This is the message I sent after my experience yesterday: I am at the lowest financial point I can remember, going through a divorce that has crushed my credit and finances. I heard and spoke with yall about the programs your offering. Credit amnesty..etc. I thought that Elder was going to be the out of the box company that could help me because I make much more than what Elder was asking for as part of this program. I drove all the way up there to meet the kind of company I would like to do business with. I waited there a couple hours just to be told that I would need thousands down. The one thing Elders advertisements claimed they would not do. Now I've wasted an afternoon I could have been working just to meet another car salesman, on another car lot that's controlled by a bank.  Two thousand dollars seems like something a company like Elders could have helped me with, keeping my business today and in the future. read more

Me and my wife came in at 3:30 to discuss the possibility of purchasing a vehicle from their new inventory. Things were going well for a while, but for some reason we felt like the process was dragged out. Our 3YO son was crying by the end of this excruciatingly long process. Finally we hear we're good to go, I test drive the car, and the salesman comes out with paperwork and keys. I start filling out everything and all of a sudden I need my wife's proof of residency. Our lease, her drivers license, her insurance card, and her voter registration card was not good enough. We ended up leaving the dealership frustrated with no vehicle after we agreed to all terms and prices laid out by the salesperson. My wife was furious, my son was exhausted, and now I have to mitigate a furious wife. I'm frustrated with the fact that we couldn't get around something as silly as proof of residency when we already supposedly got the approval from the bank. After that debacle, I regretfully obliged to add myself as a co-signer, had 3-4 hard credit inquiries put on my score, and all of a sudden we're being told we needed to consider looking at a cheaper car and bring a down payment.. what!? One, stop lying to your customers about having an approval from the bank when you don't have anything yet. Two, be upfront and honest about how long the process will take instead of dragging people on a 4 hour tour while you slam every bank in the USA with financing requests. Three, stop giving shitty 25$ restaurant.com gift cards. These things are trash and comes nowhere near to the value of my time lost. Restaurant.com gift cards are basically coupons.... Shame on you Scott Elder and team for dragging my family through four hours of hell. read more

First I would like to say I am beyond disappointed again.... this makes the second time I visited the dealership and again for a used car they wanted half down.... seriously?? the dime down sale is a gimmick. I asked several times before I made the hour and a half trip to the dealership. complete bologna, they tell u anything to get u there. even went as far as to say I'd get a gift card for dinner. I would not recommend elder Mitsubishi to anyone. as soon as u are greeted by a salesperson they tell u that they don't make commissions and they show it. could care less what lies u were told to get u there. DONT WASTE YOUR TIME because they don't mind wasting it for you. read more

They sent flyers out for prizes. Scratch off and bring in for your prize if you are a winner. Three matched and we called, thinking it's fishy. But they assured my wife that there was prize there. Well, she thought it was worth the odd out chance at 2500, what the symbols were that all matched. So she drops by and the salesperson says she has won a smart watch. Okay, cool. Then he tells her they have run out. What? Right..... Honestly, would anyone ever with business with a business so dishonest? BBB is next. read more

Their all lies we take the time to go out to cedar park from austin with the promise of my friend getting into a car & a gift card & also for me takin him I'd get a gift card as well. The deal they told him about getting him into a car were lies just around & around not getting no wheres they look at us like we know their job & they leave out details but wonder why we seem so lost but they're not up from with details they can really make a person feel stupid I'd never go back or recommend them to anyone on top of it all we only got one gift card called dine.restaurant.com & it's not even a deal we still gotta put $ in & drive 20-25 miles but even at that theirs nothing close or worth drive or money I wouldn't recommend that app either. Elders Mitsubishi workers were snooty rude & seem to have attitudes about us not going with what they wanted us to go for. we as customers were treated unfairly & like a laughing stock especially with this under the papers in their drawer gift card that at 1st tried saying they didn't have any. We left elder Mitsubishi feeling worse about car hunting then what we were already feeling about getting out their with the run around car hunting can already be they just ruined everything about our next chapter our big deal in life. Everything about them was piss poor dont waist the time or energy with lies read more

I live in South Austin, but made the drive up to Elder after a recommendation from a friend. The experience was definitely worth it, as I've never had such a friendly and smooth car buying experience! Steven was an amazing salesman, and the whole team was helpful along each step. Thanks, y'all! :) read more

