Avoid this place at all cost! And I mean cost literally. My son and I went here a few years ago and had a good experience so I figured it would be a great place for my girlfriend and I to go. Not so much. Let's start with the room. When you pay $200 for the king jacuzzi balcony Suite you would hope that the bathroom wouldn't smell like urine. Hope being the operative word there. Then it was off to the restaurant for dinner... This is where the real fun begins! We should have taken notice when two people left before even getting served because they had been waiting so long. After about 15 minutes somebody finally came up and asked us if we've been helped yet. Nope. We'd like a couple of these $12 drinks. Although I don't remember saying that I'd like to wait 10 minutes for them and for them not to have any ice, I must have because that's the way they came. Skip ahead about 20 minutes and here comes dinner. Luckily we were entertained during our wait by the people at two other tables that were complaining about their food. I'm still trying to remain optimistic at this point. My girlfriend ordered the lobster tail. Which, I will admit, was cooked very well. However, after she finished her plate I asked, did you get your soup? That's when we realize that she didn't get her soup. We explain that to the waiter and at this point asked that it just be deducted off of our meal because we didn't want it. He said he would see what he could do. They took $4 off the bill. Gee... Thanks. I had the elk tacos. As someone who grew up hunting and fishing in southern Oregon I know what elk taste like, or rather, is supposed to taste like. I almost forgot, the menu board when you walked in said that the elk tacos were the special for $15. Upon further inspection I noticed that the elk Tacos on the regular menu were also $15. I'm not sure how that constitutes a special. It was elk meat, pico de gallo, cabbage, and jalapeno sauce on a soft corn tortilla. They forgot the pico de gallo... And the cabbage... And, you guessed it... The jalapeno sauce. But at least it was lukewarm and not hot so I didn't burn my tongue! Since we had seen other tables complain to a woman who was in some sort of leadership role in the restaurant and not get a very good response I decided to take my concerns to the front desk and directly to the hotel manager. I expressed my concerns with our meal to him and asked him what he felt was fair to do with our bill. Read a couple of other reviews on here regarding this man and you can come to your own conclusion as to what his reaction was. To say that he wasn't very friendly would be the biggest understatement of the year. I don't think he graduated from hotel management class. After being berated by him I decided that I would just take the check and pay it. He said, yes you will pay it! So I did. I did not leave a tip on the receipt but I did go directly to our waitress and handed her a tip. I told her that I knew it wasn't her fault and that she needs to get out of there because she's working for horrible people. The look on her face clearly conveyed that she was very frustrated and had probably dealt with numerous complaints. In closing, we strongly encourage anyone considering going to this hotel to either stay or eat, to just keep driving. read more

room is disgusting really awful there was bed bugs and mold everywhere there was even people doing the dirty right next door and we could here it person up at the front desk didn't give us our money back don't recommend read more

Update: they never refunded me for their fraudulent charges. Amex ultimately credited the account. PLEASE DO NOT STAY HERE

Stayed here twice now due to business (a whole week every time)and because, as other people have said, Crescent City is such a small place, this is probably on of the best places to stay in the area the others hotels are run down and shady looking. The view is beautiful however it could be better if the owners kept up the surroundings; It's full of weeds. The owners are a Vietnamese family and they seem very laid back that their workers are unprofessional and they sit in the lobby listening just hanging out but not addressing. Both times I've been here I've used the one computer in the business center where they have a printer; comes in handy butI could hear the cook and whomever was back there cursing, talking crap about other people, yelling, and being so loud it was uncomfortable. It's cool that you can have some fun at work but the owner kept opening the door to the kitchen and it just kept getting louder. This is the kitchen that is also opened to the restaurant so anyone trying to have a nice dinner would be subject to this uncomfortable environment. The owner never said a thing. 4 letter words kept flying around as if it was ok to do it in from of customers. I guess they don't have standard on customer service. Their restaurant has a great view, and they offer free breakfast which is a great thing when I have to get to the business early in the morning. They have more of a continental breakfasts and waffles; can't go wrong. However I wouldn't recommend eating the kitchen food (that's being prepared). I gave it a second chance to be fair but there was no change from the first time. Anything that takes oil will be drenched and soggy (gross and it seems that most of their menu is like this. I've tried fish sandwich and fries, also chicken Parmesan and pasta) As I was paying at the bar the second time this server and the front desk girl kept talking about some girl and her flaws, I was just thinking to myself, you do realize a customer is in front, I didn't want to hear all their drama. To be fair, the server was super nice while serving me but as soon as the other girl came it was gossip like no other. I'm big on customer service and this is a big no no in my book. They have a bar and a lot of wine. First time around it took about 10 min to get my wine of glass when there was one other couple there and the bartender was also working the front desk. Kinda annoying but I had already ordered my pasta (first time I was there). I'd rather go and buy a bottle at Safeway and serve it to myself. There are several food places around that I would rather eat than their restaurant; although they offer 10% for guest but even with that I won't eat at their restaurant anymore. The rooms are ok, nothing special, you do get a nice view of the coast and the light house which seems to be a tourist attraction. read more

