. We salivate profusely and rub our hands together like flies. Beaky notes "It's a huge portion. Quite spicy! Loved all the different peppers and pickled accoutrements." We are collectively splitting 4 sliders. The single meal accommodating two smaller burgers is an awesome idea! We love to try new things and share, and this format fits us perfectly. Burgers may feel quaint but innovation stirs here. We start with the Rosie Mac. Beaky finds it to be "Perfectly fine." This fine burger accomplishes the Big Mac-adjacent goal deliciously. This was definitely Uh-Oh's favorite (in addition to all pickled accoutrements throughout the meal). He Flavor Dances in enjoyment, the flavors painting a melody in his mind. Next we're on to the Lil Munchies. Amidst firework-like explosions of mayonnaise, Beaky remarks "Very messy! Mayonnaise was going everywhere. But delicious!" And how about the softshell crab burger? Beaky says "Truly softshell. No hard pieces. Usually I get hard pieces and realize 'I don't like softshell crab.' Not the case here!" Finally, we had the Nashville Hot Chicken. Beaky belches fire while stating "It was spicy! A drier hot chicken (which was nice!) and not super messy. The chicken was so moist and high quality." Overall, we had a lovely and delightful experience. The only oddness was the auditory battle of loud reggae playing front-of-house against loud reggaeton in back-of-house. We are excited for the new server that was training up tonight. We know she'll do great!! Here's to Yelp's Top #1 in 2026... Go get 'em, Rosie's Hot-Cross-Buns! read more

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I was looking for some place new that had outdoor seating and was dog friendly. Rosemarie's came up but I had already been. But then one of my friends said it's their second location. OOOoooooohhh! LOL! Parking is actually easier at this location. It's also in an area of OB that isn't too busy but busy enough for the restaurants along Sunset Cliffs. Friendly greeting and the young woman was excited that it was our first time. Love that the menu is simple. We each had the the Classic and the Round Up, a huge plate of fries, and two glasses of red wine. Yeah, we're not really beer drinkers. They also have soft drinks too! Both burgers were very good! The fries were nice and crispy! It was fun sitting outside and watching a number of people coming and going. This area reminds of those small coastal beach towns where a number of neighbors know each other! Definitely worth checking out and I can't wait to come back! Cako Approves! read more

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Move over HODAD'S, there's a new BEST BURGER in OB! My son is a burger connoisseur so for his birthday he wanted to try his place. Can't believe it took us this long! It immediately jumped into our top five burger joints in San Diego! They only do sliders, and all the beef is Wagyu, but they have a good variety and the cost is the same regardless of toppings. Their happy hour is killer too! They don't have a huge selection of beers, but during happy hour they're only $5! We got a good sample of everything, including the Cajun softshell crab slider. their fries were huge, perfectly crispy, and definitely shareable The service was excellent! Rosa was both cashier & server but she was friendly & patient with us. She even brought out my son a complementary dessert, which was delicious. Definitely going back (prob next week?). read more

Rosemarie's Buns and Brews - My son is a burger connoisseur, and immediately this place jumped into his TOP 5 Best Burger joint in SD! - Burgers Near Me - San Diego, California

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Always a vibe. Always delicious. One slider honestly is enough to fill me up, which is a bummer because I wish I had room for more. So many tasty options. read more

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Finally made it to Rosemarie's Buns and Brews. I've been wanting to go here for awhile and was able to use a Be Our Guest deal. We stopped by for lunch and I must say, we thoroughly enjoyed our meal. The sliders were so flavorful, fresh, and high quality! The fries and onion rings were elevated! Really good sauce, too. Really nice ambiance inside and they also have some outdoor seating in the back. Again, the food here is amazing, but what really impressed me was the exceptional customer service by Maci. She was so nice to us and we watched how she continued to provide such excellent customer service to other customers. Highly recommended Rosemaries for their delicious high quality food, great ambience, nice selection of beverages, and again, exceptional customer service! Also, I must say, they have the best napkins! read more

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I had been wanting to go here for ages and got a chance finally. This is a no frills delicious food joint. Food: I don't think there was any slider that I didn't like and since we were in a group, I got to try quite a few. My favorites were The Rosemarie, Bombay Chicken and the Luau. Ambiance: Its a small place where you areder and then go looking for seating. They do have a surprising amount of seating. I went on a Saturday evening and it was quite easy to find a spot. Service: The folks here are very sweet and welcoming. Since it was our first time, they gave us some great recs. The food came in quite quick and was hot. In-all: Whenever I am in the area next time, I'll definitely go in and grab a quick bite. read more

