Dr. Zrila was amazing and gave me so much anesthetic for my two cavity fillings, and showed me my teeth photos and explained what decay she was removing, and how it crossed from between my teeth through the enamel to the dentin. I requested the photos to be sent to my email per her request. She also recommended I use the Colgate PreviDent prescription Fluoride toothpaste for 6 months, and I was able to get 2 from their office. Every time she did any action, she would explain what she was doing and why, so I would understand. I felt very taken care of and informed on the whole procedure and how I can take better care of my teeth . A+! Need to floss better. Plaque/Bacteria buildup on the sides of my teeth. read more

InterDental Santa Monica - Colgate PreviDent - Cosmetic Dentists Near Me - Santa Monica, California

I had an amazing experience with Dr. Zrila at Interdental Santa Monica. She is honest, super friendly, and makes you feel completely comfortable the moment you sit in the chair. I came in for cavity fillings and a deep cleaning, and she explained everything clearly and never tried to upsell anything I didn't need. The procedure was painless, quick, and the results are great. The whole team is warm and professional, and the office is clean and modern. I highly recommend Dr. Zrila. read more

This is the kind of place that treats dentistry like fast food. They're trying to get you in and out as fast as possible.

These guys have always taken great care of me. Extremely professional and reliable and great friendly service. I had some issues with me teeth after the Covid lockdowns prevented care for a bit and they got me back on track. Thanks team! read more

I went to their practice . Peoples are very rude Avoid this practice at all costs they over charge you . I then called my insurance and they confirmed that they definitely over charged me . Be careful read more

These people show you huge pictures of all your teeth to scare you into getting loads of dental work you don't actually need. I lost count once the work I supposedly needed done surpassed 2K. I went to another dentist for a second opinion, and he said I needed no work done at all. BEWARE read more

I have been a patient of Dr. Zrila for three years. I highly recommend her. She is very attentive and kind. Her assistant Katrina is also friendly and always helps create a relaxing environment. read more

I sympathize with some other reviews here about being misled by this dental practice, and can say in my case that my billing was handled very poorly by InterDental. In December 2020 I went in for a cracked tooth and root canal but while I was being treated and in the chair they started telling me I could use some "Invisalign" straightening and other cosmetic treatments. Upselling. While I declined those procedures, as my teeth are pretty straight, I did agree to deep cleaning and preventative fillings. After my first visit, the receptionist seemed to go through a very thorough phone call with my dental insurance and broke it down to me exactly what the cost would be. The reception seemed to be aware of exactly what the insurance would pay. Each visit and procedure was broken down to what I would have to pay to cover that particular visit. So I paid them the several thousand dollars for my work over a period of 4 weeks as I came in for my several appointments for dental work. Each time I paid whatever balance they presented me in full before I left the office. Flash forward to now, 2021 and I have been sent a final notice for an additional $1500. They presented me with a $1500 bill in November 2020, almost 11 months after the procedures, that they say must be paid. I'm not blaming my insurance because InterDental had gone through exactly what my deductible was before my procedures. I was under the impression that everything was paid in full. It's impossible for me to determine how they added all these charges as they did not provide any procedure codes, just a handwritten note in red ink (photo enclosed) saying how much I owe. In my 50 years of life I've never encountered a doctor or dentist that has billed me almost a year later, after I had already paid at their office each visit as "paid in full". My dental insurance can't process or go over a handwritten note by InterDental without procedure codes. It's very unprofessional and $1500 isn't really enough to make a legal claim but still enough to ruin my credit if I don't pay it. Be very careful if you go to this place! The dentists are good but their billing practices and upselling seem a bit shady to me. read more

InterDental Santa Monica - InterDental's explanation of additional charges. Crossed out, red writing, late payment section used to add copay and no procedure codes. - Cosmetic Dentists Near Me - Santa Monica, California

I just walked out of INTERDENTAL in Santa Monica. It's the ONLY PLACE TO COME TO GET YOUR TEETH CLEANED AND CHECKED! They have the Most up to date equipment and are using the latest technology. They have an incredible staff of Drs, hygienists, dental assistants and front desk staff, including Dr. Zrilia, Danny and Katrina as well as the rest of the staff. Call for an appointment at 3108287429 read more

