I received a notice for a recall and I needed a new battery for my keyless car-fob. I had such a terrible experience at Bradley Acura I knew I didn't want to take my business to them. So I drove the extra miles to Laurel Acura. Everything about my visit went very well. From the customer service to check out I was very pleased. I love that they provide free snacks and coffee, although the coffee maker was out of service. I will definitely drive the extra miles for quality service. Thank you Laurel Acura! read more

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I placed a $1,000 deposit with Acura of Laurel on June 30, 2025, for a two-year One Pay lease on an Acura ZDX, after they assured me the vehicle would be delivered between July 4-8. The lease terms were meant to match a deal my friend received. After following up multiple times, I was told on the morning of July 7 that the delivery had been delayed until July 15--with no VIN, allocation details, or any assurance it would actually arrive. When I asked about the delay, the response was vague and dismissive. I was told, "We can't do anything about it," and they even offered to refund my deposit mid-conversation without addressing my concerns. This entire interaction left me feeling like I was misled into placing a deposit so they could lock me out of the end-of-quarter and July 4th lease deals while pushing other inventory. I expected better communication and professionalism from an Acura dealership. Very disappointing experience. read more

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I've been a loyal customer of this dealership's service department for nearly nine years (since their Tischer days), and until recently, I've always felt confident bringing my vehicles here. Unfortunately, the quality of service has declined noticeably in the past year or so, which has been disappointing given my long history with their team. I understand that new vehicles can sometimes have issues early on, but it's been frustrating to repeatedly bring up problems just to be told nothing's wrong--only to later confirm that there is. Having to record these issues on my phone just to demonstrate that something isn't working as it should isn't on par with the level of service I've come to expect. To be fair, they did ultimately replace the starter on my new car after it started randomly leaving me stranded, but the process took several visits and a lot of back-and-forth before the issue was fully resolved. I've always accepted that servicing here costs more than at other shops, but it was discouraging to receive a quote nearly double what Honda charges for a comparable timing belt service and to be told to "go to Honda" when I asked them to first fix one of the many other warranty-covered issues --especially after multiple unsuccessful attempts to fix them. While my advisor has always been professional and respectful, I feel that when issues become complicated or require extra attention, there's a tendency to dismiss or defer rather than fully resolve them. I would prefer to get this all resolved through the dealership, and hopefully continue servicing here, but I'm not optimistic about it and would not recommend Acura of Laurel at this point. read more

Best experience at Acura of Laurel today purchasing a 2025 MDX from Mychal!! If you're shopping for a new Acura, definitely go see him!! So happy with our purchase; everyone there was super friendly and helpful. read more

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I had a deeply disappointing experience at Acura of Laurel. My son and I came in to purchase a vehicle he had been speaking with a sales associate, Kevin, about. Kevin was courteous and professional throughout, but unfortunately, our experience was derailed by the General Sales Manager, Danny Pak. Despite being told we could leave a deposit and return with a cashier's check to complete the sale, Danny abruptly changed the terms after I complied--without explanation, and with a condescending tone. When I tried to clarify the situation, he spoke down to me and ultimately canceled the sale altogether. His demeanor was arrogant, dismissive, and completely unprofessional. What should have been a celebratory day--purchasing a car for my son after he completed grad school--turned into a frustrating ordeal. I felt judged and disrespected for reasons that had nothing to do with the facts of the transaction. I've never experienced such a lack of courtesy or basic customer respect in a dealership. Kevin did his best, and I truly feel for him losing a sale due to poor leadership. Acura of Laurel needs to seriously address how customers are treated--especially when their own staff provides misinformation and then shifts blame without accountability. read more

2025 ACURA ADX The customer service from beginning to end is great! . Toni and Danny make an amazing team. They are personable and you can sense that though it is a business, this team just wants to help you get what you want/need without pressure and without worry. I'm was impressed with their honesty and integrity. The pricing is fair, and the sales team is willing to go the extra mile. read more

