I was gonna get halo halo, but then I decided to get a calamansi tea instead. It felt watered down and it was like calamansi with water. I didn't taste any tea and I also felt like it was using something. Maybe like a little bit of sugar or honey or something. I also got the leche flan. Let me tell you, that thing is THICCCCC. Super super rich and very condense milk forward. It was really sweet too. I could only eat a couple of bites. read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

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I've bookmarked Eggrolly for several months now and finally made the trek over the past few days. This visit served dual purpose which was to... #1.) Finally try it after reading the rave review posted by fellow Yelper, Joy C. and #2.) To break my husband into the varied Filipino menu (aside from what he's been exposed to eating during family dinners) as we approach our upcoming trip to the Philippines. I gotta say the food is pretty good! My favorites are obviously their renowned eggrolls. We personally enjoyed the beef and pork filled lumpia. Other favorites were the Binondo fried chicken, the Mushroom and Tofu Adobo, Lechon Kawali and the cholesterol inducing Crispy Pata! LoL! Service was courteous, albeit slow, but when the food came out the quality shined. I would love to return to have more eggrolls, try out their sweets (they have a big selection) and come back for the Beef Pares-Miki Noodle. I liked the modern Tagalog/Filipino music selection along with the spacious and comfy seating. They have a good sized parking lot and it's definitely a solid place to enjoy Filipino food. read more

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Really really delicious food! I think they just changed either ownership or name from Eggrolly. We had the halo halo and it was so tasty. I liked that the food wasn't too salty and the flavors were great. Plenty of free parking and not too crowded. I'd definitely come back. read more

This place is a SCAM!! You lure ppl in by offering these delicious longonisa hopia, never once saying that there are limited production item that is eventually going to be DISCONTINUED, and then when asked "why?", you just say, "oh, because we don't want to make them anymore!". WHAT THE HELL KIND OF RESPONSE IS THAT to a customer !!??? Let me rephrase...a FORMER CUSTOMER!!! I'll be taking my business elsewhere from now on!! 85° Bakery is just down the street, and while they don't have longonisa hopia (and neither do you anymore apparently), THEY know how to treat customers. No wonder YOUR store is empty every time I come in! You ppl better get your shit straight or you're not going to be in business very long!! read more

I know it's under new name now (Kapwa Bakery) but just wanted to leave a review here. We ordered garlic rice, longganisa with eggs for $10 (not sure if $10.50 I forgot or just $10)and garlic rice with tocino and eggs. Pretty decent, it's flavorful. Staff works fast and the breads look very tempting.. clean cafe! They only open from 8am-3pm. Closed on Tuesday. They needed to update website, grub hub and yelp page. read more

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The first time I tried Egrrolly was when they just opened a couple of years ago. I wasn't a fan of the caldereta and beefsteak that I had so I didn't go again, until last month. When my daughter and I walked in on a Friday night, the place only had one table of customers. The server was friendly and attentive. On this visit, we tried the PARES, BINONDO CHICKEN, and PORK BBQ SKEWERS. Everything that we had was delicious. The pares was so flavorful, the chicken was crispy outside and juicy inside. and the pork bbq was tasty and tender. We waited for quite a long time on this visit though. Our server was the only one fronting the place and a few people were picking up take-out orders, and 2 other groups dined in. He did try his best to attend to all the customers but we were there longer than expected. I had an out-of-town guest who loves pares so I decided to take him here after a couple of weeks. I called the place on our way there to put our orders in (so we didn't have to wait a long time again) and they were nice to accommodate my request. For this visit, we ordered the PARES, BINONDO CHICKEN, and the FATTY PORK ADOBO. The pares and chicken were solid but we weren't impressed with the adobo. We also tried SAGO'T GULAMAN, which you can customize the sweetness level and it was delicious. From the bakery section, we tried the UBE BRIOCHE, CHEESE BRIOCHE, SPANISH BREAD, and PANDESAL. They were all freshly made, the brioches were fluffy and soft, and they were simply fantastic. The wait time on the second visit was way better than our first. The server was very efficient and attentive. The bathroom was clean and well-maintained. Overall, I would come back here. Whether to satisfy my PARES craving or get something delicious from the bakeshop. I hope you stay strong Eggrolly, 'til next time! read more