I was in Ocean Beach to go to a show so we came down early for dinner and a show! parked on Newport and walked over here (I didn't want to park twice) It was a short leisurely walk. we found a seat quickly (the only open table at the moment). ordered at counter. Lady was very friendly we ordered a bombay chicken slider and the Rosiemac (single) plus a full order of onion rings. Plus hubby had an easyrider beer Onion rings came out first and we had to try to not finish them before our sliders came out. (next time i'll specifically ask for them to be brought out together). I guess i accidentally ordered a Nashville Hot chicken instead b/c that was brought to us, so we added a Bombay to our order. so 3 sliders and an order of onion rings to share between 2...let me tell that was more than enough. Don't let the word slider trick you into ordering too much! I am looking forward to returning and trying other items =) only room for improvement is bringing the sides at same time as slider. read more

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Small and dirty, maybe they didn't have enough staff working but tables were dirty, food trays piled up and just gross. We ordered and didn't realise they charged us for 2 extra burgers... so had to get refund for that. They brought the fries out first and they were cold. The burgers/sliders just weren't good at all and we tried 4 different ones. Our sons favorite food is cheeseburger he didn't even eat his kids burger. DEFINITLY won't be going back! read more

Great service and delicious food!!!! Saw this place on Gareth Eats and been waiting to try it. My family tried the following sliders; Rosiemac, soft shell crab, Nashville hot chicken, little Sal, little munchie, the luau, and the Bombay. We also had the following fries; spicy elote, blue cheese and bacon, and regular fries w/ chipotle aioli. Where thing was flavorful. We got our fries first and started devouring them and thought they were amazing until the sliders came. The fries were delicious but the sliders stole the show. Each slider we got tasted completely different and unique. The rosiemac and little Sal are both wagyu burger patty's and so flavorful and juicy. Can't wait to go back. My husband already has his order in mind lol and is going to skip fries to have more sliders lol. We got a picture of everything except the Bombay and luau sliders and the regular fries because someone started eating before we could get a picture. Believe me the pictures do not do this place justice and cannot capture the tasty food. read more

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Great onion rings and tasty sliders Not cheap but flavors were excellent , service was friendly. read more

We heard about this place on a YouTube channel. It came HIGHLY recommended and lived up to the expectations. The meat quality is superb. The combination of toppings, flavor, and quality of beef was outstanding. The place is quaint. Away from the hustle and bustle of Ocean Beach, but within walking distance. It was a GREAT date night place for us. We hope it will be for you too read more

Been meaning to write this review for a few weeks! This is quickly becoming one of my favorite "treat yo self" spots in OB. Have been twice now and both times have not disappointed. The staff is always super friendly. The packaging for takeout has been quality (idky but the nice napkins just make the whole experience better - and you will need them!) And the food, well, fantastically satisfying! This most recent visit I tried the Round Up, Little Sal, and the Bacon Blue Fries. Don't let the slider fool you, it's plenty of food! From the garnishes, to the flavors, it's just delicious!! I can't wait to come back and try more :) read more

Rosemarie's Buns and Brews - Little Sal and The Round Up - one of them was a little sweet for my liking, but the other one (with onion ring) was spot on!! - Burgers Near Me - San Diego, California

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"pretty good little joint, I've been a few times and plan to go back." Try the RosieMac and Little Munchies. I have ordered a bunch of different ones and honestly recommend all of them except maybe the Nashville chicken. When I had it, it was sorta dry and kinda powdery. You could tell it was well seasoned, but it was missing something. The RosieMac just hits. So good. The little Sal with the bacon whiskey sauce is a vibe as well, giving just a little punch of flavor. The little munchies is just heaven in your mouth. Very very saucccyy. I'm pretty sure I ordered the bleu cheese crumbles on the side, don't come for me. Just not a fan. The soft shell crab one is pretty good, for when you're feeling adventurous. Lemon aioli shines through. Just consider you're ordering soft shell crab, not alaskan king crab. ya heard? Anywho, Great vibe at this place. The guys who work there are super friendly and helpful. They only have a few beer choices. The IPA they have is okay, but scratches the hoppy itch. read more

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Hands down Best Burger in OB! Obsessed with this place! Always great service and food is always AMAZING!! I send so many people here read more

Rosemarie's Buns and Brews - Rosemarie Burger - Burgers Near Me - San Diego, California

Casual spot with indoor and outdoor seating. The small rear dining room had national news playing loudly, so I moved to the front where music was playing. Service was super friendly. My first time there, I visited during happy hour when they have a selection of sliders for seven dollars each, and drink discounts. I tried three sliders, We Have Eggplant, Captain Jack, and a Rosiemac, the house Wagyu burger. I can't tell you which was my favorite, they were all amazing and delicious. If I had to pick, I'd probably go with the eggplant because it's unusual. The eggplant was sliced thin, crispy on the outside and creamy on the inside, in a nice stack on the bun. So good. The Captain Jack had two large shrimp on it, grilled just right. The Wagyu burger was decadent and delicious. I will definitely return, and it doesn't have to be during happy hour. At two for $17 with a wider selection, the sliders are a pretty good value at regular price. I want to try soft shell crab next! read more

