We'd been wanting to try Red Hub for a while after hearing good things and seeing the good reviews, but the time never came until this pandemic. We have been wanting to support local businesses but also are really into the family meals people are offering so figured bbq was a good option for a weekend meal. The pulled pork was succulent and delicious, savory and slightly sweet. The creamy coleslaw for topping the pork sammies was good, classic and not too sweet like some people make slaw. The house made chips are excellent, they were hot and fresh and well seasoned. We got the macaroni as our other side and it was tasty. We had plenty leftovers (enough for a second meal for our family of 3), didn't even touch the chicken tenders included the first time. The amount of food provided and the extra included touches, like pickles and sauces, make this family meal an excellent deal when looking at some other family meals offered around town. Thanks Red Hub! Y'all should get in on this action. read more

Red Hub Food Co - BBQ to go, (except we added our own green beans) - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

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We had an amazing experience with Red Hub Catering. They provided our cocktail hour food, reception buffet, cutting cake, bartending service, and Sunday brunch. The food and service were impeccable. For bartending service, Red Hub provided the bar set up and mixers, but allowed us to provide our own alcohol which is uncommon among catering vendors. Red Hub generated a custom menu for our reception that consisted of a nacho bar for cocktail hour followed by a taco buffet for dinner. They also baked a beautiful cutting cake and delivered brunch to the lodge we were at the following morning for everyone to enjoy. Overall an incredible vendor who expertly provided us multiple wedding services. read more

Walked all the way there and they only do catering!! A lot of wasted effort and time. read more

Maybe we went there on an off day or because we got takeout it was not prepared as well as if we ate in the restaurant, but our food was not very good. The pulled pork and pulled chicken were dry and barely 4 ounces in the same size to-go container than the sides came in. It was not satisfying for an entree portion. The platter came with only two bite-sized hushpuppies. The fried potato chips had almost no flavoring or salt on them, and the cole slaw was just shredded cabbage and mayonnaise. There was no salt, pepper, vinegar, herbs, nothing but mayonnaise. The platter was $14 which is pretty comparable to other BBQ places in the city, but was not a lot of food in total. read more

Solid cville BBQ. Tried the bbq sundae both as is and with the coleslaw on the side- definitely how I will be ordering it from now on. So much food. I also love the homemade chips! read more

Red Hub Food Co - BBQ sundae to go - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

This spot is GREAT for a quick and easy, down-home, comfort food! I was pleasantly surprised not only by the quality and authenticity of this southern spot but also the quickness and efficiency! The portions are a pretty decent size (not too small or too large). I ordered the collard greens which were prepared with pork, as well as the hand breaded tenders! The tenders were seasoned perfectly and were also joint, moist, and tender! I requested ranch dipping as my sauce and even the ranch tasted authentic and delicious! I look forward to ordering from here again soon and hopefully as a dine-in experience! read more

Red Hub Food Co - Collard Greens - contains meat - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

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This was my 3rd stop in my September Fried Chicken Crawl 2k20! 9.6.2020 l #eatlocalcville l September Chicken Crawl 2k20 - Be sure to check out my chicken crawl announcement post to see more information on the criteria I'm using! 3rd stop: Red Hub. Anyone who lives near the Corner/Wertland area has most likely heard of Red Hub. Located on 10th St, next to the Wertland St traffic light, it's pretty easy to find and pretty easy to walk to. I went with friends with each person getting a tray. Most got the fried chicken tray with one getting the wing platter. The chicken trays come with bbq sauce, 2 hush puppies, housemade chips, and a side. Mac'n'cheese was the choice of many, while someone got succotash! Crunch - Crunch, crunch, crunch was the sound resonating from our table as everyone started digging in. The breading wasn't too thick! Flavor- Flavor was amazing! Definitely unique in flavor and well seasoned! Not too salty. I think they used the same flavoring on the chips. Succulence - Well cooked, definitely juicy~ Heartburn - Was able to eat without issues! Ended up eating majority of the chicken in one sitting haha Tasted okay cold. The breading was no longer crunchy, but the flavor was still good. Nothing too spectacular as a cold dish, so def recommend finishing the chicken when you get a tray! Sides - Who doesn't love hush puppies? Such a pleasant surprise when I saw them in the tray. My only qualm was why not add more~~ In terms of the chips, it was good, but the added seasoning was definitely a lot since it was relatively packed on... Wouldn't be opposed if there was an option to substitute the chips with their hush puppies! Their mac'n'cheese was good! They used thicker cavatappi noodles, as opposed to stereotypical macaroni. This was a welcomed change, as the cheese collected in the crevices, creating a pleasant surprise in each bite. The succotash was definitely the most unique option on their menu, at least for me. First time trying it, but it's vegetables cooked in butter - what's not to appreciate! read more