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Back again after a while!!!!! Good and delish still!!!! Just wish more people would come check them out. Definitely good food. It's nice and quiet but the music is good. read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

Lumpia was not great and there was a string in my pancit I found mid chew. Horrible first experience. read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

Coffee was great, the food was absolutely delicious, and the service was excellent. If you're craving Filipino food, this is definitely the place to go! read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Tocilog and Ube latte - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

Cute and cheerful cafe with Filipino sweets and dishes We came to Eggrolly after dinner so I'm only commenting on the sweets portion. First, what a charming and sweet cafe when you enter. There are brightly colored booths, friendly graphics on the wall. Smoothies are made to your left, but the bakery counter beckons with its brightly frosted cupcakes and assortment of Ensaymada Brioche- a tender sweet dough. We tried a brioche with Ube and shockingly it was served with a generous serving of shredded cheese. It was actually quite delicious with the lightly sweet and tender dough with sweet purple Ube. We actually quite liked the cheese on top because it was mellow and gentle, not sharp, and gave a richness to the pastry. We also ordered a halo halo, an ube shave ice with jelly and coconut strips and gulaman. The ube latte was rich and sweet and purple and piping hot. Will return to try the lumpia or the namesake egg rolls. read more

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This is my first time to try the restaurant , was very disappointed on the food . Bread got too much yeast that it taste like alcohol . Drinks are good though . read more

All online menus are old. Tried ordering from available menus and was told many items were removed. All egg rolls were over cooked. Filling was so minimal. Almost could not taste it. Bao buns were good. The tofu and the chicken, both tasty. Only had wished that the cashier would have told me BEFORE he processed my CC payment, that the buns would take 30 minutes. I had no choice but to wait. The dessert, a beautiful chocolate cupcake was stale; Very dry. The Co Co buns were good, but could have used more filling. Almost finished bun before finding any coconut. This is our second visit. Doubt we'll be going back. Maybe, maybe not. ***In response to your response: I'm letting people know not to look online at menus because they are old. They won't know until they go into your place to look at the menu or have a paper menu on hand at home. True I did not need to wait a full thirty minutes for buns, but I would have liked to know I'd be waiting at all. I did not mention taste of cupcake, only that it seemed stale because it was very dry. Perhaps we are not familiar with your country's way of cooking. Appreciate your reply. read more

First time at Egg Rolly, I arrived just around lunch time on a cold Friday but was warmly welcomed by the friendly staff. They went over their daily specials and I have to say that it was difficult to resist since it seems like such a deal. Daily specials are chicken meals, and I had the adobo. I did want orange chicken, but it didn't seem right for a Filipino restaurant. Also had the pancit Malabon which was served with shrimp and egg (I felt it was luxurious since eggs are such luxury these days) The chicken had some charred smokiness and a delicious savory /semi sweet sauce. Absolutely needed rice, and the staff happened to bring out extra rice to us just for that purpose! The star was really the lumpias - we tried pork and shrimp (Shanghai style) and also the straight pork. They were bite-sized and wonderful. Since we were in a bakery I needed some sweets as well to go with the 'egg rolls' so we had the brioche and Spanish breads. Awesome with a black morning coffee. I found out about the brunch options on the weekends and I'll have to come back to try those dishes. I could definitely watch the big game on their TV's and munch on those lumpia good stuff! read more

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Closed on Mon-Tue and now Saturday too. Our friends and I drove all the way here one Saturday, only to find out that they're closed. What restaurant is closed on a damn Saturday? I just wish that they're open 7 days a week, just like most of the Filipino Restaurants around. Otherwise they'll tend to loose business to their competitors. Well, I guess we'll put this on the least likely to visit for Filipino restaurants. read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

Got take out delivery. I think this is Filipino style fast food. Tried the roasted pork entree & 10 pieces mixed egg roll. Solid food. Great prices. For the egg roll, I recommend the beef or pork ones. Veges ones are too plain. I'm definitely going to try the rest of the menu soon. read more