Staff is rude, but Dr. George is nice. He has the front office staff do his dirty work. They will do unnecessary dental work, or at least try to (this is Dr. G's army) and will insist upon and bully you into doing anything they can charge your insurance for. If you are told you have more than 4 cavities at a time, like MANY of the other 'older' yelp reviews have stated, believe that you MUST go seek a second opinion because you most likely do not have them. Happened to me and I have read it's happened to alot of other people too. Scroll past the fictitious 5 stars with their headshots. Do not let them drill into your mouth for no reason except that they want to make money. It is a business and the front office lets you know that. There are SO MANY other amazing dentists to go to who are honest and have nice front office people. They also pay for their negative reviews to be removed and have their friends write the 5 stars. Dr. O was the GOAT and had so much integrity. He NEVER upcharged and NEVER did fake work just to make money. RUN! read more

This outfit is the master of the upsell. They will try to sell you every kind of service and product beyond the service requested. They also deny insurance that they have contracted for and previously accepted. read more

I have been coming to this dentist office since 2019 - had a positive experience with most doctors and hygienists here. However, there were a lot upsells and the billing felt untransparent and inflated in general. As mentioned in other reviews, the estimate you receive is usually a handwritten number without any detailed breakdown. You will not see/know all the hidden costs or surcharges if you are not a sophisticated patient that is familiar with both the dental procedure and detailed coverage by item before you walk into the office. I still needed clarification after seeing my claim EOBs, with all the "unspecified" and seemingly questionable charges. The most bizarre experience with this office was that they switched me to a different doctor multiple times without my knowledge or consent. After that, a third doctor's name appeared on my insurance claim forms. Hard to think any of these were honest mistakes... Overall advices if you have limited options and want to work with this office: 1) call to verify exact procedures before appointment (get the procedure code) and check your coverage; 2) whenever a new procedure is recommended, take your time to review the estimate and ask questions; 3) if something feels off, seek second opinions. read more

I went to this office for years, and with a new dentist took over everything tanked. I was charged for things that I was not told about ahead of time. The amount that I had to pay changed the day I had the service, once by $6,000. I had gum surgery, and the endodontist used pig skin in my mouth without asking me. Lucky I'm not kosher. IMy head hurt me for three months. Know when I know has ever had any pain from gum surgery. I could barely work. Then, it was recommended to me that I have gum surgery right there where I already had had it. I caution anyone who goes or plans to. read more

Dr. Dalit Yadegaran saved one of my teeth without needing a root canal. So thankful and happy...:) I changed to this dentist, because my other dentist at office was booked. This is one of the most through and most advanced dentist office I've ever been to. They have the state of the art imagery computer screens and cameras to make sure you have the best dental experience to keep your mouth of teeth, gums etc. healthy for years to comes. I am impressed and the team is very friendly and professional. Jessica and Emely are wonderful also. read more

Very typical scam. Not a dentist you want to do if you care about yourself. My experience was like you read on yelp, maybe they clean up google reviews) actually was excited to go to this place cause 1st read google reviews about dr George Borchorushvily. But when I called to make an appointment (note I have insurance, one of the best dental insurance I could get in CA) the girl on the phone wasn't nice, but whatever we have our days. I made appointment soon cause I Tavel a lot and couldn't get main doctor so got someone else. Day before I was going I decided to read yelp and realized it's very negative especially with insurance patience. So when I came I said that I'm with insurance and will do whatever is covered. OMG, to my surprised I still paid out of pocket for DEEP CLEANING, which by the way was the WORST CLEANING I ever had, it wasn't even near being regular it was express that should be around $20... max. I mean I have to redo cleaning this week, but I paid additionally $140 for "DEEP CLEANING". Once I left I felt like I was scammed, due to feeling my teeth being dirty( well I had to run cause was over 2hrs appointment after diagnostic, but i said i will call about prices. So I did in 3 hrs. Well I was giving prices(I'm on HMO insurance plan, with means I have copay based on procedure) like my feeling cost from $30-$40 per one but based on their quote it was $140x crown $810 but my plan is $300. When they quoted me I asked them for dental codes, I put it in my insurance to find out price and prices was like I said before. I emailed them back with screen shots) and guess what I NECER HEARD FROM THEM. I get it many people will believe anything they say, like I did with " deep" cleaning. But guys work in medicine, your priority should be patients. You just want money. Very sad. Was very excited my horrible experience. And if they treat patients with insurance like that everyone else is just money to them, not like insurance don't pay them enough. Just don't go to drs who only cares for money. If anyone need a proof, have their quote with codes and my copay numbers based on codes Update! They are crazy! Don't trust a word from this clinic. I just got bill from my insurance for $440 that I need to pay to "provider" . To make it clear I went for 1st visit scans and cleaning( that they already charged me extra and did a terrible job, that in Russia in free clinic was done much better, def not American standard) and I said clear to reception and doctor that I will only do whatever it covered by my insurance, NOTHING ELSE. And guess what they charged me extra they are ridicules and can't be trusted. I hate when you get to doctors who are scammers and don't care about patience. NEVER GO THERE, they will try to take advantage of you for bad services. read more