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I made my way here with the anticipation that only a BBQ loving southerner could. I'm in town for work and immediately sought out the best bbq spots and found this one near my hotel. Despite mixed reviews I opted to test it myself and form my own opinion. 1. SERVICE: was rather slow due to waiting almost 5 minutes for the lady to come from the far rear of the building, possibly outside, and reach the counter to take my order. 2. ATMOSPHERE: the decor reminds of a small pack house or smoke house used in the south. Nice. The dining area is small and quaint but sufficient due to there also being outside seating. I noticed that the utensils placed in the baskets that were hung next to my table were very dusty. No problem though, I helped myself to a fresh set at the counter. 3. FOOD: I ordered the brisket and pulled chicken combo plate, with baked beans, complimentary cole slaw, hush puppies and seasoned chips. Brisket was rather dry and rubbery. So was my pulled chicken. Due to the fact that I arrived a noon, I suspect I received warmed leftovers from the previous day. No way could you have dried out both your brisket and chicken this early. The chicken was also flavorless and needed much sauce to revive it. The sauces were spicy the way I like, but the flavor profile just didn't round out. I purposely got a cup of each sauce to try and opted for the Lexington duce for my chicken. The others were either too peppery or just not good. The chips were the best thing on the plate. The baked beans were decent and the hush puppies were severely overcooked. All in all, I gave this place an honest try. They have the potential, but just didn't deliver a great experience. And for $17, I definitely didn't get my money's worth. On to the next spot. read more

Red Hub Food Co - Brisket and pulled chicken combo plate. Baked beans, chips and hush puppies - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

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Decent barbecue. We ordered a wide selection of the menu as takeout from Red Hub Food Co on a weekend. I sampled the hushpuppies, pulled pork, hot bourbon sauce, Red Hub sauce, house chips, coleslaw, and potato salad. I liked the hushpuppies and both of the sauces. The bourbon sauce could have been a little spicier for me, but it had a pleasant splash of heat. The chips were about as good as can be. I found the pulled pork to be a bit dry, but that wasn't a huge issue for me since pulled pork is a mere vehicle for the sauce. The potato salad and coleslaw were both quite bland and not worth the calories. Overall, I think Red Hub Food Co has pretty decent food. read more

In Charlottesville and looking for a good lunch spot, not too expensive and preferably someplace we had not been. This place popped up and we are glad it did!! Nothing fancy here, but very comfortable. Typical menu for a BBQ type restaurant. We got Pulled Pork Platter and Pulled Chicken platter with hush puppies and Mac cheese as our sides. They had several sauces to choose from, but not that their meat needed any! It was absolutely delicious. The Mac-n-cheese was incredible, so soft and cheesy. Hush puppies were fried to perfection. Pricing was incredibly reasonable (inexpensive). Service was friendly. Very small dining room with limited parking. We went about 2pm, so not busy. Enjoy! read more

Red Hub Food Co - Pulled Pork and Pulled Chicken platter - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

Yelp told me this place would be open until 7:30pm but at 6 or thereabouts the lights were out and my dream of barbecue were dashed.