If it were possible to give this place zero stars, I would. I called this morning from Mendocino and was told they had one room left. I took it, giving them my credit card. We arrived 1/2 hour ago, checked it, unpacked the car, and headed toward the room. Only to have the check-in clerk run after us saying a mistake had been made and someone else was in the room. They had no other rooms to put us in, they said. According to Booking.com, they rented the last available room 4 hours ago -- about 6 hours after they'd told us we had the last room! Needless to say we'll never consider staying with them again. And I'd recommend the same to anyone else thinking of staying in Crescent City, CA! read more

SAVE YOUR MONEY AND GO ELSEWHERE!!!!!!!! I was shocked a place this bad can even be given the right to be open. Our first night the pool was so cloudy and green that the second night it was closed due to use of chemicals. We went in the following morning after use of said chemicals and it was still cloudy and VERY smelly and unhealthy looking! We were moved the first night due to only 2 of the 6 Jacuzzi jets in our tub working but the new room had only one more working then the first. We accidentally dropped our keys in the elevator shaft and were told it would be an $800 charge to retrieve them because they have no basement access. I called the owner/manager on her cell to try to ask for more information about this and she denied she even worked at the business and first said I had the wrong number then told me she was NOT who I KNEW SHE was, Very rude and NOOOO customer service AT ALL!!!! I agree with the reviewer who said public health needs to be called. Third floor had what appeared to be vomit upon exiting the elevator! Carpets are OLD and stained and smell bad! THIS IS A BED BUS PARADISE!!! read more

This place was not what it was advertised as. It is definitely not worth the price. There is maintenance that has been deferred or done poorly. I would not recommend this place to anyone! Electrical outlets that don't work and ants all over the bathroom. read more

The only positive thing about this hotel is the view and location. You can walk to the lighthouse and along the beach easily. Hence the one star... But the hotel itself is awful.The internet did not work at all even with the nine networks they let you choose from, the tv connection did not work either, the ac unit was old and loud and kept my husband and I up all night with its rattling, there was water damage in the hallways, the pool water was yellow, the fitness room had a hole in the ceiling, there were holes in the sheets, and to top it all off the front desk staff was extremely rude and gave the impression that they couldn't be bothered by anything... News flash ladies, you're in the service industry! Slap on a smile, attempt to be accommodating to your guests who spent over $100 a night to stay in your rundown dump of a hotel and try to look more professional while doing it. the This place is in need of a major renovation both of the property and it's staff. It was a waste of money even with the views. Crescent city is a small area and the coast and lighthouse are five minutes away from any inland hotel. I'd suggest looking into one of those. read more

Very unprofessional front desk staff. Made a mistake on my reservation and won't refund. Skip this place!

The hotel was not very clean and everything was a bit shoddy. It felt like the management was looking for every way they could to save a buck. read more

We stayed here last night and were most surprised on just how nice it was. We had read some of the reviews after we made our reservations and were somewhat concerned but we cannot understand the basis of some of those less than top quality reviews. The hotel was extremely well kept up, modern and the personnel greeted us with gusto. They were most helpful in providing us some great ideas and directions on visiting some out of the way places to the "old growth" redwoods which was a big help the next day. Our room was very very clean, big and nice to relax in. Our breakfast was delicious...great waffles, all the sausages you could want (also very tasty), fruit, juices, coffee and more. A great value. The room was also a great value and the rate was "as advertised". Check in and out was flawless and quick and parking was right in front. The view of the ocean was just stunning...you could see the entire coast line from our room window that also had a great balcony that you could sit outside and enjoy the coastline. My wife and I were most pleased with EVERYTHING!! None better. You will NOT be disappointed in anyway when you stay at this hotel!! Ralph and Cathy read more