Tl;dr: They didn't clean my teeth and they tried to get me to do way more dentistry than I needed. More: I was just telling my friend what a bad experience I had here 2.5 years ago and realized I should have posted on Yelp as well since I see that the practicing DDS is still with the office and others are still reporting the same issues. I scheduled what I thought was a routine dental appt. When I got there they immediately did x-rays and the dentist came in and said I had 6 cavities I needed to address. I was a bit taken aback bc my prior appt with a different dentist had been within that year and I only had one or two caries they were "watching." I asked to just continue with the cleaning while I figured out what to do and she said that I wasn't scheduled for a cleaning, just the x-Ray, and if I wanted to get my teeth cleaned I would need to come back. Before and since I have NEVER scheduled a routine dentist visit that didn't include a cleaning. I didn't even know that was a thing. At the time I had HMO dental and I always wondered if they were over treating me to increase their billing rates. Either way.... do not bring your teeth here Fast forward to finding a new provider: my new dentist said I had one cavity to address and another one I could fill or watch. She cleaned my teeth at the same time she did my x-rays too. I'm also noticing that many of the others writing negative Yelp reviews work in healthcare (as do I)-- and I definitely wonder how many people walked out wondering if they were scammed or not because they didn't have the experience to smell a rat. read more

I really recommend just calling this office and not using ZocDoc or any outside services to book an appointment. I reserved an appointment with them because they seemed fine and took my insurance (according to their listing on ZocDoc). When I called into the office, they confirmed that they took my insurance but said the ZocDoc schedule was not up-to-date, and I had to rebook for much later -- they have a much more limited availability than what appears on that site. Then the next day I got another call and they actually don't take my insurance at all. Even though their listing only comes up in a search for places that take my insurance, and they confirmed yesterday they do, in fact they don't. They haven't updated their listing. Administration is really important in medicine, and this place doesn't really have it together. Spent two days to get precisely nowhere, will be looking elsewhere now. read more

Con Artists!!!! Visited interdental last year and was told I needed a plethora of work, some of which I knew I actually did need, but much of which turned out to be a complete lie!!! I was told I would need all my wisdom teeth removed because "they had large bad cavities" visited another dentist whom told me about the work I knew I needed (crowns, and cleaning's) and not one word about my wisdom teeth!!!! They were just trying to get money out of me!!! they were trying to make me have A COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY DENTAL SURGERY!!!!! A very very expensive one at that!!! And the receptionist/ biller woman is incredibly mean!!!! The hygienist who was the only nice person in the office, told me if my temp Filling fell out after I had received their cleaning that to come back and they'd replace it for me, it got mentioned in front of the woman I fore-mentioned and she replies "oh no, we won't replace it. What if you don't get the work done and just want the filling?" I was shocked, I said well what am I to do if it does fall out until I come back to get the work done, she says, go to cvs they have those tooth kits" with no care at all. It was incredibly rude when I had just spent 600 dollars on a deep cleaning!!! Will never ever return! Nothing they say can be trusted and patients are clearly dollar signs to them, judging from their cancellation policy alone, cancel 48hrs ahead of time or get charged 250!!!! Don't say I didn't warn you. Please run far, and fast. Run forest, run. read more

I had such a great experience at Interdental! As someone who typically hates going to see the dentist, my first visit with Interdental was extremely pleasant. From the friendly staff to the cleanliness and new equipment, I felt like this establishment really had it together. I had a chance to meet Dr. Dalit, and she and her staff made me feel comfortable from the moment I walked in. Dr. Dalit was so easy to talk to and walked me through every step of my exam which I really appreciated. All in all this was definitely a 5 star experience and I would highly recommend Dr. Dalit to anyone looking for a new dentist! read more