One and done. We tried Red Hub on a Sunday. The brisket was gray, watery and flavorless. As though it was reheated in a hot pot of meat juice. It was nothing like what some of the pictures show in the other reviews. The pulled chicken was dried out and needed a ton of sauce. The cheese grits were cold. The hush puppies were also cold. The only items that were of any goodness were the pickles and the rustic chips. A dead giveaway that this place is a dud, was there was no aroma of a smoker. Most bbq joints have that wonderful aroma of smoked meats. This place had no such scent. read more

Red Hub Food Co - Serving of pulled chicken, no sauce - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

Solid BBQ for the area, Red Hub Food Co. is a solid lunch spot in Charlottesville serving all of your favorites at competitive prices. I'm actually relieved I don't live/work anywhere near Charlottesville (it's a long commute from Philadelphia) just so I don't gain a hundred pounds going to Red Hub Food Co. Besides their well-regarded catering (which seems to be the bulk of their business), the lunch counter in the heart of Charlottesville serves a really nice variety of BBQ favorites at very reasonable prices. Seating is limited in the small space, with a few tables and a wall table inside a one or two tables outside, parking can also be a bit of challenge but if you come early you will be able to find some along the side of the building. My fiancee and I split the Pulled Pork Platter ($10), served with hush puppies, chips and a side of mac & cheese (be sure to check-in on yelp for a free blueberry lemonade). Split being the key word there, as the platter is more than enough for two people. You get a broad selection of BBQ sauces to try at the table, and odds are you will do what I did and just keep trying them all until you finish that juicy pulled pork. The Mac & Cheese was gooey and delectable, hush puppies fried and moist, and the homemade chips also did not disappoint. Is Red Hub Food Co. the best BBQ in Charlottesville? No, but it's certainly near the top, serving reliable BBQ favorites at a price and serving size that's tough to beat. read more

Red Hub Food Co - Pulled Pork Platter ($10), served with hush puppies, chips and a side of mac & cheese - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

We ordered to go for lunch today. The dining area where we waited was small, and seemed clean (though they have a huge fly problem). The food took a little longer to come out than expected, but we didn't wait too long. Service was friendly and the food was tasty. I had cheese grits (the highlight of the meal), macaroni, house potato chips, and a lemonade. The lemonade was by far the worst thing I tried, as it looked and tasted like yellow Gatorade. Otherwise, I really enjoyed my meal! read more

This tiny little hole in the wall packs a big tasty punch! Some of the best brisket and BBQ we've ever eaten (and we've had a lot, all over the country). Service was phenomenal. And we even bought a bottle of sauce to go. The parking area is very small, but there are businesses around that will let you park there and walk a few feet to get there. We will definitely be back next time we're in town! read more

Red Hub catered our wedding and we couldn't be happier with the service and food! Highly recommend - really tasty food and highly affordable for the quality of food and service. read more

So I have tried several BBQ places in Charlottesville and I have been disappointed at every ONE for one reason or another! Then I tried Red Hub food co. I wished I had tried sooner. Absolutely delicious! Macaroni and cheese is definitely homemade, cheesy, flavorful not dry and the noodles are not over cooked. The fried chicken wings; perfectly flavored, (not too salty) just enough crunch, without being too greasy. The same with the hush puppies: hush puppies are really big and have wonderful breading and great crunch very delicious! The baked beans are yummy the coleslaw is creamy without being too full of mayonnaise, very fresh and tasty! I like their chips, not necessarily my style but they are quite good. So I tried bites of: the pulled pork the brisket and the pulled chicken with the tangy barbecue sauce on all three! I will just sum it up with saying they are all absolutely scrumptious. I think the pulled pork and chicken win my vote as being number one! I did like the beef brisket and I love the fact that it's not dry, but also not oily.... it just wasn't extremely flavorful in my opinion, but if you use sauce that solves the issue! The location is wonderful, the ambience is great and I definitely am coming back for some more food! Great BBQ BANG for my BUCK!!! read more

Found this place on Google. Pictures looked yummy so I decided to give it a try. I ordered the combination Platter with 2 ribs and pulled chicken with mac n cheese. Let's start with customer service. Definitely a mom and pop place. Sitting is inside or outside. Customer service was okay. As a first timer it seems like your expected to know how the resturant operates for example all of your sauce and Cole slaw is self serve. The mac n cheese was okay nothing too special. Rib sauce was delicious! Best thing on the platter for sure. The pulled chicken was too dry. Once I added the sauce it was alot better but still dry. The chips that come with the Platter are really good ! I could eat those all day. Overall I gave it 3 stars because I had higher expectations on taste and friendliness. read more