If you want to place close to the water this hotel will do fine. But there are some problems, while the manager - owner was friendly and helpful the front-desk staff could use a seminar on friendliness, Wi-Fi is relatively useless, some issues with cleanliness. If you want an ocean view book the second floor or third floor. Despite these comments this hotel will not get in the way of your having a wonderful stay in Crescent city read more

Our story is a troubling one, and sadly true.We booked a King Suite with a Jacuzzi tub for $200 per night in August 2019. This is their best room. I have learned from years of travel to check the bed out before taking all the luggage up to a room with a poor mattress.The mattress was swayed and ready for retirement and would have killed our backs. I returned to the front desk and kindly expressed by concern and requested another room to view. They let me see a 2 bed room with no tub, a basic bathroom set up . The mattresses were very hard but a better risk than the king. The kind girls at the desk told me it was a + $30 up-charge. I kindly said this cannot be the case with a room of lesser amenities. I said I would talk with management the next morning. I proceeded to the room. The door knocked and both of the young ladies from the desk said I needed to agree to the up charge and s"sign here" per the manager who was not on site. They proceeded to say the GM was upset she was called on the weekend to deal with this.Interesting HR behavior. Notable the 2 young ladies did not even know her last name! Further interesting to me. We slept on the hard mattress and were happy to get out the next day. Other notables: Breakfast is cut off at 9 am sharp! The elevator to the rooms was in awful cleaning condition , A good judge of what followed as the room that was not very clean as well.I thought of writing to the GM about the $30 up charge and the unfairness of it, but decided to share the truth with the world instead as you make a hotel choice in this city. There are several nice looking hotels we passed. Mike B read more

This place is the dirtiest hotel I have ever been to in this country. There is literally dirt every where you look. Every single corner has little piles of dirt in them. Our room had a giant puddle of water right outside the door. On first getting into our room my dog immediately found the leftover food that was all over the floor under the table and started eating it. I sat down on one of the beds and found a white cold squishy lump that I picked up trying to figure out what it was until I found the eggshells next to it and realized it was hard boiled egg on the bed. The chair in the room had stains all over it. At one point I spilled a little water on the floor just outside the bathroom door and used the bathmat to wipe it up and the bathmat was actually black with dirt afterwards. The floor was so dirty you can actually feel it under your feet and its not even carpeted. At one point I moved the footstool next to the chair a tiny bit and the floor underneath was just covered in dirt. They are so lazy they did not even bother to take the giant stickers with the installation instructions off the sliding glass door(which was also filthy) to the balcony off. The plastic chairs on the balcony are so badly decayed that if you sit in one you will be covered in grey dust after. There are no blankets on the beds just a tiny sheet that starts half way down the bed and then the unwashed egg bedspread. We actually brought our camping blankets out of the car and used them rather than sleep with the dirty bedding. The worst part is they made us pay $50 extra to bring my super clean little dog into their filthy room for one night and the room wasn't even carpeted, I have no idea how she could have made it dirtier! The view from this place is absolutely gorgeous but its so filthy it just ruins it. Its a shame that what could be such a beautiful property is just run into the ground by these owners. read more

Hotel itself was a standard to good hotel...clean, friendly, and good layout. The appeal of this place is the view...amazing! Every room has a perfect view of the Pacific, as the hotel is literally on a short cliff overlooking the ocean. Rooms were good size, clean, and had everything you need. Would stay her again next time I am in the area! read more

This hotel falsely advertises their rooms. Booked a room that was described as "oceanfront" with a "full ocean view." The view was mostly a parking lot and buildings with a slice of ocean view. I rarely complain or give negative reviews, but this is egregious false advertising. When I asked if I could just cancel the room because of how disappointing the view was, they said no. The only option they gave me was to pay more for a room that had an actual full ocean view. This hotel was such a disappointment. read more