Extremely predatory behavior by clinicians in this office. I stated clearly throughout my visit I wanted a routine cleaning and did not want to do any procedures that weren't covered by my insurance. I was still continually upsold on unnecessary procedures for which I did not meet the clinical guidelines (I am an epidemiologist who studies treatment effectiveness). Despite my strong words concerning procedure billing, my insurance received a $800 bill for my hour long routine teeth cleaning. I was addition al bills totaling a $100 between my insurance and the office. For reference, the median price for routine cleaning WITHOUT INSURANCE in LA is a $120. This was an unbelievably poor dental experience. I would caution others away from this office. They seem to be out for your cash and will not provide services in the best interest of your health. read more

This place is a complete SCAM!!! No one at age 28 needs 10 route canals with a bill of 10k. They also took pictures and posted on their instagram account of her without her knowledge. Mom goes her and they charge 175 for cleaning even if they don't clean the teeth. She got a second consult at a different place and they told her she is fine. It's places like this that take greed to a whole new level. If BBB wasn't a joke I would report this place read more

Great atmosphere, professional employees with amazing energy and enthusiasm. Dr. George did an outstanding job on my teeth. Very happy with the results, highly recommended to anyone searching for a reliable dentist. read more

0 stars if I could! The staff here is predatory. Insurance services are not covered and they upsell you to get any basic services done. I don't understand why this place has such a high rating. The dentist Dr. Bovilli was great. He recommended I get a filling for a small cavity I had. There are two types available amalgam or silver. From what he told me, silver would've been fine. I agreed and he then sent me to the front desk. Here's the kicker. These front desk ladies are trappy and predator af. Silver is covered by insurance but amalgam is not (~$200/tooth). So, the front desk said that if I paid right now I could get amalgam but if not, I'd have to wait a couple months (possibly a year) to get a silver filling. At the time of writing this review, I'm currently 8 months into waiting, have called and again they iterated that if I paid I could get my cavity filled, if not keep waiting... Why even offer a service you can't deliver on? Just because someone doesn't have the extra cash to throw does that mean they should be treated as second class citizens?? read more

Dr Sheily is a ROCKSTAR! I have been going to her for a while now and she is honestly the best! She will have the most honest and truthful medical diagnosis for you. If you need a dentist on the west side, she is the one!!!! What I love most is that she always explains in great detail what you need to do for your condition and what treatment you need. She always takes time with me and my husband, answering our questions. I 100% trust her medical opinion. Her hand is very light and I never feel any discomfort. She is always the happiest there and always has a huge smile on her face! I'm sure it lights up a lot of patients day!!! Expect her to crack jokes and make you laugh anytime! She is the dentist you need and trust! Go to her without a doubt! read more

InterDental Santa Monica - Dr Sheiley and me at the reception area at Interdental - Cosmetic Dentists Near Me - Santa Monica, California

George is the best dentist in the world. Very experienced, very good, and the most painless dentist ive ever been too. Before coming to him i hated going to the dentist and now i look forward to it. Great staff and atmosphere and always a great experience and i promise youll agree once you go there, trust me. read more