BUYER BEWARE! I purchased a car here a month ago. I had originally left a 5 star review for my buying experience and salesperson. I had an unfortunate vandalism incident a week ago and filed an insurance claim. The insurance company allowed me to choose my repair facility, and based on my buying experience, I opted to have my car taken back to Acura of Laurel for repairs. I called before having my car taken there, and I had to call 5 different times before I could get a live person on the phone. I should have heeded the red flags then and there. My car was taken in on Wednesday. I called Friday morning to find out the status, and had to leave a voicemail. Saturday morning I woke up to a missed call from the service department. They did not leave a voicemail, so I returned their call exactly 20 minutes later. No response, voicemail again. I called Monday 5/5, A TOTAL OF EIGHT TIMES BEFORE I COULD GET A HUMAN TO ANSWER THE PHONE. The only reason I even was able to reach a live person is because I selected the sales department option. Imagine that. Instantly answering calls for sales, but getting through to the service department is an act of god. I had to leave voicemails for two different managers. Finally, GM Danny called me back. It was obvious he did not care about my experience, or what is very obviously a known and ongoing issue. All I got from Danny was a "let me look into this and I'll have the service manager call you back" and the most hollow apology I've ever received. The service manager finally called me back, alleging they have left me voicemails that they have not. The service manager claimed that the parts supplier my insurance company authorized does not have the necessary parts. Insurance company informs me differently. I can't get them to call me back, I'm in limbo for who knows how long. They tell lies to cover their shortcomings. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS MAKING THE SALE - THEY COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR SERVICE NEEDS. It is not that they are unaware, as it is clearly reflected in plenty of reviews that others have complained about the same things. They do not care to take corrective actions. Plain and simple. Take your money elsewhere! And spread the word! P.S. Danny or whoever responds to the reviews - I don't need your empty apologies (again). Expedite my repairs. Period. read more

Rarely does a business get my high star rating, but today I am making an exception. Tried to make a phone appointment to no avail. Their phone system just doesn't work or they just ignore it. Nor did they return my call after I left my information, so I used the online method (yuk). However they absolutely redeemed themselves today! They are woefully understaffed and despite this, the only advisor today, Gage running around like a man with a mission, really took care of our vehicle today. Great job Gabe! They fixed the screen blanking problem and fixed a nail in the tire all in about 2 hours. He is pleasant to deal with and treats you like a high end automobile customer should be treated. They even washed and vacuummed the car before I left. And it was done well. Keep up the good work, but please work on that phone system. I hate online booking as I'm old school. read more

Acura of Laurel does not stand by their sales. In Oct 2022, I bought a 2023 Acura MDX. I added a hitch which they couldn't give me that day because they didn't have the parts. They gave me one of their "We Owe You" sheets. Now, it is 9 months later, multiple calls to them. They keep telling me they will call me back, but they never do. Now, they will not answer or return my calls and have not honored the contract I have with them. BUYER BEWARE! read more

Good service I like it when I get a loaner Makes me want to buy a new car.................................... read more

I was in the search of purchasing a new vehicle. I came across Acura of Laurel. I worked with Ronald Diaz and he made it a pleasant, fast but efficient process. The vehicle was in perfect condition and the price was amazing. read more

Great car buying experience. I did a trade-in assessment on their website and spoke to someone on their web chat right before open. Then shortly after they opened I received a call from Brian telling me the car was still available. We met 30 minutes later and he had it parked out front ready for a test drive. Owner introduced himself (as a manager) to me while I was outside inspecting the car and took my car around for a trade-in assessment which was in range of what they told me on their website. Car ran great, it was a 2004 Acura TSX which was looked over by their master technician prior to it going up for sale. They gave me a fair price for the car and for mine and it was a painless process. Deal took about 30 minutes to complete and then paperwork took about 1.5 hours to finish up since by then they had other deals going on and put me in line for processing. Car came with a free 30 day 1,000 mile warranty and a full tank of gas read more

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Do not service your vehicle here. Dealership will not honor national car care plans, maintenance plan, and pre-paid plans. There's a reason this dealership, formerly Tischer, is still subpar. Nice people bad policy. read more

Me and my family have bought now 5 cars from Acura of Laurel. Every single car was sold to us by Mr Tony Saadipour and every time we went to purchase a vehicle he treated us with the up most respect and did his absolute best to provide us perfect customer service and told us everything we needed to know about a vehicle before we made a choice! A true salesman and he does his absolute best to make sure he can get you the best deal possible! We really appreciate everyone at Acura of Laurel for always making our car buying experience a good one! And thank you again Mr Tony! - The Raja Family read more