We booked a single king room for a special rate on hotels.com. We paid extra for an ocean "view" and upon checking in, our room (which also didn't appear as nice as the online photos) overlooked a parking lot and the roofs of buildings next door. We assumed it would be an easy fix, especially with our expectation of the views/photos promised in our booking. We were told that for an extra fee we could receive a nice room with a better view. After requesting to speak to the manager we were told he was too busy to speak to us and then the guy at the front desk encouraged us to find another hotel if we weren't happy. When the manager reluctantly came out to speak to us he was arrogant, condescending, and laughed at the "special rate" we paid and told us to "look up the legal definition of a California coastal view." We were appalled by his rudeness and being 8 months pregnant with a toddler in tow and I couldn't believe he told us to move on or pay more for what we were ptomised. We ended the conversation and decided to find another hotel. We were so disappointed. It was a part of our coastal road trip we were really looking forward to - a quaint and local seaside hotel in a seemingly great location. In reality it was lacking in too many ways, mostly with the terrible service, and outdated and unclean appearance. Truly the worst customer service I've experienced traveling. We decided it was better to move on and pay a little more elsewhere than to give the owner a dime. Luckily there was availability down the road at Best Western where the rooms were clean, up to date, the service was friendly, and the breakfast was complimentary hot and satisfying. So happy we did NOT stay at the Oceanfront Lodge. read more

We booked a single king room for 109 on hotels.com. We paid extra for an ocean "view" and upon checking in, our room didn't have a view other than the parking lot. We went back down to the front desk to ask for a different room and the kid behind the counter got out a calculator and said it'd be $43 dollars more. We explained that we just want what our booking promised us and he offered to go out of his way to knock $10 off. We asked to speak to the manager, he said, he's really busy and told us he'd refund our booking so we could go elsewhere. We had to ask 5 times before he finally went back and came out with the manager. The manager looked at our booking and laughed and said "for a hundred dollars what did you expect" and told us he wouldn't switch our room and would be happy to give us our money back. At this point my 7 month pregnant wife and 2 year old were losing patience and we left. Truly some of the worst customer service I've experienced traveling. The hotel was very disappointing cosmetically and not clean either. Keep looking.... read more

This hotel has a great ocean view but the hotel itself needs upgrades. The bed needs new mattress . The bed was so uncomfortable because the mattress is worn out. The bathroom is dirty and needed cleaning. The breakfast was instant oatmeal and some pastries. As someone had previously posted, this hotel could have potential if it were kept up. I would not recommend this hotel. read more

DON'T STAY HERE. They are thieves and will steal your credit card number. They have done it to me and my co-workers several times after we gave them several chances. We have contacted the Crescent City police who basically say oh well, sorry about your luck. If you read other reviews on here and TripAdvisor.com, you will see they run a SCAM of a business, over charging, promising refunds then never refunding, running your card days later for unauthorized charges... Its all an inside job, from the owners to their kids who work for them. You will regret staying here. read more

Very displeased with the hotel restaurant staff & I guess what they call management. Charged me for something I wasn't asking for, then over charged me for what I wasn't asking for, gave me something that wasn't either things, then we're completely rude when I demanded a refund for the disgusting item they gave me. $11.50 for old stinky cabbage & cheese?!?! Refunded me money but didn't refund the tax. I am a long time business owner myself & would die if my staff treated someone like they do. We won't be staying here again. The owners need to look at they're management & yelp! read more

This place is no longer the quality hotel it was when it was the Hampton Inn. We reserved two suites. Upon arrival they wanted 25% more than we were quoted when we made reservations 2 mos earlier. After being treated as if we were imbeciles, they agreed to honor the quote. We found out that wasn't the truth because we saw the larger figures when we got our credit card bills. This "upcharging" happened to two other couples during our stay. The carpet along the baseboards was white with dust and dirt. The hall trash cans were full most of the time. There were partiers that disturbed the entire floor on Saturday night yelling, drinking and vomiting off the balconies. Numerous calls to the front desk resulted in no action. The breakfast sausage literally rivaled my dog''s treats. The restaurant had the same "Dinner Special for 3 days". That spells leftovers to me. The pool was murky. When I saw a toddler in a diaper n the pool and hot tub I understood. I explained this to the desk clerk and she told me they probably wouldn't clean it that day. This is a great location, a nice building but the "slumlord" owner should be ashamed of what he's doing in the name of making a buck. I will camp in Crescent City before I stay there again. read more

Terrible service. No one at desk, no one answers the phone. Maybe only one person works there and they are always on a smoke break!,!!!,!!