First of all, I get the sense this is a family run business where they threw their 14 year old kid on the phone and she doesn't wanna be working the phones and has better things to do. Picture that. Now... With that opening, ladies and gentlemen, here goes my review. New patient. Booked a virtual appointment. Which never happened. I didn't have a good prequel experience, so full confession, yeah I bailed. 1. Made an appointment for a virtual consultation. Mybad. 2. They said they will send a Google Meet link a few minutes before the appointment. Their exact words: "We will send you an invitation via gmail closer to the appointment time. Once you receive the invitation, you accept it and the doctor will be able to connect." Mind you we are in the year of our Lord 2021. You know we can send calendar links in ADVANCE now, right? With the video link in them. Like you don't have to "wait" for the day of expecting the person to just sit and stare at their computer screen to send link, right? We have been in the "modern" age of digital calendars for awhile now (that sends the appointment link with a Google Meet link in advance), there's even YouTube videos about this. Just saying. Hellooo. 3. So, of course appointment day and time comes and no link. It's past the appointment time. No link. Nada, Zip, Zero. 4. I get a call, oh we sent you a link. Again, we are in 2021, these are modern times here. Didn't get a link. Waited for it.... In front of my computer. Like DOH. When I did get the link, I see they copy/pasted into an email (that was someone's *best* thinking here). Keep reading... THEN, finally get a couple links (bunch o' links), it's like link jackpot. Refresher: Go back to point 2 and re-read again that we really didn't have to do this in realtime like, DOH. BUT, since I had some time to wait, I had some time to think. I decided you know, these people can't send a link right, or even set up a Google Calendar Meet in advance (again YouTube is your friend). This is pretty basic. How will they handle my mouth? Ok, I got a smart mouth, but just saying. So I decided to follow that gut instinct and cancel the appointment. I'm going somewhere else where we can be in the glorious "modern" digital age together. Where the dentist office I go to uses "digital" Calendars with links and you "accept" the calendar invite in advance and you don't have to sit in front of your computer because their system is archaic. TIP FOR THE OWNERS: InterDental needs to get InterModern. read more

Predatory!!! This place loves to try to up sell you on anything and everything. They tried selling me and my husband, 2 completely different appointments on different weeks, on the same things without asking, instead just adding it to our tabs-- the "prescription mouthwash and fluoride coating". Luckily we both asked, "wait is that extra money?" So we declined it. Also during my husbands check-in, they said the waiting list to get a cavity filled is for some list to reach 10 people and that there were 4 already on the list. THENNNN when he returned the following week for his cleaning, someone else said, "There's no one on the list and there hasn't been anyone for 2 years!" Sooo you're saying he can't get a filling for 2 years. Done and never again! Shady ass reception women and makes me sad that women to women, they're just desperate to make a sale. First and last visit to this office. read more

Profiteers. I came in for a checkup/cleaning, I have no major problems, in fact, I have excellent oral hygiene. This dentist (female, forgot her name), told me I needed a cleaning that involved under-the-gum antiseptic irrigation (billing code: D4921). This is not covered by most insurances, and I was quoted $250 out of pocket. The issue is, I said no to this non-essential recommendation for treatment, and this dentist REFUSED to do a cleaning for me without this unnecessary add-on. I asked several of my Oromaxillofacial/DDS friends if this was needed (I am myself a doctor), and they all resoundly said NO. I took my xrays and found another dentist. Very happy that I did. There is a similar review on this business by Shaz P. It seems we are both posting to prevent others from making the mistake of being evaluated here. read more

worst dena office I have ever been to; incredibly rude staff, and the dentist tried to make me do deep cleaning when I didn't need to; they treat you like dirt if you aren't there to do major works on your teeth. when it was Dr. Oswald's office it was never this horrible. read more

The last 2 visits I had were scams. Today was the worst and my son and I won't be returning. Outside of the fact that I was only scheduled for a cleaning, and they insisted on X-rays, an exam, and some random gum treatment, the front desk lady was extremely rude when I questioned why they "needed" to do all that today when I only asked for a cleaning. She claimed I signed up to have the gum treatment every time a few visits back and when I pointed out that they should actually discuss with patients the care they are about to receive, she told me it's not my fault for not remembering. Umm it's actually a care giver's job to do exactly that and is standard in any other type of medical practice. She the. insisted I fill out a form stating I was going against the doctor's order to not have the gum treatment next time. There will be no next time. Bullying patients into procedures they don't need just because we have good insurance is the #1 dental scam out there, google it. It's a shame because they were actually great with my son in the past but things have gone down hill and we already found a new dentist. Also: they have cancelled on me last minute a few times after I moved things around to accommodate my appointments here. read more

Dentists operate like businesses, and their main priority is to maximize profit, and they do not prioritize patient care over that. Recommendations may not be in the best interest of patients. Ask what treatments will cost up front before agreeing. I also recommend contacting your insurance provider and verifying what they will and won't cover for before accepting what you may be told here. If you are told that your insurance won't cover and you are asked to pay out of pocket, you should check that with your insurer. Get second opinions about treatments they recommend. Find out if you really do need what they say. And if you know you really need something taken care of insist that this is the exact treatment that is provided. read more

Charged 145$ for routine cleaning after insurance. Tried to sell every single service they could, overall they do a good job but are very money hungry. read more