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I would not recommend this place for anyone unless you enjoy trying to be swindled or have a car sold out from under you. This is also coming from someone who works in the dealer world. I was told they couldnt budge on a price for a vehicle even though the vehicle had issues from the start (i.e. parking assist inop, all tires different brands, services not performed, missing interior trim) after three days of communication back and forth i was still told sorry we cant budge on the price or fix the issues once again. Fast forward two days and boom long and behold the price had dropped 4000 dollars, i recieved no phone call even after i had tried calling them and now the car is sold. I guess i was lucky to not buy it the first day because i wouldve been ripped off 4 grand. So moral of the story friends stay away because you will get swindled on the price or theyll just drop the price not tell you so they can sell the car out from under your feet. read more

Hello Kristen, I can't believe that I received an email like everything was great! I will NEVER do business with this company again... ever. I purchased a vehicle which I returned. This was the biggest mistake ever and the employees were more concerned about selling a vehicle than anything. I made the purchase and my mom was supposed to be the co-signer but the paperwork had it all backwards and you had the nerve to send this to my mom without going over the paperwork to catch your mistakes. My credit was ok and my mom credit is perfect and yet my interest rate was super high. I was going to keep it long enough to refinance but then I realized all the mistakes and games. I couldn't contact the sales person (Phillip) the next day( or after )of the purchase. He was on vacation 3 days a week for at least 2 weeks time. This was a terrible experience and the company should learn from it but I will never step foot in this establishment and will never advise anyone to visit, look or ever purchase from this company! Phillip told me they are different. 1, we won't keep u here for hours. I was there close to 8 hours. 2. We won't run your credit with lots of banks... lies. This part still doesn't make sense especially when ur credit score is over 800! 3, you offer discounts and gift cards that u really don't give. How do you take $500 off the interest rate? The lies told to me. Smh! Yes u were funny and entertaining and that was appreciated. You were also insulting. I still can't believe you asked if I had someone alter/fix my credit as if I didn't have legit credit on my own! I work hard on my credit! My mom does too... btw she is still receiving "denial letters" somehow. I have 14 hits on my credit due to this situation. It was also weird that the car I text drove was switched out at the last minute for a different color car and no explanation. I will say that I really liked the first car and the 2nd car was a little bit louder when starting but either way there was no way I would pay $30,000 for 2019 Malibu. This was a terrible experience! After all of this I should have a car delivered to me just because. read more

Referee my dad to Elder and he's leaving with a new Outlander! Never seen him as excited