My co-worker told me that I should stay at this hotel on my business trip to Crescent City. I was surprised to realize how close this hotel was to the ocean. It is obvious that it has the best location in the area. It was away from the city traffice and the only sound that I could hear was that of the ocean waves that were very soothing and relaxing. The bed was very comfy and I slept well. The room was very spacious and clean. Free breakfast offers plenty of food and fruits. I will bring my husband and children to Crescent City for vacation and stay in this hotel. read more

So we stayed In the honeymoon suite our first night and it was really nice it smelled clean and our balcony had an excellent view of the lighthouse and ocean. Owner was really nice at check in and we didn't really explore the hotel any further because we had everything we needed in our room, but our coffee pot didn't work. We both slept very comfortably, most likely because we were exhausted from driving for 12 hours. The following day, we had driven down the 101 were headed back up and decided that we would stay another night. The honeymoon suite was booked this time so we got a suite with two queens on the second floor. Room was ok. View was still very good. There were ants in the bathroom but it wasn't so many that it was gross or unmanageable. I noticed water damage in the ceiling but it still wasn't enough to deter me. So here comes the fun part. We ate dinner at the restaurant and the waitress was great and even googled how to make my drink, but the food was greasy and not very good. Hubby had fish and chips and couldn't finish them, and I had the Asian chicken salad which didn't have almonds or mandarin oranges and had cheap other ingredients and tasted gross. We were tired from driving and decided to try the hot tub since we had no jacuzzi in our room this time.... big mistake. There were no towels in the pool room so while I went to grab some, my hubby jumped in the hot tub. The jets didn't work, and I came back to seeing a horrified look on his face. I asked him what was wrong and he simply said "it smells like piss" as I was getting in. I supposed it didn't register for me how serious he was so I said "then why did you get in?" as I was sitting down. Once submerged, I realized that it completely smelled like acidic urine. We say there in a stunned silence for a moment realizing the water was green and looked as though numerous alka seltzers had been dropped in there as the water was fizzy. We hoped out and ran for the shower regretting the moment we most likely caught hepatitis from a hot tub. People are disgusting. I don't know when that tub was last cleaned. So in summary, decent room and view, nasty pool and hot tub. read more

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Friendly staff but the rooms could definitely use some updating for the price we paid. Rooms were clean but outdated and the breakfast was unappealing. I would give them another try bit would not eat at the restaurant. read more

This place was such a disappointment and completely disgusting; from ocean view windows in our "suite" being filthy, to no screen door for the sliding glass door, to tub dirty with mold on the soap dish, to food in the microwave and disgusting rugs in the room as well as in the hotel. Absolutely do not recommend - gross to say the least and WAY over priced - they called our room a suite - there was nothing suite like about it. Curtains were dirty with literal mold or something on them - pictures were filthy, etc. etc. bed was very uncomfortable. I just can't say how bad this hotel was. The pool was dirty, the elevator was dirty, the free breakfast was gross (what was that orange drink??) when we complained about the lack of cleanliness, dirt, etc. the front desk person could have cared less. They must not get ANY repeat business. STAY AWAY!!! read more

The hotel is in desperate need of a deep cleaning and a renovation. The carpets were dated and FILTHY with stains and rips everywhere, the sheets at the end of the bed had dog hair on them and when we lifted up the comforter we found stains on the sheets. EW! The wall-mounted lights next to the bed had a layer of dust, there were BROWN STAINS on the wall next to the toilet paper, basically everything was very poorly maintained. Because it was a holiday weekend all the other hotels were booked so we stayed, slept in full clothing and put t-shirts over the pillows as mock pillowcases, and left as quickly as possible in the morning. And this was the most expensive hotel we stayed in during our roadtrip. I would never recommend this hotel to anyone. read more

My nightmare. We got the last room in town while passing through and in retrospect we would've slept better in our car. The $200 room smelled horrible the minute we opened the door. As if we were walking into the attic of an abandoned house. We then killed 2 spiders within 5 minutes of being there. The icing on the cake was a bandage from the previous guest sitting on my nightstand. My husband and I slept fully clothed and got out of there asap the next morning. Disgusting. read more

Okay for it's location and outside appearance the place looks decent. Not! The room we stayed in smelled of mildew and there were bugs crawling around the bathroom floor. The furniture was old and mismatched and the mattress was worn out. Yes there is a view but they charge you for it. A motel 6 would have been far better. read more