I went in for a simple extraction. I've had many. Usually 125 or more. But now I have Delta Care. Extractions are 14 to 125 depending. After a while the asst came in and said the cost would be 355. Is there an honest dentist in L.A. Someone please tell me. read more

They have horrible staffing issues. Appointments get cancelled on you frequently. So far, I have had two appointments get cancelled on me with the hygienist for a dental cleaning. The first time was because a hygienist was no longer available (even though I had an appointment). That was the entire reason. Sounds to me like the hygienist quit and they had to cancel appointments. Second time was because their ZocDoc page is not up to date; I booked an appointment through ZocDoc, and I received a call stating that the hygienist would not be available for another two months. What's the point of ZocDoc then? Just take it down if it's not even up to date. It's just a nice marketing gimmick for them. This is ridiculous! Remember, it's okay for them to cancel on you, but InterDental will charge you if you cancel your appointment. They also lost my Invisalign molds. I went through the long process of getting my molds done, and I was told I would get a call back when the molds were ready and come back in to get a consultation. I never received a follow-up phone call. Months passed as I had forgotten about the molds. I remembered during one of my next visits, and they said they had to redo them again... I paid about $200 for these idiots just to lose my molds, and then they wanted another $200. Absurd. Go somewhere else. Nothing but a bunch of crooks here. read more

The office staff is always very rude and disrespectful. I've had so many issues with their staff, it's just not even worth it to stay with them. Go somewhere you will be respected. read more

I have been seeing DDS George for many years, since he purchased Inter Dental from DDS Oswell. He takes great care of my teeth and gums and my wife sees him also. Recently I had a rear molar tooth removed that got infected. It was a painful infection but DDS George removed the tooth and infection and my gums were stiched. Immediately the pain went away and in a few months I plan on having DDS George perform an implant to fill the space. I recommend DDS George to everyone. Happy Smile Happy Life!!!! Steven Schwartz read more

Found their services less than satisfactory when dealing with my insurance and now out of pocket fees could not do right by me g gave them insurance info but claimed did not could not do right by me claimed could not bill insurance and their practice misleads you when comes to billing Sorry ever went to them read more

Our whole family goes to this dentist. Fujon is the best dental hygienist in SM. So quick and gentle. My husband has really sensitive teeth and hates getting them cleaned...but not anymore since Fujon. Covid precautions are strict, we have felt completely comfortable to attend during the pandemic. read more

My husband had an emergency appointment Saturday. Going to the dentist is never pleasant but he was treated with kindness. We have good Ppo insurance and don't mind spending in our teeth so unlike other reviews I feel he was taken care of. no gimmicks. painless. very straight forward. staff was friendly, dentist had good chair-side manners. I'll be coming back to my routing cleaning and exam. read more

Avoid Dentist George Bochorishvili from InterDental. They are scammers and extremely predatory. In April 2023 I made an appointment with Dr. Bochorishvili for a regular cleaning, as he was listed as provider by my HMO Insurance. When I arrived, right away they started pushing a "special cleaning" for $420.00 which was not covered by my insurance. I refused it twice because they kept on pushing it. After they took extensive x-rays, which I think is normal practice when you are a new patient, Dr. Bochorishvili came in and said I needed to have all my crowns replaced (6) as well as my bridge. After his examination, at the desk I was presented with the estimate for all these procedures: $1,750 for each crown X 6, $4,500 for a new Bridge, $650 for a Mouth Guard, and $165 for each Comp X2, for a total amount of $15,980.00!!!! I was told by the desk clerk that this amount was my sole responsibility. No special pricing or discounts from my insurance. Also they were referring me to their endodontist who was not in my network, and probably a "friend" of Dr. B. They told me this endodontist was the only one they knew and recommended. I could not believe this dentist and his practice were so Predatory. I left and went to a different dentist for a second opinion. The new dentist confirmed that I definitely did not need any crown replacements nor a new bridge. The only thing that needed attention was a retreatment of a previous root canal. He referred me to an in-network endodontist. I wish now that I had checked the reviews in Yelp for Dr. Bochorishvili and his practice InterDental before I went to see him. Judging from my experience with this practice, I am not surprised that about 30% of all the reviews in Yelp are basically negative!!! Do yourself a favor and avoid this dentist and his practice at all cost. They are profiteers, scammers and predatory. read more