We've done carry out a couple times, and they even gave my husband a soda to drink while he waited the first time he was there. The food is good, and good portions. My favorites are the lumpia (called pork egg rolls on their menu, but they're traditional Filipino lumpia) and the chicken and pork kebabs. (I prefer a la carte items like this to full meals.) Also, the Sans Rival (a Filipino dessert delicacy) is heavenly. read more

Nice place to eat TapSiLog. The place is so clean. Nice people to talk to.Big parking lot. easy access to the main street. 15 minutes from Chicago. read more

Attended tasting event in April 2024. DH and I were satisfied. I like the beef pares and habanero pork eggrolls with swet and sour sauce. Plenty of parking space. Chef recommends to order celebration cakes in advance. He does not freeze cakes. Ube cakes are made to order. read more

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We came in on a chilly weekday for lunch. The place was empty and even throughout our sit down meal there were only a small handful of only take out orders. Service was phenomenal and the staff was so attentive and incredibly welcoming. We ordered the chicken adobo lunch special and the pancit malabon. Both were good and tasty. We also ordered some lumpia, pork which were crispy and very good. And they also gave us 4 mixed lumpia to try. On the way out we were sure to grab some bakery goods to take home to enjoy the next day. read more

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I came this place with no expectations as I am Filipino and it is a Filipino restaurant. I did not want to cloud my judgement based off of comparisons to other authentic Filipino restaurants I frequently visit. I visited with an open mind. When you step in, the first thing I noticed is the dining area to be fairly large. Straight ahead from the entrance is a full fledged bakery filled with classic Filipino desserts (Cakes, brioche buns aka ensamada, cookies filled with mung bean aka hopia, and so on). The dessert bar is to die for. Even if you don't order any food from the restaurant portion, be sure to order a dessert... You won't be disappointed. When ordering for food, I was told everything is made-to-order. I was greeted with warmth and the people working really helped me with my food options. As their namesake states, they are eggroll first. They still a variety of different types but here's the kicker... They have this homemade "cheesy sauce" that can accompany eggroll order. They also allow you to order entrees to compliment the egg rolls. You can buy the entree as a la cart or x items. Would definitely visit again as all their food is great read more

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Passed this restaurant while on our way to Evanston and asked my hubby if we could stop on the way back home. I'm so glad we did. Ordered the watermelon bubble tea, a Nutella pastry, and some buns with purple yam in them. Absolutely delicious! While I was waiting for my bubble tea, they asked if I would like to try an egg roll. I said sure. I got the chicken egg roll with the cheese sauce and it was delicious! Too bad I ate in the car on the way home. If I had tried it before leaving the restaurant I would have bought some. I'll definitely be back the next time we're in the area. The staff was so nice and welcoming and the food was delicious. Thanks Eggrolly for a great snack on our ride home!! read more

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Food wasn't good. Not sure what is special about the dine in menu and/or drinks. Maybe i ordered the wrong item, but it wasn't good.

Great food selection for carryout. Beef pares was very tender and a bit sweet of you're not familiar with it. Crispy pork and grilled chicken with adobo sauce (they didn't have the traditional chicken adobo that day) were good. I liked the bihon too and the star of the show was the pork egg rolls which were absolutely delicious and crispy which You order by count of 5. Carryout was all ready to go when I picked up. read more

Came here on a whim for dinner and was NOT disappointed!! The pork chops and pork skewers were tender and flavorful. The rice and veggies were Filipino style and paired well with the meats. The chef was really nice and served me well! read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Pork Chops and Pork skewers - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

Nice presentation, DELICIOUS eggrolls (5), friendly service and baked goods look delicious (have not tried). The menu in the restaurant is confusing on the monitors and their paper menu. I think it needs to be simplified. Beef caldereta is a classic Filipino dish. Eggrolly states they are Asian fusion. I unfortunately think they flop on "fusion" cuisine. My take is that they need to stay true to Filipino dishes. I did not like the flavor of the Caldereta. It included shredded (not quality) cheddar cheese on top and chopped mini sweet peppers. I don't believe that these flavors complimented one another at all. The pork lechon was cooked well but was topped with Parmesan cheese. Again, another failed attempt at "fusion" flavors. It took away of what could have been delicious. read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Beef Caldereta A la Carte - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

