TL;DR Duncan's egregiously high prices, while most likely not an issue for your Silicon Valley transplants and old money boomers, price out hardworking, middle income families. If your plumbing problem appears straightforward, or you don't want to flush cash down the toilet, call someone else, or look it up on YouTube.
Sorry for the long post, but for the sake of being factual to a fault, I've supplied as many details below
I have a Rinnai tankless hot water heater that recently crapped out due to a faulty venturi motor (found in the gas supply valve). While the part was under a limited 5 year warranty through Rinnai (who I have problems with separately from this review), it required me to call a licensed plumber in the area to come diagnose the issue and fix the problem. No issue here.
One of their technicians came out and told us, in order to start working, they would have to charge a $435 diagnostic fee. While my wife and I felt the sticker shock run through, we have a newborn that requires us to have hot water. So we sucked it up and had him proceed. This led to a call with Rinnai and subsequent hard reset of the hot water heater, which corrected the issue. The fix in total took about 1/2 hour, but as Duncan always charges "Per Task" and not "Per Hour" they were able to walk away from this job with a total charge of $870/hour. (These are the times you say to yourself "Why didn't I become a plumber?") But it is what it is and we had hot water. No complaints....
Until the hot water stopped working 72 hrs later. According to Rinnai, Duncan plumbing should have ordered the gas supply valve replacement on their first trip out, but they did not. Instead of calling around to some other plumber, and to keep our limited warranty on the hot water heater in place, we called Duncan again to come back out and look at it since their fix didn't completely correct the issue. My wife argued that we shouldn't have to pay since their first diagnostic didn't fix the problem, (or actually diagnose anything to see if the part was indeed faulty), and they agreed on the phone, but tried to charge us again once a plumber showed up. This would have been another $435 dollars, but was able to correct the mix up. This plumber proceeded to do nothing as Rinnai was not open at that time.
Duncan came back out the following Monday, same guy as the first time, and said this time they would have to charge us to do anything, which was essentially diagnosing the problem (which the error code indicates the problem), and ordering a part, all for another $435 dollars (At this point, if we would have agreed to all potential charges, we would have payed a total of $1305 for a $1200 heater, to not even FIX it yet). We did not agree to having any more diagnostic work being done, and instead settled on having them order the part (which I imagine they would say they did for free, but I would say should have come under the initial $435, but I won't argue getting them to order it for "Free")
After the part was ordered, they sent us an estimate for installing the new part for $821 ($937 with a membership discount of $116. Thank goodness that initial $435 got us something!!) To reiterate, at this junction, if we had agreed to all charges assessed, we would be in the hole $2126. This is roughly $275 dollars less than two new Rinnai tankless heaters (at the time we bought them anyways).
While my wife and I do fine financially, we thought this was absurd. It appears that charging "by task" , along with their Diamond Certification, gives Scott Duncan 'carte blanche' to set prices of tasks aggressively high, to the point it appears exploitative.
At this point, we declined the work, as we would have found someone else to do it for cheaper, but asked for the part since they called for it ( and since we needed a licensed plumber to do so) . Their response was that they couldn't do that since they would be ultimately responsible for the installation of the part regardless of who installed it. Strike 3!
Alas they kept the part. We denied the service and told them to send the part back.
I bought the part online for $190 dollars, followed a step by step YouTube video to remove the old, busted gas supply valve and install a new one. Took me about 1/2 hour to complete. I also knew how to perform this repair beforehand calling Duncan, and was aware of the amount of work required to install the new part, and this is where the "by task" pricing really only works out for you if you have a massive issue with unknown variables that requires an unforeseen amount of hours to fix. Damn the Gatekeeping of plumbing work!!!
Overall, a limited warranty is not worth keeping when a plumbing company wants to charge you almost twice the cost of the heater itself to assess and fix a problem you yourself could do for a 1/10th the cost in less than an hour. read more