Recently moved in from out of state and needed a car as I am now a full time student. I came in with my prior paystubs from my past employment, tax documents, bank statements and a co-signer because I am unemployed because of school. They customer service is very friendly and nice and the sales rep Brendan we had was very professional. I had prepared for $1,500 down and less than $300 a month payments for financing. When we were doing the application before looking at cars I had told Brendan that I've just moved in from out of state so I'm not employed as I am a student. I told him I didn't have my current pay stub from my employment because it's still the same pay period and whatnot so he took my February one for filling out the application. He said that I was actually still "technically" employed since I haven't gotten my last paycheck yet(In April I will). Unfortunately that statement did miss-lead myself because this was my first time getting a car from a dealership. I thought I was unemployed but from what he said it was the opposite. After about 7 hard inquiries(ouch) I was approved through capital one and we were very excited and started to check cars out. Mind this whole process took 7 HOURS. Fast forward I pick a outlander for $1,500 down and 260-ish a month. Drive the car around. The left break light and front headlight was out BTW(I had to come back to have that fixed). Surprisingly I didn't need a co-signer I was approved! I signed a bunch of documents in the end and I did actually put on the employment verification sheet(I have proof and my own copies) that I will NOT have a income in 60 days and even put a note I just moved in from out of state I.e unemployed. Fast forward AGAIN. 3WEEKS LATER. Date is: Match 23, 2021. 3/23/21. I get a call from Rob the manager? He was kind of short with me at first but he wasn't rude or anything. He told me that capital one had NOT approved my car financing due to the employment check part. And he wanted the car back ASAP. I was pretty mad and kind of shook up. I asked why and he said I lied on my application for being employed. He basically attacked me. Brendan is the one who did my application on his computer. He said I didn't need a co-signer. He said I was still technically employed when I told him about my move and how I haven't received my last check. I understand it's not approved right and they get the car back then. But this should've been done THAT DAY. Not almost a month later... But they let me have a CAR FOR A MONTH. On the application he didn't even fill in all the boxes either. He spelled my workplace weird and on the forms I signed they didn't even put my ID in. I offered EVERYTHING. That's seriously messed up. I didn't like how the manager was kind of blaming me and shamming me in the process. I didn't understand I felt very miss lead by Brendan. It didn't help that my aunt who was there with me in the whole process was also yelling at the manager so then the whole conversation ended up being very unprofessional. The manager Rod did mention before all of the yelling that if my aunt would co-sign it might also be less inexpensive and I could keep the car. THIS WAS NOT OFFERED WHEN I GOT THE CAR. I understand the process and approval and all of that. Why didn't they let my Aunt co-sign?? The sales rep Brendan miss lead us in the process for the application. I wish he had better training perhaps and than I would've have had to go through that. What if I wasn't in town when they called. Like I had the car which I was inform I was approved of. 3/23/21 They showed up at my house. Ironically Brendan did. And they didn't give me any warning they were on the way. I had to rush and embarrassingly get my crap of the the car and he drove it off. I wanted to say something because if he had better training and whatever this would've had happened. It's so embarrassing to have that happen. I have my down payment pending in my account still so at least I got that back. I had to rush and find another car and I purchased one from Ford MAXWELL! The process was so fast and easy. They were straightforward and I now knew to ask the correct questions. They said they have herd any stories on this place as well. Don't recommend this place. Ironically it's Friday 3/26 and Elder Mitsubishi sent me a email asking for review and congratulating me on my new car. WTF? Yeah I'll leave a good review. Note: I did not receive a copy of the registration either. I didn't know I needed that until someone told me but good thing I wasn't pulled over. I would've have anything to snow except I insurance. read more

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Please do not waste your time buying a vehicle from this place. It is an absolute joke from top to bottom. These people are crooks, and we have had the worst car buying experience EVER dealing with them. The finance team is a joke and has hung up on us when trying to get clarification. The people who write up the contracts apparently like to add service contracts in when there was no discussion. I could go on for days but tired of typing. PLEASE GO TO ANOTHER DEALER, THEY DO NOT DESERVE YOUR BUSINESS! read more

The Worse Mitsubishi dealership in Texas! I would not get your car serviced here. I bought a brand new 2022 Mitsubishi Outlander in December 2022, a early Christmas gift to myself. I Took my car in on Thursday 04/21/2022 for my first oil change and drove it for 2.5 days and the car started smoking. I opened the hood to see oil everywhere and realizing the technician forgot to put the oil cap on. I called the dealership first thing Monday morning. I spoke with Curtis and explained what happened and he transferred me to Rusty the service manager. I explained what happened again and he made arrangements to pick up the car. After the tow truck dropped the car off at 10:32am I received a missed call from Curtis at 11:08 am. I called him right back and he was calling to let me know the car was fine and there was 3 quarts of oil still in the car. I was like how because the dip stick barley had any oil on the tip. He bypassed that question and then told me the car is fine and to come get the car. I told him that I had a lot of concerns before I pickup the car and I needed the charger outlet to be looked at because it doesn't work. After talking to him I spoke with Rusty on what was done to my car in less than 30 minutes after it was dropped off? How did you clean all that oil off the engine, the top of the hood, the front of the car and down by the tires. He said they sprayed a degreaser and hosed it down. So how do I know if there is any damage that was done to my brand new vehicle? He said I had a warranty and as long as I keep up the Maintenace the car would be fine. I was like WHAT!!!! So I brought my car to the servicing department new and left with a used car. When I picked up my car I noticed the person who parked my car hit a parking sign because my car was over it and the sign was laying in the grass. So I took a picture of it and took pictures of how they did a half ass job cleaning under the hood. The top of the hood was still drenching in oil and oil smeared on the front of the car. This dealership literally messed up my new car and they couldn't do the right thing and steam clean everything under the hood and wash the car. I have major asthma and after I left the dealership the oil that was still on the engine it started smoking and it made me have back to back asthma attacks. Before I picked up the car, I told Rusty several times about my asthma and any smoke or fumes would make me have an asthma attack. I guess he didn't care he just wanted me to hurry up and pick up my car. After doing a little research I found out that this service department under the supervision of Rusty, done this before and other things. I was real happy when I bought my car and now it doesn't even drive the same. Please do not take your car to Elder Mitsubishi because you will b be the next victim of negligence with this dealership and their management team. read more