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Family owned businesses are my favorite type of businesses to visit in every city. This restaurant, by far, stood out! The fiancé and I were literally just cruising around the city when I saw the sign outside this restaurant and was like "omg so kawaiiiiiii" , so the fiancé was forced to stop and try it with me. Life of a Yelp Elite? Am I right? The minute I walked through the door, it didn't take long to realize that I wanted to try almost every single thing they offered on their menu or what was beautifully displayed inside the restaurant. Unfortunately, due to boomers and inflation, us millennials can only have so much. (I'm just kidding) We ended up getting the vegetable and beef egg rolls (they start with 10 each but because we wanted to try a bunch of different menu items, the owner was kind enough to let us purchase 5 of each flavor instead of 10) Crunchy mouthwatering filling and crispy wrapping - perfect! The fiancé ordered the Chicken Curry as his main and I ordered the vegetable egg noodles. The curry was great but could use a bit more spice and the egg noodles were saucy and delicious. We also ordered a drink and got a bunch of other treats and desserts from the displays inside the restaurant. Speaking of inside, the restaurant is decorated beautifully! Highly highly recommend this place. Till next time! read more

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It's a nice Filipino place in the burbs. The table we chose could have been a bit cleaner as it was a tad sticky. The eggrolls are really good (which they should be since the place has egg roll in it's name.). I had an issue with the other food I ordered ( two portions of chicken adobo, beef kaldereta, and chicken teriyaki was not even lukewarm, and more on the cold side. Dylan, to his credit, took it back immediately and we were prepared fresher dishes. The flavor was very good but I wish it just came out hot the first time. The kitchen staff gave us free desert for the inconvenience and it was really good! The chocolate was a little much but the flavor was there. All in all I'd give this place another chance, I'm sure it was just a one off. read more

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Crunchy greasy spring roll-like egg rolls and a cookies n crème watered based smoothie, (which was not a milkshake) and a fried tofu bao with hoisin sauce and jalapeños. I went with a friend but she did not want anything besides a smoothie/milkshake and it did not taste like anything she envisioned. I definitely appreciated the service and speediness of my food. I wish there was more good I could speak on this place but I did not care for the steamed bao, "smoothie" shake but I found those egg rolls to be delightful. I wish they placed them on a bed of paper towels or something so they were not that greasy. The atmosphere was pretty cool, chill vibes, not too much going on. I'd come back during passing but would not go out of my way. I do like the egg rolls but everything else could stay the same but just didn't agree with my taste buds. Sincerely, The ovo-vegetarian read more

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Love that a new Filipino inspired restaurant is in Morton Grove. Not a bad place to stop if you're new to Filipino food or have a craving. I'd say the eggrolls are probably the #1 attraction and the sweets selection next. So good and the cheese sauce was unexpectedly good. Sans rival was also amazing. Kind of wonder if they cater and do custom cakes. We need a new ube cake shop They have a lot of good Filipino entrees like chicken adobo, beef steak, bbq sticks and Pancit that are distinctly Filipino staples. And other noodle soups and dishes that round out the menu. Either way if you're ordering an entree you will have to get a side of Eggrolls because they're delicious. If you're going to get moms home cooking, just know everyone's moms are different. The chicken adobo was different to what I usually have but again it was good. Beefsteak and the pork bbq stick was bomb tho . Only dings: after ordering they said 25 mins. And I was thinking that's more than I had expected for counter service. There wasn't anyone else there and I can't imagine each order takes that long. It was 1130 when we went so I wonder what a lunch rush is like. So you probably can't go for a quick lunch and expect your food in 5 mins. Other thing is just some more transparency around the menu. I didn't see I was going to get $2.00 added to my bill for a specific entree item when what I ordered was a 2 entree special. The gentleman behind the counter was attentive to us and our table as we ate in. I only wish we didn't have to tip at the register and could have after eating otherwise I'd give the kid more. Great spot! read more

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Good Filipino food but very very slow service . I think we waited 30 minutes for the food for myself and my mom . They gave a complimentary dessert but it was way too sweet but still appreciated. read more