I had a great experience and highly recommended this dealership. I purchased a TLX Aspec and the car is amazing. My sales person was Tony and he seemed more than dedicated to make sure I had an excellent car buying experience. He went over the car in detail and took time to explain all of the cool options and features. When my transaction was finished, the manager introduced himself to me, which was a very nice touch. There's nothing like good old-school customer service and I really appreciated the experience at Acura of Laurel. read more

Interested in purchasing used car. Sales manager and salesman never mentioned damage to front right bumper. The damage was also conveniently left out of the car photos. Damage to car also not listed on carfax. Drove and hour and a half to look at vehicle. Instantly noticed damage. I won't do business with shady dealership, salesman, and sales manager and Acura of Laurel. Stay away from this shady dealership!! read more

I was having issues with my car making noises and I wanted to take it to the Acura dealer to make sure it was diagnosed properly. I made an appointment for the next day and was assigned to Service Advisor, Ellen Tardiff. The day of my appointment, my car would not start. I called Ellen to let her know that I wouldn't be able to make it to the appointment on time because I had to get the car towed to the dealership. She was so nice and said to take my time and be safe because it was snowing outside. When I finally arrived, immediately I could feel her positive vibes. She was extremely polite and helpful. She said she would call me by 1pm to let me know what the problem was. She called a lot earlier than expected. She told me the issue and quoted a price. She said the car would be ready by the end of the day. Ellen sent me a text message letting me know that the repairs was going to take a little longer than expected and it would be ready the next day. However, she offered to provide a loaner car. She said, she wouldn't be there when I arrive but her colleague Gage would be there to help me. Gage knew exactly who I was when I arrived. He was also very polite and helpful. The next day Ellen reached out to me to let me know that my car was ready and my car passed the multi-point inspection with flying colors! Another thing I expected to hear was I needed to get a bunch of other repairs but that was not the case. And to top it off, the repairs were a lot less than originally quoted. I was ecstatic about that!! I picked my car up and it was washed and vacuumed. For some reason, I didn't expect stellar customer service but these two employees are the best! Especially Ellen!! She is so personable and I felt like I already knew her. It was also refreshing to see a female service advisor that knows her stuff!! It was my first time going to this dealership and it won't be my last! Thank you both!! read more

I had a b16 service and a recall completed about a week ago. When I called and spoke to Pablo he was excellent. Easy to make an appointment. When I got to the service department everyone was so friendly, welcoming, and they explained every step of the process. I was thoroughly happy with my service. I will be returning. I would've liked to see pictures of the process along the way as this is becoming more common of dealerships around the nation. read more

If possible to give this location 0 star, I would absolutely do so without a thought behind it. I took my car in for service and to buy some parts, no problem everything went fine, the young gentlemen with a beard behind the parts section was so disrespectful and so unprofessional that I felt uncomfortable asking for help. Never coming here again, their work is good so I'll say that's the only good part. Everything else from customer service is horrible. Would never recommend anybody to come in to save them from this horrible experience. read more

The Acura repair and service at this location is definitely overcharging its clientele, fabricating charges, using tricks that you would not expect from a reputable company. This scam is PARTLY driven by the fact that there is a salesman/coordinator between the client and the mechanics , the more service you are sold( needed / not needed or suggested) at higher price the more $$money $$ all of them make . I wish someone would investigate them and expose these aggravated abuses. Not cool. read more

Buyer beware! I was reminded this week how I despise going into a new car dealership. I test drove a new MDX. I had my checkbook and was ready to buy.. I've been to other Acura dealerships and found the color/model here. For starters, they offered me $5k LESS for my SUV. They required me to pay another $2K for some type of maintenance package that he had a difficult time explaining. Finally they wanted $2500 above MSRP for "market conditions". The other dealers are not asking for that on the '23 MDX. Needless to say that will be my last time in this Acura dealership. The salesman didn't even respond to my email. Danny Pak- You might want to think twice about your approach with new customers. read more