OMG!!!! Where should I begin how awful this place is... I walked in to a room, it was not only dirty, dingy and moldy smell, just disgusting. Bed was so sunken in, bed cover is dirty that my skin felt that bugs were crawling. I had to walk right out and cancelled my reservation. Found a different lodge so much cleaner and nice. Please don't stay this horrible place. read more

Driving down 101 looking a place to stay w/Ocean Front, stopped by a couple other hotels that didn't have any vacancy. Then stumbled upon Ocean Front. Chao at the front desk was very helpful and friendly. Room was very clean and tidy. If your looking off a clean affordable room Ocean Front is a great place to stop off. read more

Customer service was non-existent along with Wi-Fi Service. When I walked in The man with blue fingernail polish let me wait 5 to 10 minutes while he talked on the cell phone without acknowledging my presence. The manager popped his head out when I mentioned the lack of attention he told me he was on the phone. No kidding! I could see that for myself. We had a deluxe suite and the futon couch had a broken frame and the cushion hung out and was extremely uncomfortable to sit on. I had to get up at 1:30 and work till 3:30 in the morning to do my work as the Wi-Fi was completely useless. Confirmed by the staff and other guests. The breakfast presentation was dismal at best. We purchased better food at jack-in-the-box upon leaving. The room was a contrast also. An updated nice bathroom with a spa tub connected to a broken down sofa-bed, outdated, worn and stained carpet and dirty windows and screens. The pool area was so humid as it made me feel ill to be in the room. It's too bad as the location is great but for whatever reason the owner has chosen not run it to it's full potential. The rooms need to be modernized, The staff needs training, the breakfast and Wi-Fi need improving and the management needs replacing. Maybe then this would be a great place to stay. read more

The bad reviews don't surprise me. The owner stiffed the sub contractors when the place was built forcing them to accept less for their services. read more

My sister is getting married up in the area and we booked a block of rooms at the Ocean Front lodge for out of town guests. We got a call that the owner has decided to raise rates and not honor our initial reservation price. We were given the option of paying the higher new rate (that was about $60 more per night) or cancelling the reservation. Without hesitation I cancelled the block of rooms on hold. If a hotel owner/operator won't honor rates for reservations who knows what other shady practices are going on. Luckily another hotel (Ocean View Inn & Suites) happily accepted our block of rooms for the wedding and even offered us a special group rate. read more

Wow, no complaints what so ever. Clean, nice, reasonable, great location, great staff. Nice restaurant, free hot breakfast.

Hotel was ok at best.....but at 130-160 a night I was not expecting to sleep on a 15 year old inner spring mattress. the restaurant inside the hotel was well.... They are trying to be a five star place with one star service... They are way over priced and the wait staff was awfull. Our waitress walked passed our table 15 times or more and never removed the empty dishes. All in all if it's just one night the place will work but be prepared to drive somewhere else for dinner.... Also there is no complimentary breakfast. read more

Horrible place. Do yourself a favor and stay anywhere else. Fire alarm in our room went off 5 times the first night due to an expiring battery (why don't they change the batteries all at once in the place?). We had to change rooms at 1 AM and lost 2 hours of sleep. Telephone broken, hair dryer broken, towel rack literally falling off the wall, pink mold in the tub. The garbage can outside was overflowing with garbage - for two days because nobody attended to it. It was awful. read more

This is a great place to stay with great amenities. They have very clean rooms. It has beautiful views and great service. Everyone was very helpful. The food at the restaurant is also very good. I would definitely stay here again. read more

So disgusted and disappointed. This was supposed to be a nice relaxing stay but instead. There were beer bottles and trash behind the night stand trash and God knows what behind the bed. Hair in the shower and jacuzzi tub. The jacuzzi tub did not even work. We asked to be put in a nice room, we were put on the bottom floor room 111 it is a handy cap access room. There was no balcony, no view, an extremely low uncomfortable bed. And what kills me is we paid 50$ more for this room over a standard room. I will never recommend or stay here again. And what was the worst part when I went to the frount desk to complain the young girl at the desk made it seem that it was normal as if she heard this complaint 100 times. I'm so disappointed, but I know the only reason why they are still open is the lack of hotels in this area. The pictures are a lie I promise you will be in disbelief. read more