Wonderful BBQ meal for four! We got four pieces of fried chicken (which I thought was a little greasy...but...it's my hubs new favorite fried chicken so I didn't want to deter anyone), Mac n' cheese (little dry from being "to go"), two different slaws and two sauces, pulled pork & two pieces of chocolate pecan pie. The pie wasn't my favorite...but... I have a secret now not so secret obsession with the pecan pie at Wegmans! Ha! All of the food was excellent and we'll definitely be ordering again. read more

Abhorrent, unprofessional behavior. They "forget" items you order all the time, so check if you pick up from them. They also don't mind cancelling a to-go order at the absolute last minute, even if you placed the order an hour and a half ago. Their food ain't all that, especially when their nasty attitude and way of operating get in the way. All of their sauces also taste like sweet baby Ray's and A1 watered down to varying degrees. Save yourself the trouble. Go to the superior Vision BBQ instead. read more

Very good BBQ joint off 10 St. Parking lot is virtually non-existent so you'll basically park at the apartment complex's lot which is right next door. Guy working in the store said that we wouldn't get towed so we assumed it was safe to park there. There's limited seating inside and a few tables to sit at outside (which I wasn't about to do in boiling hot summer Cville weather) Ordered the Pulled Pork platter ($10) and the Brisket & BBQ platter ($12) which came with beef brisket and pulled pork. We asked for a bun for both platters. Both platters were quite delicious! The four sauces Red Hub offered were ranked from mild to hot with one "sweet" Red Hub sauce. The pulled pork tasted amazing and was definitely boosted with the mild sauce that I tried. The pulled pork meat was quite juicy and not at all dry. The beef brisket was also very tasty, though a tiny bit chewy, which isn't that unexpected since it was very fatty. The bun was toasted perfectly so it was just the right amount of softness to complement the meat. Each platter came with chips, a container of slaw, and two hush-puppies. As sides, my platter had baked beans, and the brisket platter had green beans. I liked the chips the most out of the platter sides because they were perfectly crispy with just the right amount of crunch. I believe the chips had some sort of creole seasoning, but I could be wrong on that; I just can't pinpoint the precise seasoning on the chips. Whatever it was, it was ON POINT. The slaw, on the other hand, had an odd sort of bbq tangy taste to it which might have been good as a concept, but left the slaw tasting really weirdly acidic. It was probably due to an excess in vinegar. Not my thing at all. The two hush-puppies also tasted really good with the honey dipping sauce, though I would have liked more than two. My baked beans tasted really awesome and exactly how any good baked beans would have tasted with a nice BBQ taste. The green bean side also tasted really good because it also had an unusual twist of having bacon bits mixed within it. Fair warning if you don't like bacon bits in your green beans but I mean, who wouldn't? My only criticism of the Red Hub platters would be that the sandwiches seemed -really- greasy. Like unusually greasy and dripping with oil. I totally get that it's the nature of bbq/soul food to have a lot of fat in it, but these sandwiches were dripping all over the place which is something I haven't seen at Ace or Belmont. All in all, however, I really loved the food at Red Hub and you get a LOT in your platter for the price you pay! Would definitely recommend! read more

Red Hub Food Co - Brisket & BBQ Platter - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

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We had Red Hub food co caterer my wedding they were so professional and made a very stressful day so much more at ease for me. From the food being amazing to the service being fantastic. They had my guest asking for more all day and even as they left. They made sure my husband and I were not left hungry at our own wedding and made everything feel so nice. read more

Despite a strong fondness for smoked meats of all kinds, I'd never had the inclination to check out Red Hub. Its odd location and lukewarm reviews kept me at bay. A recent drive past the storefront, however, enticed me with a sign advertising a "Hungry Hoo" platter of brisket, pulled pork, ribs, hush puppies, chips, and a side (!) for 13.99 with a student ID. Service at the lunch counter was friendly and the quantity of food was quite fair. None of the meats really impressed the palate. All had the appropriate textures (brisket was moist, pork was tender, ribs were meaty) but lacked the smoky punch I associate with quality 'que. The bland, oddly flavored sauces didn't help elevate the meats either, and instead detracted from the overall experience. My side, mac and cheese, tasted standard; it merited neither complaints nor compliments. I did appreciate the considerable amount of homemade, thick cut potato chips that accompanied the meal as well as the crisp, fluffy hush puppies. Red Hub's barbecue may be reasonably priced, but the lack of smoky flavor, inconvenient location, and otherwise boringness of the other dishes will keep me from returning. read more