I have had top notch service at several Nissan dealerships throughout the life of my car and this one is no different. Matt was friendly but not over the top. He called me whenever the technicians had updates or wanted to double check before they went ahead with the service and made sure my car was ready close to when I needed it. I always request an hour or two before I really need it to give cushion for unexpected delays. I love having all of my maintenance tracked with the dealership and because I move every so often, it would be great if they could transfer records from out of state to another dealership. The good maintenance has paid off and my car is in great shape. There have been a couple of times when I went to a local mechanic who was not totally familiar with all the ins and outs of my car and and it was more of a headache in the long run. I'm a dealership sucker. read more

This review is based on the Service Department - Took my car here several times, so I was a return customer but the service both times were sub-par but 3rd time is always the charm! It appears if you have an older model car Acura, they have no interest in properly diagnosing and/or fixing your vehicle but trying to sell you a newer model. I have a 2008 Acura RDX and took it in the week of Thanksgiving/November 2017 becasue my car not starting properly, possible bad starter. They had the car 3 days leading up to Thanksgiving and claimed they found nothing. I stressed that I was going out of town and didn't want to be somewhere and my car didn't start and that's exactly what happened! I had to get my car towed and repaired to my dad's mechanic in New Jersey and it was the starter. A total inconvenience but thank God I was with family and had access to vehicles. I really believe they didn't even bother to look at my vehicle the WHOLE 3 days they had it!!! Considering the fact that I wasn't charged the $160 for diagnostic testing, I wholeheartedly believe they didn't look at it. I would not be returning to this location. read more

Acura of Laurel Fort Mead gets a FIVE STAR rating!! I did not purchase our MDX from them but will definitely purchase our next Acura from this dealership. The service team members are very professional and kind. Our vehicle was making a noise that sounded like it was coming from the front of it. The technician could not find anything initially but after a second test ride and hearing the noise, he did not stop trouble shooting until he figured out what it was. Kudos to the service team!!! We are looking forward to purchasing our next Acura from this dealership in the near future. read more

Shady business tactics... Went to the dealership to test drive an Acura MDX to make sure I liked it, and pick what color I wanted. I knew I wasn't going to buy until the following week when I had the insurance money. Test drove a 2020 MDX and loved it, asked price and was given a sheet of paper that said 46k. Okay, a few days later the same exact car, was posted on their website for 43,900. Of course the sales associate follows up with phone calls to see if I am ready to buy. Go back the next week to buy and they tell me 46k again. I asked what about matching what is on your website, 43,900. Associate talks to manager, and they say it is "an update mistake." So I check their website then and there and it still says 43,900. They would not bring down their price to match what was posted on their website! They are shady and deceitful and post prices thousands of dollars lower to get you there. Immediately left there after showing manager a screenshot of exact same car, 1k less mileage, at Sheehy Toyota down the street for 41.9k. He still would not bring down the price. Went to Sheehy Toyota right after leaving Acura of Laurel and purchased my 2020 MDX for a great price! The next day, of course I guessed it, they contacted me and asked if I bought a car. Yes, I did from a dealership that doesn't lie and post lower prices to get people in the door and then hike it up by thousands when I am there. Errol was very nice, poor guy was just stuck in the middle. Noah the manager, shameful you couldn't even match what was posted on the internet. I don't think that's legal... read more

Great dealership with Good selection of new abc preowned cars. Mohamod in sales and Antonio the finance manager are great to work with. read more

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Since i began using Tisher to service my vehicle i had been very happy with the service i received and i will constantly come back. My service advisor is Pablo, he's great and a pleasure to work with read more

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My car stopped on me and needed an alternator, battery and a B1 service. I was charged 1185. I drove the car home and heard noises from the engine. Took the car back 5 days later and was told I needed a belt and a power steering pump. Which costed an additional $800 dollars which would have been more but the service manager took $150 off of the bill. Picked my car up last Tuesday only now my air conditioner is now broken. What are the ODDs? Every time I take my vehicle there I pick it up and something else is wrong.. the people that are fixing the cars are incompetent and Break your vehicle so you can have to come back.. be ware plus they don't vacuum your car after a service. I had to say something in order for then to do a good job!! Avoid this service department at all costs!!!! read more

This place is all about MONEY!! There is no way anyone should have to pay $120 for someone to tell you the locks don't work! I advised the guy the locks didn't work but he says they have to take the door panels off... Okay, the end result is " the locks don't work" the exact same thing I said when I came in. read more