This place is terrible bait and switch says low down payment. Then tried to tell I needed 6 grand . I tried to get as much info over phone so wouldn't waste my time . CALL AND GET INFO FIRST before wasting ur time. Then internet guy lied about calling me back never got call bk. BUYER BEWARE. DONT WASTE YOUR TIME HERE. read more

I called in and explained my situation and was told they could help me and had several promotions to assist also. I got there and filled out some paperwork, then was presented a car I knew was wel above what I could pay for, I mentioned this and was told this is the car mgmt said I should show u based on ur info. So we test drive and I like the car and I'm told ok let's what we svn work out. Of course 30 minutes later I'm told u need a co signer. I asked for financial or credit reasons? I'm told financial I point blank say ok I have someone who can consign but not for credit worthiness only financial he says that's all that's needed. I go thru the trouble of getting my person to provide info then an hour goes by I look at my salesman and I say what's taking so long his response was they're actually working on it now for u....umm seriously? What were they doing before? Finally two hours later I get told here's what we can offer half the price of the car they showed me along with a sizeable down payment, I looked at him and I'm like I thought the car was double this price he says oh yeah this is for a different vehicle... Wth??? How are u going to just decide what vehicle without even telling me and presenting terms like they were based on original car? What do u mean they were actually working on it for u after supposedly working on it for an hour before even going as far as showing me a car and telling me that's what looks like I qualify for. I did not like the little things they did on purpose to try to subconsciously hook u in. They asked what my tope three things in a car would be them basically sent me on a test drive with that in mind. They had me sign a written out paper that said if terms can be agreed to I would be willing to purchase the vehicle today, why? That was so weird except it keeps people dangling and that sucks. This places water 3 hours of my life and I was promised two gift cards I asked twice about while waiting and never got them. At the conclusion when I was told a completely different vehicle I was done and said give me my keys. I will never do business with them. read more

They pull your credit before you even select a vehicle, that way they trap you into taking a loan to recover from the credit hit. Terrible experience, DO NOT GO HERE! read more

I will try to make this short. I went to this location after listening to their radio commercial and drove about an hour to this place. I wanted to see one of their used cars listed for 14k Did the test drive after they had done the 200 point inspection and repairs only to find that the car had a notable vibration as I drove. Sales person suggested I used that information to get the price reduced instead of offering to fixing it. Once we got back to do all the required information to purchase this vehicle suddenly the price was 5k more than it was listed on their website. Their idea of a small down payment was 7.5K. More than 50% of car value. I had asked to keep my monthly payment on or around 350$ but in their offer they made it to over 700$. And then the salesman suggested we start to haggle with the managers to buy the car. I really thought that the years of haggling were long gone. Well, as far as Elder Mitsubishi being the dealer for the people is just a scam to draw people into their web of lies. That's all I have to say. Hope this helps someone else. read more

Have family We have five Kids and needed a new family car. Jovani was was very polite and took the time to show different vehicles in our price range stayed late to help us thru the process. Never felt rushed he made sure our kids got something to eat they were having a bbq the next day when we went to pick up the car. Made sure I got to hit the gong lol. Jovani Rrocks I would recommend him to anyone one whole heartedly. read more

Extremely lousy service; waited an hour for nothing (and mind you, I had an appointment), my vehicle was still sitting on the lot, unattended; i should bill them for my wasted time. read more

Where do I start.... For months, after submitting my email and phone number, just to preview what they had, Text messages and emails AND phone calls almost every day! Then, when I saw something that might actually work for me, (Please note that not once but every time you leave their website, you have to re-enter your contact information to preview the inventory, then you get certificates for your spending limits in your email) I reached out to Ron, asking to move forward with the process.... For three weeks, they wanted more and more info. I sent it and they said they would call me back. Almost two weeks ago was the last time they called. I was waiting for terms and never got them. I just called to find out that my down went up 300% due to my credit. I am not perfect but the down is not reasonable. It was in the amount of almost half the price of the 7000.00 car! (Carvana's down was 600.00 for a 25k car.) What it looks like is that the down was so much, they were afraid to call me and tell me! ".... For the People!" Yeah, right! read more