I took my father to Red Hub today as a Father's Day present for lunch. When we walked in we were both having difficulty deciding ... everything they list is the type of food that my father adores! He ordered the hush puppies to start off with and they dropped in the corn meal mixture before we were done ordering. They were served with a little maple syrupy dip kind of thing that really gave them a chicken and waffles kind of feel. We both ordered a pulled pork sandwich (after the cashier recommended the brisket or the pulled pork). It comes with seasoned fresh homemade potato chips ... delicious. The slaw was on the side, but easily added to the sandwich, though it was a small amount. I got two sauces, the "Red Hub Red" and the "Carolina Mustard" ... both were good and I'm looking forward to trying the New Orleans bourbon sauce next time I come by. read more

Red Hub Food Co - Pulled Pork sandwich, homemade potato chips, and fresh-made hushpuppies with maple syrup dipping sauce at an outdoor table! - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

I really love Red Hub, I think their space is really cool and the entire experience feels very homey. The meats are always tender and flavorful, even without loads of bbq sauce, and the sundae is a lot of fun! I like having everything important in there. Try the fried chicken too, the breading had a lot of flavor. If they have pie, GET A SLICE, they're all homemade that morning if they're there. The chips are also thick and real, must get them as a side. read more

Red Hub Food Co - Bbq sundae! - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

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Customer service for walk in is extremely 'meh.' That said, this definitely is the best bbq in Charlottesville. I'll be coming back, just in a takeout fashion. Keeping cooking the delicious food, and I'll keep returning. read more

Absolutely fantastic food. Even the chicken fingers were great. The BBQ & brisket platter is a great deal and a way to try two different styles. read more

Red Hub Food Co - Limited seating area but quaint spot - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

Family ordered a family meat platter and wow!!! It was so delicious. The meat eaters ate for dinner and then again for the next 2 days. And the mac n' cheese was SO GOOD! Everything included beat expectations. Thanks to the team who made such awesome food - the group was super happy and full, multiple times over. read more

When you're in the south you want good BBQ. I mean that good meat that's dripping with oil and other animal juices. The last two times i've gone to Red Hub I've had less than drippy BBQ. The pulled pork sandwiches - Average. Of course it was a bland, definitely was asking for sauce to be used. With any sauce, it turned into a solid sandwich. But the reason I say average is because I want a pulled pork sandwich to be nasty, dripping in that cooked pig fat. This was so boring bro. like if jeb bush was a pulled pork sandwich, this would be it. Pulled chicken - Dry but wet. Wet as in watery which was just disgusting. The bread was soaked within seconds. You could tell it wasn't really pulled chicken. The chicken itself was so dry. disappointing. Hush puppies - fantastic. thats all I gotta say, only got 2 of em though. Mac and cheese - tasted like dining hall mac and cheese. under cheesed and just wasn't greasy. this was like mac and cheese for vegans or people who are counting calories. average at best. Overall, i'm disappointed because we as a collective society want southern BBQ. Red spot doesn't deliver good souther BBQ. If you want something even close, go to Mission BBQ which is a chain restaurant. Sad to say that a chain can out cook a place like this. read more

I wanted so bad for this to be atleast a 4. Bbq was bleh. Brisket is dry, portions were small, sauce wasnt good and service wasnt either. The hush puppies were so over cooked they were rocks. The chips they force u to take arent that great either. We were a decent size group so we tried literally everything. No one was super impressed. We were Given attitude when someone asked if they had a bathroom. Needless to say-i wont be back. Dont waste your time. read more

This is the best pulled pork I have ever had in my life. I never write reviews but I felt so compelled that I couldn't not write one. I literally ate a full sandwich then went back in and ordered another one because it was so good I didn't want it to end. New favorite spot in charlottesville for sure read more

Red Hub Food Co - pulled pork sandwich with house made chips, coleslaw, and a pickle - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

If you have decided to eat here or are considering it my only advice is to get the chicken wings, just do it. They are amazing. Those wings and the excellent service are earning this place a 5 star review in my book. We also ordered the pulled pork which was just ok but the deliciousness of the wings made up for it. I would eat here again. read more