I had a good experience with a salesman named Mfon. Informative, patient and no pressure. Very smooth, hassle-free, refreshing car-buying experience. The actual space--dealership/lobby area/waiting area do leave a lot to be desired... Especially for people with kids. Maybe I'm being "extra" but I feel like businesses where adults have to wait for service usually put at least some thought into keeping kids occupied. Oh well. Are my expectations too great? Perhaps I just need to just come to terms with the fact that I'm not driving my Lexus anymore and deal with the downgrade that has occurred across the board. No more play rooms, fresh fruit, donuts and workstations:-( read more

Asked them to determine why the SRS warning light was on all the time on my parents' Acura. They charged $150 to do a "diagnosis." The result: They said the passenger side seat back/sensors and associated control unit both had shorts and both needed to be replaced. Cost: $1,200. Took the car home. Did some quick research on the web. Found several great ASE videos covering Acura service bulletins associated with the SRS light warning light. The videos said the leather seats can contract over time, and could bind the sensors in the passenger seat back causing the SRS warning light to come on. Possible solution that was recommended to be tried before doing anything else: Push hard a few times in the middle of the passenger seat back. Tried that - actually, only pushed once - and the SRS warning light went right off! So, 15 minutes of web research and 15 seconds to try the recommended solution. Problem solved. Cost: $0. Wow. They would have charged my parents $1,200 FOR NOTHING. And, that's not counting the $150 my parents did pay to be provided a bogus "diagnosis" that clearly did not include reviewing relevant service bulletins. Not bringing any vehicles here ever again. read more

It is rare for me to leave a negative review, that fact should help others understand the significance of this review. Sales team was OK. However, listing a car online for almost $5,000 less then what you're selling in store, because of different "incentives" that are no longer available is sneaky and underhanded. This practice has a name. bait-and-switch noun the action (generally illegal) of advertising goods that are an apparent bargain, with the intention of substituting inferior or more expensive goods. No, I don't want the other vehicle with fewer options. I was actually willing to laugh this off, and even called the bait-n-switch out with a laugh to the salesman. I mean, we are talking about a car dealership, and the negative reputation has been earned. The REAL problem is the damage done to my vehicle while they were appraising it for trade-in consideration! My alignment is off and I can feel it in the wheel shake and pulling. I bought excellent Michelin tires and know how my car feels on the road. Of course they denied any responsibility, I expected nothing less. Be warned, the potential is very real that your car could be damaged while they are doing their appraisal! Mine was. When I called and asked to speak with a manager in a very polite way, it's not the receptionists fault after all, it took thee redials and only after a notified the receptionist that my next call was going to be to the regional office did a manager magically become available. I notified him off the situation and that I would be leaving negative reviews. Hopefully they can insure this never happens again, but I for one will not be going back to find out. After an establishment damages your car, it is wise to never return. Maybe you can learn from my experience and I sincerely hope that this doesn't happen to any one else. read more

Had a question about ordering a car key - we need a car key, and based on technology, I know we will have to order one and *maybe* have it programmed. This was the nature of the question I asked - how does that work exactly? And, how much does it cost? I spoke with 4 different people through 2 phone calls. The person I finally ended up with was very annoyed at the question. Two different people in Parts told me they had "no idea" what the service hour rate was. Hmm. Really?? One person told me "{programming the key} could take 1 hour, or it could take 2." Well... ? I wonder if there is a way that you, working at Nissan, could find that out... EVEN IF that's not your department. I'll try another Nissan dealer. read more