Just want to do a 2nd review about the vehicle. I really got a lot of help after spiking to the GM and they didi a lot for my troubles with the car. I ended up getting w newer car they traded the other vehicle and my payments is lowered as well. They fixed the old car and gave memo money back from what I paid at the shop. My daughter loves the new car from the photos and they also will transport the car to my daughter at college for free. The staff was very nice. Thanks again read more

I was told I was approved for up to 25,000 in credit if I made 350 or more a week. And was told I would have to put nothing down. Well that was all a lie...they showed me 2 vehicles they said I was approved for then turned around and told me I needed 4500 down. The SUV was less then 20,000 dollars. So I don't understand how you say I am apprived for 25,000 and then want 4,000 down. Got my hopes up and wasted my time and the person who gave me a ride. read more

Bait and switch. They pull in say 50 people and if they get one or two sales after they "filter out" the hopeful people that hear the false adds that promise them hope, but can't get a car, they sell a few and consider that a win for the dealership. They don't care if they waste 47 people's time. Oldest read more

Any company that will not allow you to view their for sale inventory to the general public who has the money that keeps their doors open, without entering your personal contact information will never see two nickels from me! read more

If there was a zero star option I would give it. I messaged them telling them my entire situation and my credit, my money down and everything and they told me they could help me and I had a guaranteed approval. I told them I lived a hour away and if they couldn't help me to tell me. Well I wasted time, fuel in my husbands truck and I had 7 hard inquiries on my credit score now. unless you have 6k or more down do not even bother with this dealership!!!! read more

Had a horrible experience with them. Do not give them your money. Much better people in the Austin area to do business with.

Get this....not only the SHADIEST DEALER AROUND. They sell crap cars and RIP YOU off! Had the car less than 30 days. Check engine light on and HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE. CHECK ALL CARS BEFORE BUYING. They are not the only dealer in town for bad credit. They take advantage of people and WILL make your situation worse. Now I get to have a junk and lose 1500 in less than 30 days on a down payment. Dealer for the BANK not the people. Doesn't matter who you speak to, all the same. You are screwed the minute you drive off. read more

They sucked as dream cars austin and they still suck now. Dont waste your time. Was promised by chris molina joto a vehicle over text. When i went there he told me today was not my day for that vehicle and that im dreaming a little too close past the stars. He thought by not telling me i would change my mind and get that small ass mirage dumbass car everyone gets. No i did not want that piece of v3 dumb car. He wanted 10k down just because i did not want to trade a vehicle im already financing. Dont waste your time here unless you wanna be bullshitted like me. You come here youre just as stupid as me. read more

This place is a complete JOKE and has no effective management or customer service! "Let me ask my manager." is all the little sales minions know to recite and have NO actual company or customer service knowledge. Wow! Literally 5 different people including the finance manager, could not effective assist to access my Roadside Assistance package they provide! No urgency, no progressional and literally no CLUE. read more

I will say that this was probably the least pressurized sales experience I've ever had. I was in tne market for a minivan and every place I want wanted a crazy high amount down along with monthly payments that would never be able to be kept up with. Elder had the car I wanted for a reasonable sticker price and then worked with me to meet the payments I continued afford. I will say tne one thing you can't do is believe the 5 cent down commercials if you make s certain amount a week. Love my van and I can honestly say I enjoyed the buying experience. read more

If I could give zero stars I would! We were sold a salvaged truck. Paid $26,000 for it and 2 years later it's worth less than $6,000 in the same condition that we bought it. We've been back multiple times trying to get them to resolve the issue leaving with absolutely nothing resolved. We got screwed and I will leave a bad review every single day until this is fixed. A dealer for the people is a complete and utterly worthless statement. They completely ripped us out of $20,000 & are doing nothing to fix it. Terrible experience. read more

The process was easy and professional from beginning to end. This dealership is a breath of fresh air. Has very good deals and hard workers there for you. The whole team was amazing. Our sales consultant was Capri, and she was very sweet and knowledgeable about vehicles and made the progress easy. The sales manager we spoke with was Dustin, and he also had so much knowledge and helped us walk through the process. He was very straightforward and helped us find different options. After finding the perfect vehicle for our family, we got to sit in the vehicle with James, and he explained the features we had in our new 2023 Outlander and showed us how to program and work the features. He was knowledgeable, and he handed us a care package and a great information book. Tucker is the F&I specialist very patient and helped break down the paperwork when we signed it. Definitely recommend this dealership!! read more