Red Hub Food Co - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

The meat was moist, well seasoned and loved the different sauces. Hubby had small portions though. Luckily I had the Brunswick stew to help fill him up! Everything was delicious! read more

Red Hub Food Co - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

Red Hub proves that simple fare does not equate to bland or boring. Today, I ordered the barbeque sandwich platter-- a real delight. The meat was tender and flavorful, even before the addition of sauce. The accompanying "chips" were actually home-made with a wonderful blend of crispy edges and real potato tenderness. The hush puppies were light and tender, not the grease-laden lead weights found elsewhere. A unique slaw added a slightly sweet kick to the sandwich with just the right amount of heat. I couldn't resist picking up a logo mason jar drink cup filled with lemonade. Next trip, I may need to get the t-shirt, as well. There will definitely be a next trip! read more

Red Hub Food Co - I think I need this Red Hub shirt! - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

Catering for our office. BBQ sandwiches came with no sauce, Italian subs came with just meat and cheese. No lettuce, tomato, Italian dressing? Everything was dry because there were no sauces of any kind. Delivered lemonade was hot... not cold, not even warm. Was this in the sun for hours before being it here? The chips that were not soggy were good, but half of them seemed like they were boiled. read more

Red Hub catered our wedding and we loved everything about it!! They were extremely professional to work with and accommodating to all of our requests. The food was AMAZING and the guests loved it. They left the venue even cleaner than it was when they started. They were so kind to me on my big day. I highly recommend working with them! The food, presentation, and kind staff will impress your guests! read more

The price here is unbeatable! I got the pulled pork platter with chips, hush puppies, and Mac and cheese all for just $10 and it was very filling. They also had a variety of different sauces for my sandwich which I personally think was my favorite part. The hush puppies were delicious and fresh and I have no complaints on the food. The reason why I put three stars was that the barbecue wasn't mind blowing and I know there are other barbecue places in cville that are much better. The place itself was very quaint and the servers were kind and accommodating. read more

Red Hub Food Co - Pulled pork platter with chips, hush puppies, and Mac and cheese - Southern Near Me - Charlottesville, Virginia

I tried the Cuban sandwich and the brisket sandwich. Both were not not good. The Cuban was served on dry rye bread that was breaking apart making it impossible to eat as a sandwich. The pulled pork was ok but the ham was simple deli ham. Overall the sandwich was very disappointing and I ended up throwing most of it out. The brisket sandwich was plain, just a bun and brisket. The brisket had no flavor. So it was just a bland meat sandwich. I also threw most of it away. Not sure what happened today. I have eaten here in the past, granted well over a year ago, and the food was good. Maybe an off day but I doubt I will give them another chance. read more

This review is easy to write. Just had a big fat pulled pork sandwich and it was damn good. You know what got me? Half way through it I realized the how delicious even the dang bun was! I'm not kidding. It was lightly grilled which created a wonderful combination of texture and flavor as the sauce soaked into it. They could have pulled a bun out of a plastic bag but didn't. The meat was perfect - moist, flavorful and plenty of it. Half an hour later and my mouth still has that lingering taste of comfort-food satisfaction. The sides were very good too. I recommend the macaroni and the Louisiana slaw, and the special recipe sauce for dipping the hushpuppies was yet another special touch that shows these guys understand the difference. And they have atmosphere if you know what I mean, like a BBQ place should have. These guys got it going on. read more

UPDATE: Just read Ryan from Red Hub's salty response to my previous review. Please note that there is zero misinformation in my review -- indeed, Ryan confirms everything I said in his whiny post ("we DO NOT prepare our brisket in a pan!!!" *describes in detail how they prepare it in a pan*). At Red Hub, they take what might have been great brisket (when it was fresh out of the smoker) and throw it in the fridge. When you order it, they take it out of the fridge and reheat it in a pan (as Ryan from Red Hub astutely points out, most folks don't want fridge-temperature brisket!). This ruins brisket. Instead of picking through Red Hub's negative reviews, I suggest you spend the time figuring out how to serve your brisket fresh. Sorry for apparently striking a nerve though. read more