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I usually look at photographs before I order, but today I didn't. I went into this blindly with only the knowledge that it was named the best burger spot in the San Diego Magazines Best Restaurant List of 2024. The name Rosemarie's is just too cute so I stopped by today with some friends! There were soo many tasty sounding choices but I only went with one slider since I wasn't too sure the size of them (even though it was mentioned on the menu-- I'm more of a visual person). I ordered the Little Munchies Slider with no blue cheese crumbles. It honestly blew my mind that this was called little munchies because the chicken piece was actually quite large -- in comparison to the buns of course. Personally, the temperature of the chicken was soo hot that I couldn't taste the delicious flavors that were described on the menu: "Marinated & deep fried chicken thigh + chef's special wildflower honey buffalo sauce + ranch drizzle [- blue cheese crumbles] + Kewpie mayo." Since I'm not used to perfectly cooked chicken thighs I was a little unsure about eating a softer feeling chicken (I'm used to over cooked I bet)-- that's just me! I love 'spicy' chicken sandwiches so I had to order it! It cost $8. My friend got The Luau $8 which was highly recommended to me. This had a teriyaki grilled pineapple on it that paired really well with the slaw and wagyu. I was deciding between this one and the little munchies so I'll give this one a try next time. Two of them ordered the Cajun Soft Shell Crab $8. This looked spectacular, if I liked soft shell crab. It had a refreshing smear of lemon aioli and old bay slaw. Omg, that combo is just a killer! Also ordered the Nashville Hot Chicken $8 and Cajun Fries. These were chowed down on and finished cleanly. The fries were perfectly seasoned and cooked. Next time, I would also get one of their "Happy Endings" aka dessert menu items! The caramel apple fritters sounded so delicious. I like this spot because the menu is extensive and the worker was super friendly. They had indoor seating and back patio seating as well. After you order at the front, you're given a number stand to bring to your table. And the worker will bring out your order when it's ready. It's a bit on the pricey side for 1 slider, but sadly that's just how it is now. read more

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If you're looking for delicious sliders stop by at Rosemarie's Buns & Brews on Mission Boulevard. If walking north on the Mission Beach boardwalk, turn right on Sunset Ct and restaurant will be to your left on Mission Blvd. We really enjoyed The Classic Double Wagyu slider and the Nashville Hot Chicken sliders. Both were very tasty, juicy and seasoned well. The sliders are a bit pricey but worth it. The French fries were also tasty and very crispy. We ordered a basket of Kids fried Chicken poppers they were pretty good. They do have IPA beers, wine, mimosas and Micheladas. Give this place a try! Happy Yelping :) read more

Rosemarie's Buns and Brews - Rosemarie's Buns and Brews Mission Beach, CA - Burgers Near Me - San Diego, California

We looked for a lunch spot near Sunset Cliffs and found Rosemarie's Buns and Brews. Note that they have a location on Mission Blvd. and another on Sunset Cliffs Blvd. We sat an in indoor patio area with multiple tables. You order in front, and the staff brings the food over to your table. It was empty at the time we visited at 1 pm, but more people arrived. I got two sliders ($17): the Little Sal and The Round Up. We also shared spicy elote fries ($14) and Eddie's famous churros ($10.50). I didn't realize after looking at my receipt that they added a 4% service charge. This is a great place to visit with a group since you can share a side and dessert in addition to getting your own sliders. Both sliders had delicious wagyu patties and sauces. To make up for size, they were packed with flavor. The toothpicks helped keep the sliders intact when eating them. I liked how The Round Up had a little onion ring and bacon crumble. With the fries, I enjoyed the chipotle aioli on the fries but felt that they had a little too much seasoning. It tasted a tad too salty at some points. Our dessert included six churros, a few big scoops of vanilla ice cream, and cajeta quemada, a Mexican caramel made with slow-cooked goat's milk. The staff member who brought our food excitedly explained the dessert, and it tasted very delicious. For the price, I'd highly recommend ordering this. While we enjoyed the filling meal, the ambience wasn't the best. For example, there were stubborn flies around our food that we had to shoo away many times. Also, after we finished our food, we realized that the bathroom didn't have any soap at the time. read more

Fries are fire and the ranch is drinkable; cannot resist shoveling these bad boys straight into my pie hole. However. Too expensive for the amount of food and quality. Good food but overhyped. Strange large pickled vegetables stabbed on top of burgers. Sticky ahh table. How strange it is to be anything at all. read more

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Fabulous! Burgers were delicious, beautifully balanced and impeccably prepared. You can tell that the people behind this place really care about food! Especially recommend the Little Sal..(including great bacon jam! ) Onion rings were well spiced, perfectly crispy and generously portioned. Staff was super friendly and inviting. I walked out grinning widely. read more