**3.5 stars** Hubby and I were too lazy to cook and had no idea what to eat so we decided to scroll through Yelp and happened across Eggrolly and Sweets Cafe. We split twenty mixed eggrolls (chicken, beef, pork, and veggie). I had the beef noodle soup and hubby had the palabok noodles. The beef noodle soup was on the smaller side so I was still hungry after polishing it off. The flavor was good but I was surprised that the soup itself was slightly sweet. The eggrolls were good but I think the beef eggrolls were the clear winner. The pork was okay and I wasn't a fan of the veggie eggrolls. By the luck of the draw I didn't get any chicken eggrolls in my half but better luck next time. Hubby liked his palabok noodles except for the oil that it was bathing in. The description was noodles with shrimp and pork gravy so he was expecting something with more of a gravy consistency. For dessert we had a slice of ube cake which had great ube flavor but I found it to be sweeter than I could handle. read more

If you want delicious Filipino food this is the spot. Extremely clean restaurant with great service and delicious food. The owners were so warm and friendly. This will definitely be my go to spot. My husband and I devoured these egg rolls in a matter of minutes. I know what I'm taking to the Super Bowl party. These will definitely be a hit!! read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Chicken Jalapeno Eggrolls (10 pcs) Beef Eggrolls and pork eggrolls - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

Great spot if you want fast, to-go Filipino food if you don't feel like driving all the way to Seafood City and waiting in those long lines. Highly recommend the beef kaldereta, pork bbq, and beef steak. Their eggrolls are decent. They're not the worst, but they're also not "omg wow, these are the best eggrolls ever. The 2 entree meal is priced at $9.95 and you get a good amount of food for that price. I do want to mention that the staff gave me superb customer service. I ordered from Uber and my Uber driver dropped off the wrong order. I called Eggrolly and let them know about the mix-up and they were kind enough to have one of THEIR staff members drop off my order since I live around the area. I'm only rating it 4 stars just because I wish there was more options for entrees. Who knows? Maybe in the future. read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Beef Caldereta and Pork BBQ - 2 Entree Meal - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

This place just opened on Easter of 2021. I'm going to give them 4 stars for our first experience, but there is definitely potential for them to earn that 5th star. Upon entry, feel free to scan the QR code to pull up the menu on your smartphone. If you miss it or choose not to, walk up to the counter to your left and look at the paper menu or the menu boards behind the counter. The TVs in the lobby cycle photos of their dishes. Definitely lots of Filipino dishes, some Chinese dishes, some western twists (namely cheese sauce). Truly fusion. I believe for dine in, you order and pay at the counter, then they will bring it to your table. We did carry out, so we waited at the cafe tables near the front window. Either way, make your way to the bakery counter towards the back/center of the dining room while waiting for your food. The case was full of Piaya (flatbread?), Ensaymada / Brioche buns of all different flavors (cheese, Nutella, ube, cinnamon, etc.), cookies, cakes, etc. We picked a couple of items and paid for them up front. Our drink came out first. TAJOS Drink - Sago-Gulaman / Tapioca Jello Sugar Cane. Cool and sweet. Refreshing. Wish the jello was cut smaller to fit through the boba straw. They did provide a long spoon for the jello. While waiting, we were given a couple of beef eggrolls with cheesy sauce to sample. Hot, crispy, and flavorful. The cheese was a nice, unexpected complement. A few minutes later, we were heading home with the rest of our order: Pork eggrolls (excellent), vegetable eggrolls (very good), and the 2 entree meal with bbq pork skewer (excellent), beef caldareta (needed to cook a few more minutes to tenderize the meat and potatoes), pancit bihon (good), and 2 pork eggrolls. This meal deal was a great value as well. We also ordered 2 soups: Beef Stew Noodle Soup and Chicken Mami (Noodle Soup). Both soups had the broth packaged separately from the noodles/meat/veggies. Flavorful, but could have used more salt in the broth. Overall, a very satisfying lunch for 5. We are looking forward to returning to try their fresh lumpia (spring rolls), chicken adobo, and pancit palabok (noodles with shrimp and pork gravy). read more