Called and spoke to Lauren. She read me a bunch of rhetoric that anyone over 21 already knows. My complaint today is realizing this dealership made 5 hard inquiries on my credit report after salesman Michael Stryker claimed managers would not attempt to pursue a deal. Stryker proceeded to give me a bunch of hypotheticals. Utterly ridiculous. I don't appreciate dishonesty. . negative 5 stars. read more

So once upon a time I made the mistake of sharing my contact info w/ this dealership thru Facebook because I was curious about a promotion they were running. Big mistake. They called me everyday! EVERY day..sometimes twice a day until I had to say that I already purchased a vehicle. Never ever have I ever encountered a dealership calling potential customers non stop like telemarketers. I understand you have sales goals you have to meet but this is NOT the way to get customers to come in. In fact, this made me tell my friends and family to stay AWAY from this dealership. read more

Bought a 2022 outlander. There was a recall after a few months of ownership. I scheduled an appointment and mention the recall. The day of the apt. I showed up on time. After 30 mins. wait, the service staff came and told me they don't have the part. This is a major recall and they don't make sure they have the part before scheduling appointment? The dealership is located at Cedar Park.. about 45 mins drive for us and not to mention gas price is near $5/gallon. Very poor experience. read more

Went in thinking I was going to get a new car but found out the the adds on the Radio are just a bunch of bull shit so called credit amnesty and pay off thousands loan and then a nickel down A bunch of false advertisement at its best no stars for you read more

I'm totally disappointed in this location! We have purchased 4 Mitsubishi's 3 in San Antonio and this is the first time we bought one here. The buying experience was fine, a few hiccups as far as how long they took for paperwork but no big deal. We were told the day we bought the car to bring it in before 5k for our first service. We booked the appointment came in and the guys says "you don't need an oil change until 10k" and refuses service. 2 days later the service light went on in the car followed by the check engine light!!! We check the oil is maybe half way but we had to fill it and wait for it to reset. We schedule another appointment and the guy doesn't want to do it again! He insists that we have to wait until 10k. Wth?!?! My service lights are flashing every time I get in the car and the check engine on a 2022 brand new car. Just change the oil! read more

This place is a joke. My father went went two years with $2000 down and they wanted to put him in a older taurus. He said no. Stopped by the dodge dealership on the way home just to look. They ended up putting him in a new vehicle with no money down. Then i went a month ago bc my credit isnt that great and they advertise they help with credit and make fun of dealerships where people have to put 4 thousand down. Well, they wanted me to put 3800 down for a vehicle I didnt even like. Lol. What a bunch of lies they advertise. Make fun of dealerships in their ads and then do the same thing. Never go there. They also said if you don't qualify, they will buy you a steak dinner and that they have never had to buy one. Of coarse not of you just qualify everyone and make a high down payment. read more

Update: There was no miscommunication involved. I heard several of your deceptive ads on the radio and decided to come in. I fully explained my situation to the salesman. My credit was run not once, but three times. I was given a written offer that needed $3800 down. If I had $3800 to put down, I obviously wouldn't be going to a dealership that advertised "one dime down" and "credit amnesty." I explained my concern to the salesman and then again to the sales manager. They brushed it off without a care for my situation or concern, and let me walk out the door. read more

Purchased a used vehicle with an astronomical mark up (my bad for not being a male) the car I've owned for 2 weeks and I have been in the service department twice with the check engine light... read more

I wouldn't even give this place 1 star if it wasn't for the sales person that helped me being so polite. But they advertise credit amnesty and no down payment. And that's not the case at all. They tried to put me in a car with worse MPG than what I'm getting now. And they told me the deals they had going I didn't qualify for even tho Heather the lady that I had been conversing with for over a week told me I qualified for everything based off my online application. And assured me it wouldn't be a waste of time. Turned out to be lying to me. They said I needed a minimal of $5,000 to put down on a car in order to qualify. When one of their ads states "it's a crime to pay more than a dime as a down payment". NOT HAPPY!! Wasted my gas and my time. read more