I called about 17 dealerships, five of which were Nissan dealerships before I went with this one. I chose to give this one a shot for two reasons: * They gave me a good deal on a vehicle that they needed to get off their lot. * The salesperson was professional and accommodating to work with. After pricing around and visiting another dealership in person, I ended up buying the car from them. This is the fifth time that I've gone through the process of buying a car from a dealership and it was the best experience that I've had so far. PROS: * After purchasing the car, the salesperson took the time to go over the handbook for the car with me. He also took me outside and went over a few things on the car with me including how to connect my phone to the Bluetooth for hands free calling. This is the kind of service that I would expect when purchasing a complex machine for many thousands of dollars. But of all 5 cars that I've bought, this is the only time they went over the car with me like that. * Nissan has you fill out a survey with respect to your experience at the dealership when the process is over. I think this quality control step helps discourage the unethical behavior that is rampant in the car sales industry. * They gave me a free oil change on my other car even after I told them that I was going to buy their car either way. * They were able to work out really good financing terms for me. CONS: * They did not give me the price that was advertised on the car because it included the "recent college grad" Nissan rebate which I was not eligible for. This is not to say that the price they gave me wasn't a very good one. I did an exhaustive comparison of other options in the area and this was the best deal, but I don't think that it is ethical to advertise prices that are not realistic for the majority of buyers. Coming from someone who did their homework and has a fair amount of experience working with car dealerships, I suggest this dealership if you are in the market for a Nissan. read more

Probably like many, the 1st step isn't to go to the dealer for service, I know that was my mantra. No longer! For the past 2 weeks, I've brought my Acura to 4 service places to have them replace the Main Relay Switch because the car had "intermittent crank but no start" episodes. They refused to do it because of course, the car chose to start. I.E?, they did not listen to me but expected a problem that was random to occur. I researched extensively online and narrowed it down to that part. None of the other highly rated places would LISTEN to a woman and take out the old part. But one very pleasant call to Tischer changed that! Ellen listened to me, she spoke to the service tech and they agreed to do it! Lo and behold, i was correct! The solenoids and connections were fried. Also done on the same day I called! Very friendly, reasonably priced, comfortable atmosphere to wait, done quickly, etc. I am now a convert to using the dealer for service. Thank you Tischer Acura. PS the showroom is great and a brand new service and very friendly helpful staff. read more

I bought my RDX here in 2007 and have had excellent experience with the dealer since. Service is always top notch and the staff is friendly. If you need a ride, it's not too hard to score a loaner, or they'll take you by shuttle to your destination. If you choose to hang out, they've got Wi-Fi, free coffee & snacks, and cable TV. Waiting area is not good for kids, though -- but they are building a new facility that may have better amenities. read more

Made an (a week in advance) appointment drove all the way from baltimore just for them to tell me the car I was interested in was being serviced. If someone has made an appt to test drive a car why wouldn't it be ready? Especially when it's been on your lot for 60 days prior to me coming to test drive it? New Salesman Matin talked to me like I was a toddler when I asked him questions about the vehicle being serviced. They then told me it would be there in 20 mins in the mean time tried to get me to run my credit so they could see if I could afford another vehicle on the lot (an Acura). I told them no thank you and proceeded to leave. At this point my boyfriend who had been angrily quiet spoke with Matin and a sales manager who told him the car would be ready in an hour and they would call. They didn't call. I'm glad I chose not to stay in the area. UPDATE: Matin called me today to tell me the vehicle is not Available for retail only wholesale. Which means something was wrong with it all along. ‍ read more

Dropped of my 2009 MDX for service. This was my first time using this dealership. They fixed my issue at zero cost as my vehicle was still under warranty. I liked the shuttle service as well as the complimentary wash/vacuum service. Great customer service from Jason in the Acura Service dept. read more

This review is for Service Dept. This use to be the best place around for servicing your vehicle but not in the past couple years. Two things: 1. Had a noise occurring after I brought in MDX in for replacing catalytic converter. Brought back twice. Second time they said some cover around catalytic converter needed tightening and charged me $75. Noise continued and third time they finally figured out it was catalytic converter that needed tightening. 2. They had a rewards program that I found was discontinued out of the blue and I lost $121 balance I had for that. They would not let me use the balance because program was discontinued. No notice . Guess this was a way for them to save thousands of dollars but in reality, they lose my business (and i and my dad were good customers). Cannot trust this service department anymore. Maybe that is why they lost a really good service tech I dealt with for years around the same time. read more

Come here to buy your Acura but skip the shady service department. Who recommends balancing for rotating tires? Note to future self: Save yourself the $80 and just stick to the oil change you went for in the first place. Also, I never knew a car wash can make your car look dirtier until today. The streaks on my hood and on the trunk were rather disappointing after waiting in their lackluster lounge. Yeah, it's shared with the Nissan service department but at least Rosenthal Acura tries to make theirs look half decent and feel like that of a luxury car dealership ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ read more