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If you're in the Morton Grove area and craving Filipino food, stop by Eggrolly for a quick bite. It's conveniently located in a strip mall so there's free parking. The interior is clean and the tables are spaced apart to allow for social distancing. There are two different counters for ordering which can be a little confusing for first timers. One counter is for their bakery section and the other is for food orders. I ordered the take-out lunch special which is served daily between 11:30am to 4:00pm. I got the chicken adobo which came with white rice, two veggie eggrolls and a fountain drink. I also ordered 10 pork eggrolls, and since it was sweltering hot outside, decided to get their halo-halo bowl as well. For those who are not familiar with halo-halo, it's a famous Filipino dessert made of shaved ice, ube, a variety of fruits, jelly and other ingredients mixed together. The chicken adobo was okay, but not great. The flavor was a little bland so I probably would not order it again. The pork eggrolls however were crunchy on the outside and yummy goodness in the inside! But my ultimate favorite was their halo-halo. I love the strong ube flavor and the ingredients. The frosted corn flakes was a nice touch for added taste and texture. Overall, I'd definitely return for their eggrolls and halo-halo. read more

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Stopped in on a whim and will definitely be back. Loved everything we got - the lumpia (mixed), bulgogi bao, pork skewers, crab lumpia, and a coconut smoothie. While we were deciding what to eat the server gave us a taste of the chicken jalapeño lumpia. So so good. They also have a bakery but we didn't want sweets then. Definitely going to dine in next time! read more

Hidden gem!!! What a pleasant surprise! I've been driving by here for a year curious as can be and finally decided today that we would give it a try for lunch. The food was fantastic! Not only did the chef ask questions as to how we would like everything prepared but the service and presentation was phenomenal! Not something you expect to find at a order at the counter storefront. There was plenty of comfortable seating, great music and very clean. We will definitely be back. We had the chicken egg rolls, garlic BBQ chicken and BBQ pork buns...superb! read more

This was my first time here and wasn't overly impressed. I tried one of their lunch specials, the Chicken Teriyaki and thought the chicken was decent quality and the dish had a good flavor. You had a choice of white or dark meat, it was served with white rice. I worked in an Egg Roll mall store that sold a couple hundred of them per day. They were made with bean sprouts (Chinese). Later I was introduced to egg rolls made with glass noodles (Thai). The mini vegetable egg rolls here were made with cabbage and shockingly there was NO dipping sauce. I didn't like the taste or texture of the vegetable egg rolls. Not sure if I caught them on a slow day, but there were few pastries and they didn't look that appetizing. The space they have is very nice and there is plenty of parking. I may give them another try since the main course was good. The pork egg rolls looked promising, I may try.those next. read more

Highly recommend the hot chocolate! I am a chocolate-holic and their hot chocolate with marshmallows is soooooo good I had to have every last drop!! Would gladly come back just to order that again and again. Treat your friends and family ... read more

Kapwa Bakery & Cafe - Hot Chocolate - Bakeries Near Me - Niles, Illinois

Wife and I were tired of the limited options in the Skokie/Morton Grove area and discovered Eggrolly Cafe one night and decided to give it a shot. The business has only been around for ~6 months but I still was asking myself how I hadn't been here by now - I imagine many others who pass by it regularly would say the same. Alex, the front counter attendant, was a very sweet, compassionate, and energetic person. He was so thoughtful to ask how everything was, he wanted our honest feedback instead of PC nice comments, and if anything was to our displeasure he and the staff were ready to resolve the issue - this kind of customer service is impossible to find these days! We were provided trusted suggestions that worked out amazingly. We tried the jalapeno eggrolls (very good), orange chicken (good), garlic butter shrimp (amazing), taro bubble tea smoothie (good), chicken and shrimp rice stick (average), and ensaymada brioche bun dessert (amazing). The place is pretty big and open seating but even though the seats look like McDonalds colors it is not fast food - its good food. Bao buns can take around 20 minutes to make and other food items may take 10-15 min. Be patient and you will be rewarded. I don't enjoy tipping unless the staff goes above and beyond to make sure the guest has a great experience and these folks made me want to tip on top of what I already gave. Will be coming back here regularly to try some of the mouth-watering cupcakes and more of the different eggrolls and other hot foods. If you haven't already stopped in make sure you give it try and if you have already come here then enjoy the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. visits! read more